ASUS G73JH-A1 with ATi Mobility Radeon HD 5870 1GB GDDR5

If it were 80% of a desktop 5870 in terms of speed (probably clocked at 680 or 700mhz) and kept the 256 bit bus, gddr5 and 1600 shaders, it'll be faster than a desktop GTX 285. Even if it were 1440 shaders instead of 1600 it'd be the same deal. But as I mentioned earlier, I don't think ATi would introduce a card like that (though I would love it if they did).

 

WOW, I just noticed Donald over at PowerNotebooks.com is offering FREE IC Diamond for both CPU & GPU. Ken at GenTech is doing the same with AS5. I think what these resellers are doing is GREAT, because it's nice to know they are actually 'Hands-On' with your notebook. Comforting to me, indeed!

It keeps getting better folks!!!

 

This G73 looks amazing. I am so glad that I came across it while looking for a cheaper alternative to the Sager NP9850 that I was heavily considering.

 

Well, GIT YA ONE..... and join us in the fun!

 

Haha, well, I just added myself to the group buy list. That notebook is guaranteed to completely destroy my six year old Dell XPS desktop rig as well as pretty much every other notebook out there right now.

 

Well, just a thought...... but you may want to inquire about the initial supplies that are anticipated. Jumping on the 'group-buy' list, I do not think locks you into a 'Pre-Order' for the moment. You may want to consider pre-ordering seperately. I have a strong hunch that initial supplies are NOT going to meet demand for this notebook. I'd hate to see anyone getting left out in the cold here, and missing opportunity! Also, there are other resellers to consider here too, and there are good reasons not to jump into a group buy!

 

I agree with Striker, all 3 companies are offering great deals on these machines and im 99.999999999% certain there going to sell out quickly just off of pre-sales most likely. Jump on now while you can to ensure you get one of these bad boys!

 

Yeah, supply is going to far exceed demand and im sure it already has but since most resellers wont know just how many systems they have available till they actually ship everything is up in the air till that point... ill bet though there will be a few who get left out of the first shipment as it always happens in the notebook world and with this machine demand is going to be off the chain...

All the people we see saying they are buying one well it will be ten fold that for all the lurkers who are also getting one but dont post here...

 

Are the pictures on PowerNotebooks.com for real? I haven't seen the ones with the red keyboard surround before.

 

doubt it, the official design of the notebook has yet to be released, thats probably a G72 which is what the chassis is built from. im sure the total design graphics may be a bit different, we should know within the next week what it actually will look like.

 

Right On Guys!

Personally, I feel this whole 'group-buy' thing can mis-lead folks, and I still say it's a dubious practice! In doing so, it's drawing all attentions to one particular reseller, and I question if this practice is legitimately fair within these forums. I think ALL other resellers here should be addressing this with NBR!

Afterall, what is to stop any reseller from arranging, ummmm, I don't know, say a 'bada-whomever', to do precisely as we are witnessing here? I am NOT saying there has been misconduct here. I am saying what we are witnessing here, can lead to abuses in fair business practice and trade within these forums. I do not see this as ushering fairness amongst resellers, and it's somewhat a 'dog & pony' show to me. This lure, or ploy of savings, seems to have many oblivious, to other things very important in a high dollar purchase.

Sure, we all want to SAVE! But how much REAL savings will truly be achieved here. This practice is still drawing business to only ONE reseller, and it's unfair to other resellers who will not engage in unscrupulous bidding or pricing wars here. This product is not going to be given away here folks, and ALL of the resellers are competitive in their pricing!

Jumping on a list, is NOT locking you into a pre-order. You will not be pre-ordered per se, until you've commited, locked into the buy financially, and have received an 'Order Confirmation'!

I really do feel this will be a logistical nightmare, and some will be hurt in all this...... and surely some will miss out on their opportunity to get one of these machines.

FOLKS, all of the resellers 'PRICE-MATCH', and all price competitively!

Just my thoughts, and perhaps something to consider!

 

I notice the ASUS N71JQ-A1 is now available at xotic pc's for a bit less money. What sort of performance difference would there be between the ATI HD5470 1024MB PCI-Express GDDR3 and the ATI HD5870 GDDR5 ?

 

this is way to expensive, this laptop should cost no more then $100 at best buy and walmart. I have the g60 and am sick and tried of how quick they out date these things. we should still be on the 486 cupu i think. it plays games, it does word processing, it does the internet.

 

the 5870 will tear through the 5470 like a hot knife through butter.

 

Err... what?

 

and with it having GDDR5 over GDDR3, should provide a significant increase in benchmarks between the 2. You will notice the difference for sure!

 

just ignore him, he's a trolling pro.

 

hes just being ingnorant to the rest of us becuase he had 1 bad experience with a reputable company.

 

http://service.futuremark.com/hardware/graphics_cards/ati_mobility_radeon_hd_4870

I found this! if it is true,I think we must except about 10000 from 5870!

 

I'm not sure I agree 100% Striker. I am a member of some of the biggest A/V forums out there, and they have group buys with vendors all the time. It might be uncommon here, but it isn't elsewhere.

Although I have joined the group buy, we are all still waiting to see what it will entail. I have said in other posts that all 3 vendors here deserve the business. The orders they will get from this forum are going to be a tiny fraction of total sales, so you may not be looking at the bigger picture. Just my opinion though!

Chris

 

Thanks EIement and l3g4cy99, my focus is now firmly back on the g73.

Striker as far as the logistical nightmare goes, I'm thinking it would be a simple matter of sending those on the list a unique coupon code which awards them with the discount. Then its just a matter of ordering as usual.

 

Well, I think I am seeing the bigger picture quite well in this instance, but you are certainly welcome to your viewpoint as well.

I am not saying 'group-buys' can not work, and this really is not my argument here. Remember, I am talking about THIS instance, what is happening here, and how this is being conducted. I am certain there can be a better means and platform for such as this..... and there should be rules to insure amicability and fairness..... that's all. In it's present form, I see this as a means to 'bucking-the-system' or overting policy.

I know you have joined the 'group-buy' list, and I am concerned for you, and others. Again, I have addressed somes concerns, which I feel are legitimate, and I would suggest you know you are 'locked-in' to your purchase..... would hate to see you miss out on the initial shipment.

Surely there could be a better way.......

 

Now see folks.... here is a thinking person, and perhaps a better means to what we are seeing presently.

I feel there could be many better solutions to foster fainess here.

 

Only thing about this situation though striker is that a forum member approached the reseller about the possibilities of the group discount, the reseller didnt approach the customer. I dont think there is anything wrong with the ethics of this type of transaction as it was initiated by the consumer, not the seller.

But yes, I think there is legitimate concerns with people on the list along with the demand for this machine may weigh more than one can carry. Only true way to know is to order it 100% and get a confirmation email from the company saying your order is in place and we will let you know when you are charged and your product is shipped.

 

Ahhhh, yes..... in as much as WE KNOW. If you will re-read, I have addressed how such as this can lead to abuses.....

Thanks for your thoughts though....

 

this laptop wont have any trouble selling whatsoever

if a desktop 5870 can sell outfrom all vendors and have massing backlog, then i dont why a mobility 5870 wouldnt either

the only way it would be fair would be to limit the number involved in the group buy and have it as a "fair" first come, first serve basis.

now if they would take anyone at all then the list would become chaos (if enough knew)

of course i speak as one who is already on the list

 

Striker,

I would prefer if you just came out and said it if you know something negative. Like I said, in the A/V forums I visit, they do group buys all the time, so why do you smell something sinister here in this case? I really would like to know if you know something we don't. You at least owe that to us since you are expressing doubts. Group buys I have seen elsewhere work exactly like it is happening here. A list forms and those on the list get the group buy discount. It's that simple. What's to say Power or Gen couldn't do one as well. Believe me, I'm not trying to be belligerent, it just seems that you and EIment are hinting at something that is just below the surface other than your doubts about group buys.

 

This is what im going off of Striker, your making it sound like the reseller contacted the consumer seeing if he was interested in creating a group for a "discounted" price. The reseller did not contact the customer. The customer contacted the particular reseller seeing if they would do something like that. The reseller agreed. The said reseller has posted absolutely nothing on here regarding this deal other than the said customer saying he talked to the reseller and he agreed. All the promoting for this group and reseller for this group buy is being done by the customer, and the customer alone.

I dont think it was fair for you to question the business practice of this reseller when he has done nothing besides acknowledging one customer in a private message that he would entertain the idea if he got enough people that were interested.

 

There is nothing wrong with you being on the list, if this is your choice, but please try to understand what I am saying in my post here. Once you have read this, consider this..... are you pre-ordered now..... what of suppy -vs- demand..... and will you be seeing one of these notebooks in the initial shipment?

Personally, I pre-ordered right away, and I have my 'Order Confirmation'! I KNOW I will be receiving one of the first G73JH notebooks to arrive, and PRECISELY the way I want it.

 

id rather see how well each of these companies are selling in the first place before really digging deep in analyzing this group buy. i know that information will never be released.

but in the case of a group buy having priority shipping, then yea its ethically questionable

 

My, my, my...... my good fellow G73JH owner.

Did you overlook this sentence:

Please try to understand the entirety of meaning within my post.

Thanks!

 

There is nothing sinister about it. If you guys are getting a good deal through a group buy then stick with it. Supply won't be affected by 20 additional people buying a notebook..lol that's ridiculous. Just remember sometimes people have an agenda.

 

I do understand what your saying, I truely do my friend, but your statement has double meaning. Even though your not alleging it happened, you still unwittingly imply that Xotix contacted the customer for this to draw in sales for this item. You may not have meant it at all, but it does seem to imply it.

 

Guys,
what is visible from Strikers action's that he is trying to persuade the customers, who are wiling to come on xoticpc ship, to change resselers and if you read all his posts it's rather clear which one in particular he would like the conversion to be made to.
Also he is implying that you should pre-order from that resseler, even before the unveiling at CES. Atleast that is what I read between the lines. I do think very highly of Striker, but puting the facts together:
He knew about the actual upcomming model (some one from inside (resseler?) must have let him know)
Starting his own list for buying from Gentech (not very succesful unfortunately)
Extremely cheerful with people who buy from Gentech (although also cheerful with any pre-orderer)
I think that Striker is a little too bias, which comes more from a personal contact with the resseler than from the services that everyone should expect from the resseler.
So I would suggest to just put a stop on the topic of where to buy stuff (We have a very good list with all the resseler on the forums) AND MOVE BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THE LAPTOP AND IT'S SPECS.

 

I 100% agree mAvis! We really have gotten sidetracked from discussing this potentially AWESOME laptop!

 

WOW!

Please try to read and understand what I am saying here..... it is what it is! Please try to understand my post in it's entirety.

Also, I think I can say with a fair amount of certainty, neither PowerNotebooks or GenTech will be engaging in such as this!

 

I have read it. And re-read it! I'm just saying that group-buys are the norm in many other forums I visit, so it seems like your skepticism has some other basis about that particular re-seller. Anyhow, mAvis was right. We should get back to discussing how bad this laptop will be!

 

Greatest Laptop in the Universe!

G73JH-A1 > Macintosh 128K > Commodor 64

 

WOW mAvis,

I am sorry too many are reading 'between-the-lines' here. Why not simply read the post as written?

Also, as to the suppose GenTech list..... if you will look back, it was in satire and gest..... a SPOOF!

Yes, I think Ken is GREAT, and so is Donald, and Justin can be too! I try not to be too bias, but if I have been, please point this out to me.

As to cheerfulness, I would like to be so with all.

Regarding this present 'group-buy' scenario, my post have NOT been in the interest of any specific reseller, but rather my thoughts were to ALL other resellers.

I have expressed my concerns, and we will see how things play out. If I have been misunderstood here, well, my apologies, and AGREED, let's move this discussion to the G73JH!

 

haha! I tried to write how bad... it would be, but I got censored! So let's discuss how awesome it will be instead.

 

you better blieve I am going to see how it stands against the 280m gtx sli, 280m gtx, 9800m gtx and the 3870x2...

 

Same here... I hope it'll be better than 3870x2 and 280m gtx...

Once my G51j-a1 is sold, I'm pre-ordering this laptop!
Anyone going to CES? and if anyone is going, can u take a picture or a video and a description of the laptop? thanks alot
so curious about many things... do u guys thnik design will be the same?

 

iAta already stated that they are going to CES.

 

you bring up an excellent point. Wow.

the 3870x2 beat out every single gpu including the 280m and the 4870... I wonder how the 5870 will stack up against it......

 

The only thing i read from Strikers posts is what he keeps saying over and over about fair trade etc...

There are VERY strict guidelines that resellers must adhere to on these forums other wise the mods will come down on the them with a ton of bricks ...

So what i think he is ultimately asking is should any resellers on this forum be entitled to any extra ?.. Be it Xotic Gentech or Powernotebooks ?...

If people had pre ordered from any of those resellers and then suddenly jumped ship based on this Group buy scenario the reason they did was because they read it here on these forums in which case they were lead into this scenario from the reseller even though it was not directly...

Now Justin is a super guy along with Ken and Donald and im certain as i can be that it was never the intention to say steal sales from one to the other but in the end thats what it ends up looking like ...

 

Notebokcheck says this will be comparable to a desktop 5750 which from what I saw was slightly better than 280M GTX. I hope they are missing something.

 

Thank you Quad..... well stated! Perhaps I was ignorant in how I presented the message.

 

If its a 128bit card as some are speculating then it could very well be what you are saying or rather they are saying..

if its 256bit coupled with DDR5 then we should be in for a real treat...

I am remaining skeptical and optimistic right now if thats even possible ..

 

i think it would be a 256bit bus because ati names there stuff right (cept the 4870/4850 error)

 

I'm just gonna remain optimistic! It's GDDR5 & 256-bit!