ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

I also have a 6970m clevo card by now and flashed it to a dell vbios to have hdmi output fonctionnal... So it's clearly the vbios that define the ouputs
I know that clevo 7970m is hynix vram chips as my dell 7970m. and I could test flashing vbios clevo if someone could send me the original vbios dump from clevo cards...
There is also still the svl7 way to get back to the old bios even if i know it's better getting off this solution !!!...
The card will not be bricked in a definitely way...
The card is a blue one, with ref 747m2 from dell

 

clevo cards can be flashed to any vbios where as the vram chips the same , but dell aint like that , even thought you flash the vbios to clevo , the fan will be on 100% . but even if you flash a clevo card with dell vbios the fans will work normal . we have not discovered why clevo perfectly works on asus.
i dont want to make you waste your 500$ upgrade a loss.
by if you want to take the risk , I could find it for you ,
if you still want it let me know.
thanks

 

hmm so it did partly worked
seems to be promising hope you manage to make it post.

 

I'm not really worried about the fan issue.. the ECs are not identical from asus/clevo as dell. I knew it from the beginning.

It's more the issue of the screen that is a problem for me... I will test with the control center if the driver allows me to recognize the g73 screen
But I'm gonna make it work, so i'm ready to flash with a clevo bios from the new sager notebooks with 7970m...
If you could get one, I will do the test... (and maybe have to reflash it "hard" way)...

 

pfiouuuuu

lot issues finally !
Very difficult to install the driver... the 12.5 beta doesn't want to install... every time i tried, the laptop freeze.
I had to install the dell driver (8.93) and with it I have a powerplay issue : the card stays at 2D frequencies
But with this driver, i could enter the catalyst control center. in it, i've been looking for a way to enable the main screen, but strangely, this one was already detected, and was running at is native resolution.
So now, I don't have any clue to go further... I'm thinking this is not a vbios issue after all...
maybe after a night of good sleep....

 

Hey!!!
the issue sounds like someting wrong with it ,
il get you the latest modded alienware hd 7970m driver to work on asus g73 , because there is some driver issues with this card.

 

here is the modded driver , you should try this old driver

or new 12.4 modded 32bit
or 12.4 modded 64bit driver

 

I would also suggest a clean install of Windows for this. There could be many factors involved, so I would at least limit the odds and make sure that it is not a software issue on the OS side before anything else.

 

you're right...
will install the OS and then the modded 12.4 driver...
But only on next week because : I'm on holidays tonght, and riding to spain for motogp event !

 

hello all,

where did you find it ? could you give me a link ?

Thanks

 

there is no such modded bios for asus g73jh ,
dont turn your g73 into brick by flashing with wrong bios.

 

I've modded my g73 bios with AMIBCP 4.53, and I didn't brick my laptop... But nothing helped for the 7970m, and also, the hyperthreading option don't do anything on OS. But I've been able to play with some thermal option.

 

Just get a new laptop... Seems to me an insane amount of time and money.

 

Its a lot more for a new system with a 7970M and on the time, you are kind of missing the point.

 

Before I got my G73JH, I would be changing laptops almost every year. I went through 9 laptops in 7 years. The G73JH has been my favorite laptop and I for one would rather invest in a new GPU rather than buy an entirely new system. Plus, a GPU upgrade would cost a heck of a lot less than buying a new laptop.

 

Everything above 1.5 years are YUCK in regards of notebooks

 

GX660, M17X R2 come to mind........

Both capable and both able to take the 7970M.

 

you cant say YUCK!!
Iam using an 7 year old toshiba qosmio with 2.0ghz and 2gb ram , it does perform like my asus g73 , but the only thing is I cant pay much games in it .

 

Not really, my friend has a 2 year old clevo and it runs BF3 on ultra settings at 55fps

 

@sosa
do you have any updates about your upgrade?

 

I believe he's on a holiday trip in Spain and said that further progress will be made next week.

 

You'd rather waste time with trying to install a 7970M? 7970M isn't cheap to begin with. If you fry it, then you just wasted whole lot of time and money. And even if you upgrade the G73JH to the 920XM, it's still slower than the 3610M. Ivey bridge is a huge upgrade over the first gen i7. And plus the available upgradeable LCDs on the new models are alone worth upgrading to a new system I think.

To each their own, but I will be ordering a P150EM this week, with a 750GB XT hybrid drive SATA 3, 95% NTSC Gamut Matte LCD, 7970M, superior backlit keyboard, superior port options (SATA, DisplayPort, DVI, FireWire, and more), 3610M Ivey Bridge, 12GB 1600 ram, easy access to for maintenance, cleaning and upgrading, no stupid stickers on screws that would void warranty, MUCH MUCH better battery life, switchable graphics enabled all for $1650. I just don't see how the hassle of installing a 7970M on an aging machine that is totally not worth that much time or money to upgrade is a better option than what I just mentioned.

If you can afford to waste time and money on a 7970M and 9 laptops in 7 years, you can certainly afford to do what I'm planning to do in the next few days.

 

Eventually, when my needs are no-longer met and I find something worth investing into, I'll replace this machine. I've come to the conclusion, that the benefit of all that fancy new technology means absolutely nothing to me. It is all a gimmick orchestrated by corporations to constantly sell customers the latest and greatest new gear. We've reached a point that the hardware is beyond our real-world practical needs. I happen to be in Architecture and I use very intensive software for building information modeling and honestly, this laptop handles what I need. The only limitation is the GPU. I don't even game that often, but obviously when I do, I expect the highest graphics. Other than that, why should anyone be promoted to waste the embodied energy put into producing this piece of technology after merely 2 years? Aside from the monetary perspective, just imagine the physical and natural resources incorporated into designing and assembling this item, only to become "outdated" to some and no-longer worth investing into. That's called planned obsolescence. If it's not the specific hardware with a limited useful life-span designed to fail, then the product itself is made socially undesirable in order to compel consumers to purchase a similar product which is "newer". If everyone was to replace laptops every so often, then there would be no reason to make them last longer than a year or two. Now if this upgrade proved to be impossible to do or not practical for that matter, then from a totally consumer point of view, the only possible replacement for me (incase my laptop blows-up) would be the Samsung Series 7 Gamer NP700G7C. But… the current set-up is equipped with a Geforce GTX 670M and there is no word on a HD 7970M version, so I'll choose to wait.

 

Have not been here for a long time. Nice to see ppl still testing the hell out of the JH. Nice work so far sosa106. Shame about the GPU not working as it should but you still might be able to pull it off.

The 6970m was not a wark in the park to many of the GPU-s died. Might be that they could not cope with the awesomeness of the G73

Have not been able nor had time to solve the fan control issue on my G73. GF does not mind the fans at all. Am still tempted to test the 6790m in it and also the 7970m. Just waiting for the shop to give me the green light on 7970m




Keep up the good work

 

@DH48 : can you email me the hd 6870m vbios that works on your g73 ,
I need that vbios to flash my dell hd 5870m to 6870m.
thanks

 

I would agree if it was just slight improvements in speed, like upgrading from a HD5870M to GTX 670M that the G75 is offering. But I mentioned a lot of other things that make it worth it especially in your industry. It seems you may need a mobile system, I'm looking to downgrade from 17" to 15". The screen itself will be a worthwhile improvement. The available ports such as USB 3 or the SATA port will also be great. The availability of DVI, DisplayPort along with HDMI another great upgrade for external monitors. The improved keyboard, something you use nearly every moment using the laptop is a good improvement.

I see what you are saying, if the G73JH is serving your purpose now, more power to you. I just don't see how upgrading to a HD6970M is a worth your time and money on the G73JH that has mediocre keyboard, mediocre LCD, and class leading bulk. All I'm saying, if you got to the point where you need to upgrade your GPU and CPU or whatever else for your needs, then wouldn't a new system like what I mentioned be a whole lot economical in terms of money, time and benefit?

 

I all !
I just came out today from my trip, and I've been able to testthe card on my GF w860cu v2, (made me dremeled the heatsink). And unfortunatly, work in the same way as my g73...
I REALLY need that Clevo 7970m vbios to be able to go further with my tries of being able to make work that card on my laptop...

For all those thinking it's a waste of time and money, ok, I've been waiting for your donation to buy the m18x. Plus, The upgrade is really funny (I think dh48, cheeseman, evgasr2, and other will agree) It's a 2 years old laptop, and, if the upgrade succeed, will be a lot better in games than the very last g75...

Tomorrow, I will finally be able to upload the pitcures of installation, I will now go to bed !! (1400 kilometers this WE with my bike, and a lot of sangria/tequila ^^)

 

I cheer you - just do it @sosa106
I think - modifying our notebooks like G73JH its not just a contest who make better notebook from basic form - i think Asus G73 have soul and it's worth trying to upgrade/modify it
Not everyone have money to buy monsters like M18x - but i think i can get maybe 1500zł (500$) maybe more to upgrade my G73 - i5-430M to 920XM,5870M to 7970M and B173HW01 v3 to something better

 

@sosa106 : join http://forum.techinferno.com/ and open a topic requesting vbios file , they mite have it because some had eurocom cards and clevo cards.
are you sure that the card works , it looks like dead card to me.

 

Here are the pictures of the 7970m dell card (and also the 6970m) of my install
My modded heatsink is made with parts of the clevo heatsink and arctic colling adhesive thermal paste
The thermal pads are 7w/mK from phobya, and I used arctic silver 5 for the gpu (easy to paste !)

 

That's what I thought when I put the card in the w860cu... I think the main display output is dead too... if that's the case, there is still a big hope that 7970m card will work very well on g73.
But I'd like to test the clevo vbios even if i know that anybody hasn't arrived to dump it with software existing tools... I will try the inferno forum...

I just want to clarify one thing, I want to flash the card with clevo vbios JUST to get my display fonctionnal, and NOT for the full speed fan... I know that it won't change anything as it is EC computer that handles it... and the dell card give wrong info to g73's EC

 

Il make you a auto exec file , so you could put the vbios file and the ati flash + autoexec so it will automatically flash the vbios , its easy.
let me know
when you get the vbios.

 

and : your g73 heatsink mod looks insane I like it , and also what did you do with the cpu heatsink ?
and is it a 16gb corsair ram kit?

 

my heatsink is not very clean but he's working perfetcly !
on furmark, I never go above 90°C @850 mhz on gpu...
On the cpu, I just put a passive dissipator with thermal paste in contact with the copper... made me win 5 degrees when [email protected]... with throttlestop benchmark 1024M, i go up to 90-92 degrees (before, 95-97)
And yes, you have good eyes, it's a 16gb corsair kit !

 

I hope 7970M will work with G73JH
I don't understand what you say about EC
Your which display output is dead? in G73 or Clevo?
Did GPU work normal on clevo/asus or dell notebook? maybe not display/screen but its card or bios problem ?
And after connect GPU to G73 how it works? full or normal working fan? there is nothing on the screen,isn't it?

 

Alright, stay on topic folks and until we have an example of it working perfectly, better to assume it won't work so you won't be disappointed.

 

If the card posts on an external monitor that is a 1-1 for us and haters: )
I think its a bios issue.

 

Looks like its a fake file

 

I've tried the vbios on the card (Iknow, it's a little bit crazy!) and it didn't work at all. The vbios size was 64kb when mine was 128kb. Itried anyway and nothing displayed anymore.

My luck was that I've been able to blind reflash the stock vbios, and the card work as it worked before...
So, i'm now in a dead end for upgrading the dell7970m in my asus g73jh...
Perhaps with an alienware screen ? maybe wires are linked a different way (I don't believe it too much but maybe !)

I think I'm gonna try an exchange later with someone with an alienware and the 7970m from eurocom/clevo or trying to resell the card...
Only after i would be certain that the card is fully working (I plan to test it this week in a m18x system)

 

The Clevo vbios is correct guys but you need a machine with Optimus to run the Clevo 7970M.

I flashed my Dell 7970M into Clevo in my MSI 16F2 and it results in a blank screen too.
However when I tried it into the new MSI GT70 Barebone (with Optimus) and M18xR2, that was perfectly fine.

Trying the Clevo gpu won't help, I think you're in a dead end.

 

I think the iGPU function that the G73JH doesn't have is causing all the troubles, since the Clevo Card comes with Enduro enabled.

 

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...this thread is what is making me not sell my laptop and buy a sager...this NEEDS to work...I love my laptop...but I hate lag. What are the actual possibilities of it being a monitor problem, and you just need to swap screens?

 

The g73jh does have the igpu fonction in the bios. For the i3, i5 and i7 620m processor...
Maybe with one of those the display will be able to show something...
But, before going in this way, I have some tests to do with the card :
- plug in an alienware screen in the g73 motherboard
- test the card with an alienware system.

but most probably, this is the optimus-like (enduro) ati tech that isn't compatible with the bios, that is blocking the upgrade, like hackness said... and in this case, whatever card provider won't do anything... the upgrade will end with a fail

 

But if that's the case in still wondering why the card works perfectly in a m17xr2 and a M15x.......................

.........and also why the laptop displays normally with the hdmi out............................

 

My AW has iGPU and that did not have any effect on the 6970m working in the G73.

Could be hardware related as it has been pointed out some pins might not be as on a standard MXM socket. Might need to wait for a better vbios to come out. What drivers did you use ? hope not someting from a dell :/.

If the GPU works in 2d and not 3d then it would be more related to driver issue.

 

Uh, because they are using the Dell 7970M on a Dell laptop? They are trying to use a Clevo vBios on this.

 

uh... they're also made with the same hm55 chipset... with the same integration of igpu, and of course, with the same theorical enduro incompatility...
That would mean that enduro isn't interfering about the 7970m on hm55 based laptops...
About the clevo vbios, pow1au tested it, and apparently, had the same issue I had...

Lot of questions are still not resolved...
That's why those communities are usefull !

 

So what if they are using the same HM55 or not, virtually every notebook that year that had a discrete GPU used that chipset.

And Asus did not implement all that chipset had to offer. Face it, just get a new notebook instead of wasting this enormous amount of time and money on trial and error. Amount of time you've wasted probably could have earned money and the amount money already spent, could have just bought another laptop.

 

By the way did the HD 6970M come with Enduro? I thought the first release was with the HD 7000 series o_o

 

HD 6970M did not have enduro. Enduro is new to just the HD7xxx. Doesn't matter since Asus has never implemented switchable graphics on their G series. And they couldn't even get the memory to change frquencies on the 5870M... they are pathetic.