ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

Problem isn't absorbing the heat, problem is that the heat is not going anywhere.
I can not remove the heat sinks, remember they have been attached permanently with thermal adhesive. To remove them would mean risking damaging the unit.

2 options, I can either add more copper or aluminum to the already heatsinks attached OR i can just buy a laptop cooler such as the Antec notebook cooler 200, or I can do both.

Kinda sucks it was not doing this at first.

 

ohh noes, permanent adhesion

buying a 200mm cooling solution and relacing the stock fan with spectre pros will surely make your temps alot better (just less portability i guess)

adding more copper or aluminum is a good idea but remember, it will just eat more space and may block more air due to more vertical surface area it gets

I have an idea, but dunno whether it will be successful or not,

my friend and i wants to make a metal back cover for the g73 (where we will mold an exact replica of the back cover)

atop of it will be glued pieces of copper heatsinks where it will connect to the existing vrms, or existing heatsinks you have already replaced. Of course all of it will be based from how far a person can modify or innovate for his g73

 

the g73 metal backcover will provide more surface area for sure, allowing the heat of the vrms to flow and spread equally within the cover, just like what prince black did

but we think that application of thermal paste and reapplication everytime the back cover will be removed is a must.. just following what basic physics says :3

just be sure that the application must be tight fit to provide excellent heat flow...

 

Well if the contact area is large enough with VRMs you could get away with pads. Just don't use it on your lap unless you want to cook yourself.

 

Looks like the Antec Notebook Cooler 200 is doing its job, computer has not crash 2 hours into Unigine.
I touched the heatsinks that cover the VRM's, they are SCORCHING HOT. Finger barely touched it and I quickly had to remove it so yes it is over heating.

I order some more copper heatsinks but my order was canceled. I'm hoping to add one or 2 more heatsinks to the VRM's heatsink. I can live with the Antec 200 but ideally I want passive cooling.

 

can this fan be adopted inside the 73?

through some modification like drilling holes in the back cover... it should give air equal or maybe greater than the 200mm cooler

 

so it can be done on asus g73jh or not ? too much too read so little time, the 5870M is not up to task with new games :X i want ultra graphics !

 

Can what be done? Install a 7970m on g73? Have you even read a little of what is on this thread? Before doing this project I read up as much as I could then I asked questions. I'll make it easy on you, read from 40 upwards

 

omg i read so much,, it seem that the prince way is the best, but how will i get it or make this kind of "block" the easy part is open the back case pulling the card and insert the new card, the hard part is making the cooling for the new one.

I wish there was a tutorial that really works, cause this is all custom way and i'm not feeling experienced enough.

 

F9zSlavik Hello, how are you your G73?
For cooling the VRMs have applied thermal adhesive?
My system is good but needs to improve, will post more photos after completing all the changes, for now I'm too busy with my work ...
For your system, I was thinking to place the fan on the side of the benches RAM, remove the first two banks ram and apply the fan.
The problem is that it limits your RAM is only 4GB .... But you can buy two benches 8GB, for a total of 16 GB ...

 

YES! Its wotk very nice if you do the mods that you need to do!

So guys i bought a cool thing that I found on ebay!
2 x Cool Ball Cooler Stand Pad Laptop Notebook Antiskid | eBay
Works very well!

 

thought jh's can only accept 4gb modules in it?

 

Yes I am using thermal adhesive, problem is the heat is not going away fast enough. Yeah post some photos, I am curious to see how you did it. I do have an idea. I'm thinking of adding aluminum to the copper thats on the VRM's. I have JUST enough space for them. I thought about adding more copper but aluminum does cool faster. I plan on using thermal adhesive to attach the aluminum to the copper. Another thing I am doing is adding aluminum heatsinks to the copper heat pipe, I have 3 on it now and it did drop the temps a little.
Fan idea sounds good but not sure if you can add 2x8gb sticks.
I'm stuck having to use a notebook cooler, which is fine with me, I do not have an issue with that.

 

Hello ... good to add other heatsinks ....
As you should Sinks copper, dissipates heat better than aluminum ... pity you have used thermal adhesive on VRMS ...
Maybe add two benches on RAM 4 GB, for a total of 8 GB ...
But what Vbios you are using?

 

What is that piece of metal that you used? What is it made of? Where did it come from? Did you just put thermal pads on all the VRMS, and then attach that piece of metal to those? Impressive work! I'm happy to know that ll that stands between my G73 and a 7970m is money, time, and cooling .

 

So anyone could help me about what cooling do i need to get ? i am not really good at modding and cutting stuff, I would want just to buy the card, get cooling that i need, put them with thermal paste or adehsive or how its called, i don't know what is the different between them and just put it in.

 

If you want to get 7970m working in g73 you need to mod and cut stuff. Also you need to take the laptop apart, not just open the backcase.

 

Yes it's not a project for the feint hearted, you be best off looking at selling your machine and moving over to a barebone of some make.

 

The problem is i am from israel, ordering a barebone of any company from USA or anything that is out of Israel will cost me, alot.. this computer cost me around 2279$ at the time, Asus G73JH-A1 as it comes, with a bag and a gaming mouse, nothing else upgraded or anything. so it is expensive here and there are no barebone to buy from israel at all. It really hard.

well i might just wait for the 8000 series, it might be easier to cool and smaller and better performance, and they are special for mobility first even before desktop so it wont take long.

and hell, the gpu is not cheap at all, its like 1900 NIS, 500$ inc delivery.

 

Could you order Clevo/Sager based unit from Germany or GB? I'm thinking of it as I live in Finland and we also don't have any resellers for those machines and what we do have are pretty pricey compared to central European countries or US..

 

Any chance of ordering a barebone and re-using what you can? Getting some of it locally?

 

Hi guys.
I've read almost whole topic but I'd like to confirm something:
DO you guys got fan speed and HDMI output working properly(i not care about sound, just need video output) ?
And just to confirm: If my card comes with CLevo BIOS , it should work without any problem, right (I'm asking this since By_Cleiton got CLevo card with Dell bios inside)?
Thanks

 

Good question ^

 

Hi friend! Fan and hdmi output works well without audio but the clevo card that a bought came with the dell bios and it was stuck at 450mhz. I solved it doing a vbios with the clevo vbios with enduro off.
My card is amazing
Never had a BSOD
Take care and you will be a very happy person =D
Good luck


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Use SetFsb faster i7 720qm

mem 1600mhz (timing 9.9.9.25) up 3.7mhz or 1866mhz (timing 9.9.9.28) up 3.9mhz
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How to use SetFsb, how do i know which clock to use.

 

Bleh I wanted to do this but my G73JH is dying a slow death lol.

 

Still can't figure out how to upgrade an SW

 

How so? What's the problem?

 

For those one that completed the upgrade, can one of you guys write a step by step instruction on what card to use and all the modification procedures?

 

Hi

I just got my 7970m today, and i am writing an Word Document, with all the steps i am going to do. and try to document as good as i can !
I hope to be finished by the weekend !

I have read the theread pages from 1 - 79 ! hope its ok that i use some of your ideas in my tutorial = ) ?

il uppload it when im done !

 

That document is going to great help o me. I've just decided to upgrade my machine to see it I can breath new life into it. I also have the Asus G73-JH-A2 I'm looking to update the CPU, GPU, Wifi, Memory and HD.

CPU = I7-940xm
GPG = HD 7970m
WiFi = Intel 6200n
Memory = Crucial 4GB x 4 for 16GB
HD = OZC 512GB Vertex 4 SSD

 

Stept into a problem, when i boot the PC, the cpu fan starts, but the gpu fan do not react,

i did not have to reflash the card it was plug and play i bought the card for Clevo with ENDURO desabled !

is it a bios error or does the fan wait to kick inn before i have proper drivers installed or temperature to raise ?

 

Hello the fan does not start immediately, you have to pass a certain threshold temperature.
For me desktop never turns on the fan ... active only in game

 

ok i also used the bios you provided, and under max load my GPU is 70 'C, The VRM's is not Very hot =)

is there any diference to go from an 720qm to an 940xm ?

 

If you already have a 7970m on your G73JH and is looking to upgrade your 720qm to a 940xm, make sure you're already using a modded 240W Alienware power brick or else, your stock power brick won't be able to supply enough power to the machine.

 

yes, i have an 240W powersuply in transit, hope it will arive soon by my calculations, the 7970 and a 720qm will runn with a 150W powersuply, but no owerclocking hehe it boots and i ran one 3D mark 11 to test if all was ok i got 5800 points, and temps were ok

and another qestion. will the 940xm or 920xm run beter on 1866mhz memmory ? or does it not make any diference ?

 

Unfortunately the 940xm or 920xm only works on memory modules with 1066 or 1333 MHz ARK | Intel® Core

 

Hello Rapzor.... Great Job :thumbsup:.... actually update the i7-940XM do not need another power supply ... the power supply 240 Watt helps not only volumes overloading and do not overheat if you use a power supply stock ...
Also upgrading the CPU does not need to install RAM to 1866 MHz is influential because i7-940XM has the multiplier unlocked.
The problem that is gripping the G73JH and I'm noting, is the power block that the motherboard exercises once exceeded 150 watts of power absorbed by both the i7-940XM CPU under stress, and the 7970M card ...
The motherboard JH reduces the power of both the CPU and also reduces the use of the GPU for excessive power consumption ...
I'm trying to solve this problem by using a VBIOS with undervoltage, to reduce the power absorbed by the paper 7970M, using always the same clocks.
I tried to slightly overclock the 7970M is this caused sudden drops in GPU usage in games ...
the motherboard JH unable to power over 150 watts.
Forget about overclocking the 7970m rather try to reduce power consumption using undervoltage.

 

Yeah, i see with GPU-Z the GPU load is not constantly @ 100 %. and thats not good. atleast my temps do not go over 71 'C

so what you are saying is : the motherboard cant give out more than 150W in total ?
so when the parts want to draw more power, the motherboard adjust down the CPU and GPU speed.

i am also intrested in trying the new undervolt bios if you can pull it of anyway Great work :thumbsup:

 

Hello everyone,
As rapzor before me, I am also in the process to upgrade the stock GC from my JH to the HD 7970m.
Here are the upgrades I already made to it:
- 920xm CPU,
- 16GB of Corsair Vengeance 1600MHz RAM
- 256GB Samsung 840 PRO SSD
- Intel 6235 WiFi Card
- Alienware 240W PSU

Naturally the HD 7970m would be the ultimate upgrade, to complete the job.
But the findings from PrinceBlack got me a little worried, so I got me a Power meter and put the Asus thru its passes.

Testing ran as follows:
- Power saving mode, sitting on desktop (GPU 100/150MHz and CPU 1200MHz): 27 to 38W
- Balanced mode, small tasks (GPU 400/1000 and CPU 1200-3000MHz): 79 to 94W
- Performance mode, furmark and prime (GPU 820/1150 and CPU 3200MHz 6 threds ): 212 to 224W

All the power numbers are of course measured from the wall. So you have to consider the efficiency of the power supply that shouldn’t be worse than 80% and you get a total power consumption from the power supply at around 169 to 179W.
There is also the possibility of a measurement error of the power meter, or there are Motherboard Type related power restrictions.

PrinceBlack, it would be very interesting to see power consumption numbers from your laptop, than we could compare them to mine.

Cheers

 

Hello ... Nice to meet you ....
I'm looking for a VBIOS with undervoltage ... my VBIOS has a voltage of 1.00 volts to 850 * 1200 ....
I want to bring down the voltage to 0.95 volts leaving the clocks by default. In this way we should be able to to work at peak performance both CPU and GPU ...
Here I found something .... AMD 7970m - modified VBIOS
It seems that you can install the Dell VBIOS first generation on our card Clevo, with Undervoltage of 0.95 volts.

 

Yes, I saw that thread and was able to download all of the Dell VBIOS variants. As soon as I get my 7970m I plan to try them out.
Regarding your FPS drops, I did some further digging and found this: pau1ow

Aldo I did the Alienware 240W mod from my 150W original PSU, by replacing the whole cable from the 150W PSU to the 240W, without any problems. I even see more stability by OCing, like with the original PSU I managed 3.375MHz on all 4 cores, for a benchmark run, but now I can go as high as 3.475MHz.

 

What I wanted to ask you guys with the 7970m already installed is, which revision of the GC you have - V1.0; V1.1 or the latest V1.2?

 

I did the same modification of Dell 240W PSU Pau1ow suggested. Originally I tried some cheap complete Asus tip with cable, but the cable was too thin and warming up. Later I ebayed this tip, which I connected with the original Dell cable I previously removed from the PSU.

It works pretty fine, but the quality of my tip isn't ideal - it doesn't sit in the notebook's power jack as good as the original G73 PSU tip. The new one seems to be 1-2 mm shorter. While touching the power cable or bending it too much the thick power cable tension moves the tip into some wrong position with less contact and no power gets into the notebook. Also my soldering inside the tip might be not good, or my notebook's power jack is too tired (but with the original 150W PSU and its tip I don't experience any problems).

 

But prince, those vbios is without the enduro off so we need to modify the vbios from dell that have the enduro disabled
Tis vbios came with the card that we bought wit clevo heat sink!
We the vbios patcher from tech inferno!

 

Ok, here are some pictures from the cooling mod I made, before the 7970m gets here







This is a CPU fan for the Asus K42, A40J, A42J, A42JR, A42JV, X42J and fits only just in the separate disk compartment. So the VRM will be cooled.
The fan cable I soldered to the JH GPU fan, so it is automatically controlled with rising GPU temperature.
To improve airflow I than cut of some part of the G73 case.

 

Awesome work, how was the fan cable soldering done? Did you happen to take any photo of it?

 

Hello banchee, how about removing the dvd-rom and putting a fan or two in there? In my opinion, I think it might be much better if you get a 17-inch notebook cooler like NZXT LX Cryo or a CoolerMaster NotePal Infinite Evo and let your G73 sit on it without the access panel while having the air-con turned on. With the few gap between the surface and the bottom of the machine, I think not enough air would be able to cool the GPU and eventually temps would still rise.