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    ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by iaTa, Dec 31, 2009.

  1. DashTheHand

    DashTheHand Notebook Geek

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    Does anyone have any knowledge of the performance boost the i7 Extreme 920XM would give over the i7 720QM? Is it worth an extra 1.1k?
     
  2. mackloon

    mackloon Notebook Consultant

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    IMO not worth it
     
  3. euisungkim

    euisungkim Notebook Deity

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    I would go with SSD drive + 820 with that money.
     
  4. Kamidari

    Kamidari Notebook Geek

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    I opted for the 820 processor... I'm sure on a price/performance level, it's not worth it, but I'm hoping it'll give some additional little kick. I decided against the 920 because of its higher power requirements (55 vs 45 watts). I didn't want to test the cooling of this new design any more than I had to. ;)
     
  5. JCoelho

    JCoelho Notebook Guru

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    Which one? :confused:
     
  6. euisungkim

    euisungkim Notebook Deity

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    getting a 920xm is not worth it for 1.1k.
     
  7. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    the 920xm is only for benchers, the rest of the world does not need it lol
     
  8. mackloon

    mackloon Notebook Consultant

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    agreed

    10chars
     
  9. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    For the vast majority of users' tax brackets it isn't worth it. But for people that want the best, they have to pay for the best.
     
  10. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    Pure speculation!

    As for the 1.1k 920 upgrade, Im taking it just so this will hold its value and usefulness longer, for me to justify spending this much it has to last at least 2.5 to 3 years. I would just get the base model and upgrade myself to save money but that damn warranty sticker freaks me out.

    I hope this doesnt turn out to be a lemon, everytime i spend alot on an item lately its screwed up. I drove a car for 2 years that i bought for $2800 until it was totaled and said screw it and bought a new Landrover, biggest mistake of my life so many flaws I lost so much money. then i paid close to $500 for a Archos Mp3 player that turned out to have so many problems i just want to hurl it against a brick wall so i can move on. so i hope this will not turn out like all my other big ticket items, do you guys think this will have issues?
     
  11. evensen007

    evensen007 Notebook Deity

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    Yes........
     
  12. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    lol that was quick!
     
  13. dune10191

    dune10191 Notebook Evangelist

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    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    Thats cool, I wish the retailers in the US would provide info like that on their websites.
     
  15. evensen007

    evensen007 Notebook Deity

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    No doubt. I'm about to break down and buy a used w90! :p

    Luckily I have my G51J keeping me warm and fuzzy, so I haven't done anything rash yet.
     
  16. euisungkim

    euisungkim Notebook Deity

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    me too.. I can't wait much longer, this is killing me.
    at least you got a g51j, I got a 3year old desktop that can't do anything. :eek:
     
  17. evensen007

    evensen007 Notebook Deity

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    I can't imagine you and mack struggling with your crusty old machines. My g51 plays all my games pretty well; I also have a killer desktop at home. I feel for you guys, but I think we will know something very soon though. Just a hunch.
     
  18. anothergeek

    anothergeek Equivocally Nerdy

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    If you really want a 920xm, buy it on ebay for $600 and sell the 720qm for $250-300....
     
  19. bibblenorn

    bibblenorn Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have been eyeballing this since about New Years. I have finally decided that I will be getting this unless there is some kind of major issue.

    My thoughts:
    The price is GOOD. Which can make up for alot.
    The video card having only the 128-bit bus width (do I have the jargon right?) is a bit of a downer, but depending on where it lands after it is benchmarked, the price still makes up for alot.
    The missing ports (express card, fw, etc.) is a little worrying, but if I think about it, I am not sure I have used any of those in about 4 years anyways.
    I seem to be bouncing back and forth between thinking the case design is really ugly to oddly charming... I think it is the back ledge that is getting to me. Not a deal breaker though. :)

    I am upgrading from a 3 year old Dell Inspirion E1705/9400, with a nvidia Geforce 7800 Go. About 6 months ago, my cooling system shut down, cooking my video card. Dell was good enough to replace the cooling system and the video card as well as the power cable and brick. But the warranty is out now.

    I do want to wait until various aspects have been seen by other users, and I want to hear feedback on how hot it runs before I buy. Also, I have been reading about the problems other ASUS gaming laptops have had. How long should I wait before ordering to see if any deal-breaking negative aspects are discovered?
     
  20. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    Thats what i really want to do but that damn warranty sticker! Im afraid they wont honor any warranty if its off or broke
     
  21. eldeni

    eldeni Notebook Enthusiast

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    bibblenorn,
    i have same questions and worries, especially after reading that topic about g71.. Some problems might show only in 2-3 months, so if it is released in the middle of February, it's better to wait for these 2-3 months, i guess.. But who can do that?? :))
    nothing better for that price seem to be showing up.. Dell, HP, Toshiba don't seem to be promising that much)

    I fell worried too especially cuz if i buy G73 in US, i'm going to take it home, to Russia. Where it might be a huge problem to fix or replace it =\
     
  22. mackloon

    mackloon Notebook Consultant

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    I agree with this...if you are not an idiot, you should be able to keep the warranty in tact.

    I plan on doing this

    -Getting the base model with the DVDRW downgrade
    -updating the Blu-Ray when media and writers are more affordable
    -getting an SSD when the larger sizes come out and I can get a Smaller one for OS and apps on the cheap
    -once the warranty expires...upping the processor to the i7 920 or the best it can handle
    -selling the i7 720 chip
    -loading it up on the cheap with the max ram
     
  23. anothergeek

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    The 920xm is wasted potential anyway ;) I would only deem it "necessary" for Sli/Crossfire rigs.

    I had a QX9300/280M rig, but only GTA4 and L4D saw any noticeable gains, and that was coming from a P9600. In other words, the 720QM is more than adequate for this rig.
     
  24. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    what do you mean? will the sticker come off and be reusable if you work with it or use a hairdryer or something?
     
  25. eltonsl

    eltonsl Notebook Enthusiast

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    No, he is just that good... :rolleyes:
     
  26. mackloon

    mackloon Notebook Consultant

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    bah...i do not feel like scrolling back to find jokers post, however it was stated by Asus that removal of the stickers does not void the warranty. It just means that they are going to take extra precaution to make certain that no foul play was involved. Which to me read, if you smash a bunch of the pins on the board while you were fumbling aronud with the processor well....then you effed yourself in the A.

    You can try to remove the stickers with a hairdryer, but here are my thoughts on that. If you buy from a reseller, then they probably have documentation of what was installed and warranted on that machine. So that would be pointless. I am no expert here...I would recommend erroring on the side of caution. Get the bare minimum 720 chip. If it is not fast enough. I am sure that you have options for an upgrade....maybe a reseller can do some work for you, maybe you can send it to Asus for the upgrade...maybe the 720 chip is fine, and performs up to your standards. I cannot justify the 920s 1100 price tag. Sheet. that pretty much doubles the cost of the machine. I would get the machine...wait 2 years...if you still love the machine then upgrade the chip then.

    If you have to have the best...think about it this way. the 920 is not going to be the best for long, so you will probably either freak out and kill youself cause the guy down the street has an i7 1020 or an i9 chip or whatever the next confusing variation will be so, you are going to either die or void the warranty then...

    I would just get the 720 and let is fester. Some of that must have the best feeling all the time quickly dwindles and you will be gald you saved. If it grows into a monster, then feed it with an i7 920, do the upgrade yourself and it will only cost you $400 if you off the 720 chip.

    Just my .02

    /end rant
     
  27. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    Thank you guys for all the input, you just saved me $1.1k , im going with the 720
     
  28. pimpst1ck

    pimpst1ck Notebook Enthusiast

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  29. Donald@Paladin44

    Donald@Paladin44 Retired

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    ^--^
    The estimated first shipment arrival date of February 10th, with a 2nd shipment coming in on the 17th was posted in this thread over a week, and a hundred or two pages ago :D
     
  30. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    The $600 920XM on eBay is an ES CPU. You will need to keep your 720QM or have an OEM i7 ready to swap in before you RMA it for repairs as Asus will not cover a notebook with an unauthorized CPU. But like said before, you can remove the sticker and not worry about anything. It's the damage that is potentially done that matters here, so try not to go wreaking havoc underneath the heatsink, haha.
     
  31. Ltm8fanboi

    Ltm8fanboi Notebook Geek

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    Yay, that's my machine too. It's awesome, but time for an upgrade. I also have the 7900, so a little better than yours :p

    I'm absolutely sure it's total wishful thinking, but.... Is that front left USB slightly bigger than the rear one? ie. e-sata.... It has been bugging me since the first videos, but I'm sure it's a trick of eyes with the sloping keyboard...but.... AAAARRRGGGHHH will this thing just come already????
     
  32. MasqueradingTeabag

    MasqueradingTeabag Notebook Consultant

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    ^^

    Yes, you could probably condense this entire thread to 2 or 3 pages of relevant and correct information.


    Not that I in anyway did not enjoy the speculation, debating, and sheer giddy repetition and questioning. Oh, yeah. You know ASUS hit the right consumer buttons when the hype/discourse about a notebook that isn't even released amounts to 3500 posts in one thread and one forum alone.
     
  33. -=$tR|k3r=-

    -=$tR|k3r=- Notebook Virtuoso

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    Cheeseman Eats alot of Cheese

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    Hey everybody,

    I got stuck at page 120 orso.. So I guess I missed out on some information. But I was still wondering about the 128 bit bus.. Correct me if I am wrong, but the new video card (the 8570 serie) and the new GDDR5 make it up for the 128 bit bus?

    What I mean is that an older card with a 128 bit bus would more or less crumble when playing games at 1920 * 1080.. But this card can actually handle games at this high resolution?

    Thanks :)
     
  36. evensen007

    evensen007 Notebook Deity

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    Correct...
     
  37. xucchini

    xucchini Notebook Enthusiast

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    Does anyone know if the touchpad is multi-touch? I'm switching from a MacBook Pro and have gotten used to the 2-finger scrolling etc.
     
  38. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    highly unlikely

    if I had to guess.....synaptics like every other notebook on the market
     
  39. ynobody01

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    If the HD Radeon 5870 Mobility is anything like its big brother, it'll be able to handle any game in 1920x1080 and then some.
     
  40. mentalmike

    mentalmike Notebook Consultant

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    well i just bought a cheap acer netbook and it had it (multitouch)
     
  41. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    I would expect this to be about 5-10% better than a 4870m (at most)

    It should be able to do well in all but the most demanding titles just fine :)
     
  42. euisungkim

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    that's like gtx 280m with a slight overclock.
     
  43. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    the 4870 is overall about 5% stronger than a GTX 280m at stock

    the 5870 should be another 5-10% on top of that
     
  44. xucchini

    xucchini Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well that mgiht be good news... synaptics supports some level of multi-touch.

    http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/gestures

    I hope it works as well as I am used to. :)
     
  45. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    it exists, but I have not heard of it being used in any notebooks, maybe in handheld devices though, they sell to people other than notebook manufacturers
     
  46. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    its nothing like its big brother ;)

    it has a different dad
     
  47. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    It has two daddys.
     
  48. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Hopefully I am not the only one confused here.....

    Maybe when referencing a post on another page you should use quotes Moo ;)
     
  49. The_Moo™

    The_Moo™ Here we go again.....

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    that one.......
     
  50. cookinwitdiesel

    cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher

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    Ok, just checking haha

    thanks for the clarification :)
     
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