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    ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by new2019, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. banchee

    banchee Newbie

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    @Hackness
    I didn't make any photos of the actual soldering, but I can make some of the cable management next time I open the JH up.
    Basically what I did, I took both fans and cut of the 4 pin connectors, at the JH GPU fan I soldered a Y, like this:
    Y connector.jpg

    Then I connected it to the motherboard and routed the cable. In the end I soldered the K42 CPU fan. It wasn't to tricky, the only problem was the thin wires, you have to be careful by removing the insulation, because you can easily cut the wire and than it can get to close to the 4 pin connector, or the fan, to properly solder it.

    @JehutyZeroshift
    17-inch notebook cooler is not an option for me, although it would probably make the best effect.
    I haven’t really thought of the solution of fans in the Blu-Ray compartment, maybe because I am using it to often, to compromise it for better cooling. But I wasn’t using the second hard drive compartment, so it was obvious for me.
     
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    gsk3rd Notebook Geek

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    Does the 720qm bottleneck this gpu?
     
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    yes i will say so, in some games. like Battlefield 3 i get the same FPS in low , medium , high. and a litle lower in Ultra.
    but i am not sure if a new CPU will get enough power from the moterboard like " PrinceBlack " is sugesting.

    i still have the original PSU from asus. i have not changed to a del 240 W yet. but that will not help unless the Asus motherbord wont draw more than 150W maximum.

    but there is alot of difference in preformance to go from a 5870m to a 7970m. all the games are playable again :D
     
  4. banchee

    banchee Newbie

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    rapzor, can you paste some Pictures of your build?
     
  5. PrinceBlack

    PrinceBlack Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello People .... I come here to give you good news ....
    I mentioned a few days of feeding problems, caused by the motherboard circuitry that they could not provide enough power to both GPU and CPU creating performance degradation ....
    After various tests I accrto that is not a problem of voltage drop but bensi performance variances are related to the temperature reached by the CPU ... In ASUS motherboard there is a function called PROCHOT that minimizes the frequency of all four cores when the CPU has a temperature of 75 - 76 ° C. ...
    in this way I reply of performance degradation in a continuous manner ....
    Through the program I was able to disable ThrottleStop this function and to work the i7 940 XM at a frequency of 2926 MHz all four core 22x133 with a power consumption of 90 watts Current 78 Amps.
    The G73 JH is improved considerably but have problems of temperature has reached the CPU 95 ° C with wPrime with 8 threads ...
    the GPU works at the maximum load of work, and there are occasional slight drop in load GPU ...
    In essence, it is understood that the 7970M reduces its workload because it must wait for the CPU ...
    If the 7970M has a very veloca CPU to the video card works at maximum ...
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    That's pretty interesting, though 95C in prime is not actually that bad.
     
  7. PrinceBlack

    PrinceBlack Notebook Enthusiast

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    is not as bad as 95 ° C .... To keep in mind that all the clocks to 3 GHz and four cores.
    the motherboard can provide necessary energy .... now I'm thinking about overclocking the GPU ...
     
  8. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well good samples can overclock a little on an undervolt if you need a little spare power to work with.
     
  9. By_cleiton

    By_cleiton Notebook Consultant

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    1.05V required for 1ghz? The samples just don't seem as good these days.
     
  11. By_cleiton

    By_cleiton Notebook Consultant

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    I didn't test a higher clock yet
    I am going on slownly steps =D
     
  12. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    I'd be more wary about the voltage changes than the frequency changes :p
     
  13. lambe.b

    lambe.b Newbie

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    Any news on this matters ? i might be interested in this if someone could help me out figure how to proceed in the challenge :O
     
  14. DH48

    DH48 Notebook Evangelist

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    Damn the 7970m look to work much better then the 6970m did. At least it is not dying like the 6000 series did at random.

    Good work all :)
     
  15. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It has been done so just read through :)
     
  16. Xioteer

    Xioteer Newbie

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    Hey guys!

    I've been reading this thread for a while now. I'm wondering if there's a complete guide available for the upgrade?
    I stopped reading at around page 25 ;) It's a great opportunity for me to upgrade my G73JH rather than buy a new laptop that can hardly compete with an upgraded g73 ;)
     
  17. eldragon0

    eldragon0 Notebook Guru

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    Yes, it's in this thread, read though it all.
     
  18. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    It's worth reading it all to make sure you fully understand what is going on.
     
  19. F9zSlavik

    F9zSlavik Notebook Consultant

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    UPDATE

    Hey guys long time no see. Quick update, G73JH still working absolutely beautifully xD
    That problem I was having where it would shut down, well... that happened because I entrusted someone else to insulate the wiring when I modded the Alienware AC Adapter. Re checked the cables and well.... they were making contact with one another causing a short, causing the AC to get hot then crashing my system. I thought it was because it was over heating. Apparently not. xD

    XIOTEER, if memory serves, around page 30 and up I started posted about me wanting to do it and well I eventually did it. Wasn't hard, more nerve wrecking then anything. System really does scream POWER. Still using 720 CPU, I dont have any issues with it. I have detailed pictures on how I did it.

    Wanted to ask you guys. Want to put a down payment on a VW Golf R, don't really use the laptop as much, I would consider selling it only if I could get a worth while amount. What do you think I could get for my G73JH running 7970m? 8gb ram, 1 128gb SSD, 1 750gb Seagate Hybrid, 16x9 res screen. What's the least amount and max amount?

    Cleiton, I haven't overclocked mine yet to be honest I haven't had a need to xD Also too scared lol Not so much the money invested but the time I would hate to kill the ard.
     
  20. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Trusting someone else with your mods? Tut tut :p

    You would have to see what someone would want on here, anywhere else would not appreciate the mods.
     
  21. F9zSlavik

    F9zSlavik Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah everyone I my FB were commenting my pictures of the mod "no one understands Gabriel" ;/
    No one truly understand the mod and its challenges. Sad, its a success only a few can share. How many people have done this mod successfully? Like 4 right including myself?

    My success will be in direct proportion to the service I give to others. I have lived by this philosophy and has proven countless times to be rewarding. I know if someone needs a cheap awesome gaming laptop, they will prosper from mine for many moons to come.

    How would you price it?
     
  22. By_cleiton

    By_cleiton Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys!
    Come back to say that my g73jh still alive!
    It is working veeeery well!
    I overclocked my card to 940/1378 @ 1.0v and my temps never go above 75
    I downloaded this driver and for me is working better than before when I play crysis 3
    Multiplayer always 99% and a few time 80% os usage!
    So here is the link:
    AMD Catalyst 13.x (12.101.2.1 April 16) Download
     
  23. Meaker@Sager

    Meaker@Sager Company Representative

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    Well the usage issues were more related to enduro systems, but glad you are enjoying it.
     
  24. By_cleiton

    By_cleiton Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone tried the new beta drive?
     
  25. F9zSlavik

    F9zSlavik Notebook Consultant

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    Nope, will eventually try it this weekend.

    Hey Cleiton if memory serves, your upgrade didn't go so well right or did you ever get it fixed?
     
  26. By_cleiton

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    Its is perfect! =D
    Now I am with the new beta drive and overclocked to 1000/1378 @ 1.35v
    I tested the nem drive with bioshock and my usage isl always between 90~99%
    I don't want to OC more because the g73 can't handle the heat so well
    And here in brazil the temperature is very hight!
    And about u?


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  27. flaviowolff

    flaviowolff Newbie

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    Guys, I am really sorry to post this here... but it seems to me that this is where the G73 pros are!
    I have just killed my G73JH when flashing a modified BIOS ( http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...um/670921-asus-g73jh-bd-prochot-bios-mod.html) using a NTFC flash drive (yes, I know... should have read the post carefully..). I have just brought the notebook to a repair store, but I'm not trusting the guy to program the BIOS correctly. Do you guys have any concrete sugestion? Should I order a new pre-programmed BIOS chip from eBay? Should I order a new motherboard?
    Thank you very much, and sorry for the change of subject. I tried to send a MP to some of you guys, but there was no MP button on your profiles.
    Thanks again!
     
  28. F9zSlavik

    F9zSlavik Notebook Consultant

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    Sorta the wrong thread, honestly I would just make a new thread and post your question there. I don't know an answer but I know others do. No one is going to see your post in this section FYI.
     
  29. moambeiro

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    Hey Cleiton, i have one g73jh too, i'm very interested on this upgrade, do you have some e-mail or msn where we can talk better about this in portuguese?

    Thanks, Gilberto.
     
  30. Meaker@Sager

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    Nice clocks! Even some alienware users have not been able to oc.
     
  31. By_cleiton

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    Legal encontrar um brasileiro!
    [email protected]

    Good lucky

    Thank you!
    I made a mistake, it is @1.035v ....=D
    Today I will try something new to improve my temps but it is simple things
    Put some coopers, make some holes...
    My temps on crysis 3 MP are 80~84
    It's ok because I've seen some Clevos with 85~90 when OC
    ^^

    Edit: add more information



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  32. moambeiro

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    Did u check your e-mail?
     
  33. By_cleiton

    By_cleiton Notebook Consultant

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    Email sent!


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  34. gaetano

    gaetano Notebook Enthusiast

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    Did you have to mod the heatsinks at all? I am thinking about getting one. Do you mind answering these questions?

    What 7970m did you get?
    What drivers did you end up getting?
    How much did it set you back?
    Are there any glitches?
    Do you see an overall improvement over the stock 5870m?

    Thanks :)
     
  35. Meaker@Sager

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    There is certainly an improvement over the 5870M, the 7970 is in a different league of performance.
     
  36. By_cleiton

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    I have a clevo one and do you have to do some mods to your heatsink
    The 7970m is MUCH better than the 5870m about 2x or 2,5
    battlefield 3 with 5870m ~25 fps 7970 ~55fps on ultra!
    Good Lucky
     
  37. balane

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    Lots to read here.

    The Alienware 7970M works fine but the fans run at full speed all the time.
    The Clevo 7970M has everything working, including HDMI, and the fans cycle up and down as they should
    Clevo cards need to have their BIOS flashed to deactivate Enduro.
    Both the Alienware and the Clevo 7970M require heatsink modification.

    Do I have this correct?

    Is there a decent place besides eBay to purchase a Clevo 7970M?
     
  38. Meaker@Sager

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    You can try from sager themselves I suppose or on the marketplace here.
     
  39. F9zSlavik

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    I got mine off the market. Be nice to see a few more people do the mod.
     
  40. balane

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    OK, thanks. Been watching the market for a little while. Guess I'll give Sager USA a call for more info. I'm hoping to get a 1080P screen off of eBay here in a few days, if I get lucky. I really want to make this a more powerful computer because it's getting kind of old. I love it though.
     
  41. Meaker@Sager

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    Screens should be pretty common, I have used laptopscreen.com and found them to be SUPER responsive to questions and getting things shipped.
     
  42. LegendaryKA8

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    I don't want to stray too off topic but to the poster looking to go to a 1080p display, unless you're dead set on a glossy screen the AUO B173HW01 V5 is a direct matte replacement. It was one of the first things I did to my G73 and have had nothing but good things to say about it. Bright, complete lack of reflections... you can even use it outdoors if you need or want to.
     
  43. Meaker@Sager

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    The V7 is the glossy high colour gamut version also :)
     
  44. LegendaryKA8

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    That is true. The V5 is I think 70% gamut, and the V7 is around 90-95%? I could be wrong on that, but that's what I remember when researching displays.
     
  45. CookieMook

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    Hi all,

    I need your help. I have made this mod with a clevo card (with enduro disabled as sold on ebay) and got a card with Dell vbios on it. This limits my GPU core clock to 450 MHz for some reason. I have flased with the rom from Sosa and from Prince Black. In both cases, the flash is successful, however, as soon as I install the latest catalyst drivers, I get instant BSODs. I had to flash back to the dell vbios to get back into windows. When using either Sosa or Prince Black Vbios with the default windows drivers, I can get into windows, only the clocks are limited to 150 MHz.

    Also, I noticed in the G73JH bios, the vbios is stated as ?? (not recognized). Is this normal (i,e. others who have successfully done this, what does the G73JH bios display as vbios?

    Any help on getting the proper clevo vbios to work without immediate BSODs would be welcome. My system is the G73JH-A1 with motherboard bios v 213, an intel 920xm cpu and modified 240W dell Psu. I have not yet tried to stress test the card.

    Any suggestions?

    (Forgot to mention that sometimes the fans (both CPU and GPU) will run full blast after boot even if CPU and GPU temps are low. Seems to me like there is some kind of motherboard bios vs vbois incompatibility)

    Thanks
     
  46. CookieMook

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    Further info:

    I have done a clean install of the catalyst drivers (driver sweeper in safe mode).
    Using the dell vbios the screen goes black with horizontal line patterns (screen tearing) whenever I use Chrome (I suspect it would be the same for any 2D application requireing higher gpu clocks). Seems like some clock incompatibility? It usually returns to normal on its own, otherwise a sleep/wakeup will restore the display.

    Those of you in the know, does any of this seem familiar?

    Thanks
     
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    Update:

    The fan issue seems to be resolved. Note to those who are hooking up an extra 4 pin fan to the GPU fan header: only 3 of the 4 cables should be connected to the second fan: the red (power), black (ground) and blue (pwm fan speed control). Leave the yellow cable only connected to the primary gpu fan as this is the RPM sensor. If you connect it to both, it will confuse the fan controller and in my case cause the fans to blow at 100% all the time.

    The dell vbios that came with my card causes screen tearing whenever the gpu memory clock jumps from 300 (idle) to 1200 MHz. The screen returns to normal once the clocks are back at 300 MHz. Anyone else have this behavior? What can be done about this?

    Thanks
     
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    The V7 is a 90% glossy display.
     
  49. By_cleiton

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    What did u do to cool the vrms?
    Good lucky


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    Hi By_cleiton,

    I used Prince Black's method of cutting the 7970m heatsink and screwed it in place using machine screws. I also am using banchee's second fan mod in the hardrive compartment (connecting 3 of the 4 pins from primary gpu fan header as explained in my previous post. I don't think I am having any heat issues: gpu temps never above 55 C since the clocks are kept low.

    I think it is a CCC driver issue. I am using the latest 13.4 CCC drivers and getting bsods (upon boot with Sosa Clevo vbios, bsod when generating windows experience index with dell vbios (this case the atimpag.sys file seems to cause it).

    What are you using as drivers for your 7970m?

    I did a clean install of win7 and could not get the 13.4 CCC to install properly with the Sosa Vbios (as posted by Hax). Kept saying that the drivers were not properly installed for my hardware. I tried installing the 13.6 beta drivers and got BSODs. I can install the 13.4 CCC with the dell vbios, but the screen goes insane when the memory clocks are increased from idle 300 MHz to 1200 MHz (as if the screen refresh was all messed up: screen goes black with flashing horizontal lines, then comes back to normal once idle clocks are back (450 MHz core, 300 MHz Memory)

    I will try different drivers to see if I can get any luck. Anyone else have this issue? Is my card dead? I doubt it since I have not stressed it yet and it is fine (no artifacts) at low clocks.

    As for the fan issue: I have isolated it to the faulty acpi sensor on the G73JH motherboard (sometimes showing 102 C in hwdinfo when all other temps are well below 70 C). This is causing both my GPU and CPU fans to run full speed. I'll double check that the thermal pad is still well installed on the motherboard chip (on the metal plate behind the keyboard).

    Please help me out, I've been at it all day for the past 3 days.

    Thanks
     
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