Do you think better designed/built chasis, cooling design and higher quality TFT are trivial? I certainly do not.
HDD's and dvd drives can be bought aftermarket for a cheap price, they're really a non-factor in an overall system build. What matters is the aforementioned points that you casually dismissed. Also, why are you comparing Asus mail in depot warranty to Dell's NBD? They're not even in the same league.
Of course I'm an AW fan, can you not read?
NBD parts service + on site repair beats mail in warranty service any day. Arguing otherwise just makes you seem foolish.
People are fans of football teams, cars etc. so what's wrong with being a fan of a particular line of computers? I think the M15x/M17x are very well designed machines that are worth the premium. If you don't then that's your prerogative and nobody is forcing you to consider an AW. In fact, you got all bent out of shape and posted multiple replies because I said I'd pick an AW over the G73, so who's really the irrational one here? Seems you are quite defensive over a computer that you haven't even tested yet..or dare I say it, acting fanboyish.
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Nope nothing offical but its the same panel they are using in the Sager 8760 so they might have some more info...
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evensen007,
You made me chuckle here...... just a wee bit, LOL! NICE!
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This is what I've stated in the past but I don't think it applies to the average consumer. Only us NBR geeks. That's why I believe if you compare CPU and GPU options the systems cost the same amount (G73 vs M17x).
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As I stated, I actually WORKED for Dell's NBD. Have you ever actually USED it? You can easily argue that sending a laptop in and letting the manufacturer repair the problem is just as good as having someone from India try to diagnose your problem, send ME the wrong part for the wrong problem, and end up at your house 2 or 3 times.
The only reason I had multiple posts is because people responded to me which in turn required a response.
It looks like you are getting bent out of shape because I disagree with your analysis. I don't have a problem with you being a fanboi for AlienWare, but when you troll the forum of a machine you have no intention of purchasing (for yourself) to knock the quality (of this yet to be released machine) and remind everyone how great AlienWare is, it seems petty and immature. -
How many times has this thread turn into this because of a stupid pre-order.
If we had the system that's what we would be posting. -
Mandrake,
I am just as hardcore of a techie as the next guy, but apparently my value system measures differently. I don't have unlimited money to turn that 1699 AlienWare into a 2300 dollar machine when I just could have bought the G73 and tweaked it to my needs.
Maybe if I had unlimited money like you and Joker, I may be a brand snob too. Unfortunately I work for "the man" and draw a check just like the next schlub, so the G73 is the best value for the money.
Even if I did have unlimited money, I am still a contrarian and hate when people tell me x is better than y. Like I have said before, it's the same reason I would never buy Sony tv's, Bose home audio, and Lucky brand jeans. -
I've used it many times and it worked great.I've had Dell notebooks for a span of >10 years so I have enough experience with them.
Let's analyze my original comment that you got so angry over:
You should take some of your own advice about being an irrational fan
I'm sure this will spur 10 more comments about how I'm crazy for picking a proven line of computers over a product from a company famous for BSOD's and melting GPUs.
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Sadly, Dell's NBD on-site warranty didn't help me too much... Bought a rather high-end notebook from them for my wife, and 4 days later, it completely died. 7beeps at bootup, so they decided to send us an entirely new system.
Shipped the old one back, and after about 3 weeks of waiting, they tell us the replacement order was cancelled due to an invalid configuration. I call and give them heck, but can't get them to expedite the replacement in any way, so it'll be at least 2 more weeks.
So, I cancelled it, bought my wife a Qosmio X505-850, I'm getting a G73, and I think I still have a little money left over from the Dell. At least Dell was quick in issuing a refund.
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Lol, you know I love you Joker. I love sparring with you AlienWare guys, so I look forwards to our exchanges!
You say you have used Dell's NBD service many times? Man, that speaks VOLUMES for the quality of the Dell's and Alienwares!
If you look at the latest reliability poling, Asus places nicely ahead of Dell in customer satisfaction. Who's Asus Gpu melted?
I didn't get angry over your initial comment. I called you crazy!
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i saw this poll in november. it doesn't matter for me
and i didn't claim anything about asus quality! as a far former asus owner i can't say anything bad about it - but i don't compare the value of laptop before it become available with another!
so i haven't any sin about posting in another manufacturer thread because i can say what i think if it doesn't violate forum rules, isn't it? i'm not biassed and i don't say that g73 is crap. lol
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That's right Hazard, Joker did. And I responded. So what's the problem exactly?
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yeah, what's the problem? why we can't chill a little
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Many times over a 10 year span. For example, I had a dead pixel a couple times and Dell gladly sent me a LCD replacement the next day. There was never anything seriously wrong with the machines. Try getting that service with your mail in depot
Who cares about those polls? They're not statistically valid and Dell as a whole sells far more computers than Asus. AW is also a subset of Dell which is what we're discussing here, not some cheap Inspiron--though I bet even those are built better than the G73!
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I think I view the whole thing as a David and Goliath situation. I am going to spend 1550 dollars for a machine that I expect to be pleased with. Other people are saying that I should spend 2000+ for the same parts to be happy. As I explained, I am not a doctor, a lawyer, or a trust fund baby. I don't like "brand names". I want this Asus to punch AlienWare square in the eye with a quality build. I want "the little guy" to be able to get a good deal for once even though he can't "keep up with the Smith's" and their brand new Mercedes Benz.
In a little over a month we should know whether "working schlub" can have just as good of a machine as "money bags". -
Both of you shut up ... Jesus
It's a laptop... Shut up go back to each of your forums and leave it alone....
When they come out I'll test the. And see
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Each of our forums? I am actually BUYING a G73 for myself, so where exactly is "my forum"?
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lol, I never even heard of lucky brand jeans.
unlimited money? I don't think so, I just keep recycling them. That's why I have a system in the NBR marketplace every month. Also why would you call me a "brand snob"? I have both systems on order. I also have a lenovo and Sony at home.
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Doctor Troll: "You are the patient, I AM the Doctor, and my arrogance prevails, so I REFUSE to consider anything you have to say!"
G73 Patient: "SOMEBODY PLEASE, remove this poison from before me, or just shoot me, cause I am dead here anyway!"
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Has there been anymore info on when these will be shipped? Near the beginning someone mentioned end of Jan - beginning of Feb. As much as I love reading forums, 300+ pages of searching would be more than I could handle personally.
I'm interested in getting one of these but I am only in the US until Feb 14 and I wouldn't be able to get it shipped to Brazil for various reasons (going to school down there). -
Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
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Hey Soviet there's our hero! "5870? Bring it!" -
At least the thread is entertaining. Remember what happened in the AW forums when all this side talk started happening right before the release of the M17x? We got a side topic section! yeah! lol
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The G72 is the same as the 8760?
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
The G7x's had ugly LG's and AUO's. Clevo resellers fit the W870CU with a newer unknown model AUO, which I have, or an HSD; both are incredibly stunning.
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The G72 I saw at BB had a low end LG panel.
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The G72 with the 1920x1080 screen is the same exact model used in the 8760 as confirmed for me by a reseller ... I am not talking about the Bestbuy model at all here...
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Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
What is the specific model number, Quadzilla?
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LOL!! Nice MS paint skills. Looks like a vampire that had too much weed. -
Hey buddy, that's Paint.net skills not MS Paint!
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So now it's not even end of Jan start of Feb but instead mid to end of Feb? That would suck, means this wouldn't even be an option for me.
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-=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso
[snicker, snicker] Geez!
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Honestly i dont even think i have the Email anymore Soviet as it has been so long...
I inquired about it this when they first announced the G73 and had asked at the time what panels the G72 was using so i was sent a screenshot and model number etc and then told that it was the same exact model as the 8760... -
Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet
That makes me sad.
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-=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso
The Devil? I thought it was 'The Doctor'! I guess things are worse than I thought!
Arggggg!
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Wow, I don't think I should have asked about the AW here. I Just had to catch up on 5 pages of hate-mail. Anywho...thanks for all the info. Now, how about some benchmarks.
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w00t w00t.
Just found a Portuguese reseller for the g73jh, and unlike the other one who was selling the no Blu-Ray version for 1800€, this one is selling the Blu-Ray version for 1600€
It's already available on its website, and you can already buy it (although I'm having some troubles sending it to the cart with Firefox, tried with chrome and it allows me to checkout - doesn't state it's a pre order).
I'll give him a call tomorrow to see if he can upgrade to the 820qm, and if I can visit its wharehouse on thursday
(maybe even to pick it up).
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I also wanted to the screen brightness. any idea about NITS??
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Just googled 'nits'...
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I do not believe this tech spec has officially been stated by Asus. As soon as it is, it will be posted.
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lol....make sure you put "LCD" in front of it.
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Joker, just to be fair, it's the current gen Dellienware machines that I would consider decent. The pure AW lines were, aside from the earlier M17 and M17x, were less than attractive. The M17 could be bought cheaper from other resellers for a while, till AW cut its prices drastically, and while the earlier M17x was decently built, its price was somewhat higher than that of competitors. The M5500/M5550 (Overheat) and earlier M15x (melting GPUs and BSODs sound familiar? Add pathetic build quality to that) were terrible, and while the M9750 was decently built, it was horribly priced for the hardware.
Be glad Dell took over, I know I am.
That said, you're a fan, and you like Dell/AW, by all means go for it.
If you like AW and its Dell supported warranties, by all means, go with the M15X currently on offer, it's a decent deal on the M15X.
I wouldn't say Asus is famous for BSOD issues, I can think of one model off the top of my head for which that might be considered true, the G51J (still unknown cause, I imagine?), it is however, known for laptops that do run warmer than others, just look at the Asus G1 series from a year or two ago. That said, Asus also provided most users with either G50 or motherboard replacements, which not all companies would have done.
Edit: Apparently the w90vp suffered from WSODs.
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The w90 had wsod not blue
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I'll make a note. lol -
google what "ASUS G73JH-A1 Nits"?? there is nothing on the google. otherwsie I copuld have posted in the forum.
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I said "just googl ed" and not "just googl e"
Besides, I didnt't knew what NITS standed for, so I used the world favourite search engine to find out (see how I avoided saying "googled"?).
I was graced with several pics of "nits", wich in other words means "lice" (I had no clue). -
Lost in translation...
ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5
Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.