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    ATI HD 7970M ON ASUS G73Jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by new2019, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. hackness

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    Now this leaves some possible reasons that why the HD 7970M isn't working on the G73JH and worked on an AW with iGPU.

    1. HD 6970M wasn't using Enduro, so it works in the G73JH
    2. AW has an iGPU so HD 7970M works in them.
    3. HD 7970M doesn't output anything as a primary GPU when the screen connection is directly attached to the HD 7970M. (On Enduro laptops it's managed by the iGPU like on Optimus)

    Do you guys think the above 3 points could be valid?
     
  2. Zymphad

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    I think it doesn't matter, it's a waste of time and money. Even if it worked, you wouldn't get the full benefit of it. Something would be broken and Enduro wouldn't work anyway.
     
  3. sosa106

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    How dare I say...

    the g73jh does have the igpu fonction in bios. When I've been playing in bios option with amibcp, I've seen in the chipset tab all different option available when you have the correct cpu. I just need a i3 3x0m or i5 5xm or i7 6x0m to be able to display with it. this issue is most probably caused by dell's card, which want to display to a non compatible's g73 output...

    I think finally there is nothing to do with enduro, and if it were the case, barebones like msi 16f2 or AW m15x/m17xr2/m17xr3/m18xr1 wouldn't work as they are not enduro complient...

    plus, I've said I also tried the card on a w860cu v2 laptop, and the issue was the same... this laptop HAVE igpu fonction too ;)

    Then, I spend my time and money as I want, upgrading the g73jh has been really funny over the years for me and if the card worked well on the very first time, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't say the same :)

    ps: for now, it only cost me the card's price... and perhaps a new cpu i3 330m on ebay at 20eur soon to be sure this isn't igpu that is the problem...
     
  4. hackness

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    Well you'll have to figure out a way to set the iGPU in the i7 620M the primary GPU, as if you are trying to find out if the missing iGPU from the CPU is causing the troubles.

    Edit: Looks like it's quicker than a 8400GS :D.
    i7-620Mに内臓されているGPUの性能について教えてください。 - Yahoo!知恵袋
     
  5. @tilla

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    Forget about iGPU testing.
    There are a bit more hardware related things, that the G73JH doesn't fulfill. (e.g. multiplexer)
    The things you see in AMIBCP are nice, but have no effect. It's not just BIOS editing. :)

    IMHO a Dell 7970 just seems not working in the JH.
    Maybe a Clevo one would be more promissing. But I'd heard of problems with Clevo's 7970m.

    BTW: You got a picture on a HDMI connection?
     
  6. Meaker@Sager

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    7970M works without enduro in 16F2 (it has no integrated graphics).
     
  7. evgasr2

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    @sosa106 ,
    if you dump your vbios of dell hd 7970m I could remove the hd 5870m vbios from bios and replace it with hd 7970m so we could have a hope .
    thanks
     
  8. hackness

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    Hopefully it works :D By the way you can keep 2 vbios in the bios like on the G75VW bios, so can do insert straight, only need to input the vendor ID and the device ID, and if HD 7970M fails you can still swap back to HD 5870M.
     
  9. evgasr2

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    ok found out the reason why clevo vbios doesnt work on dell card, its because both has diffrent vram chips , samethign happened to me , I flashed clevo vbios in dell card and it bricked it , so I bought a new card , it was a clevo , so I flashed dell vbios on to it , then it bricked my clevo card , but however I was able to recover with blind flash.
    so clevo/ msi is the key for Asus g73jh .
     
  10. sosa106

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    Hi all

    Just to say that i'm gone on the dark side... just bought a new laptop : m18xr2
    I won't giving up on trying upgrading this wonderfull laptop (g73 of course ;) ) but i will now take more time and I'm gonna wait on rainy days to work on it ! ^^
     
  11. Zymphad

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    How much time and money have you wasted now?
     
  12. hackness

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    None I believe, he's still trying it but not anytime soon.
     
  13. Zymphad

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    He must have pressed post right before I did. Was talking about evga, with his two 7970Ms that he bricked and then wasted time to blind flash one of em back and it's still not working.
     
  14. hackness

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    He's talking about his dell HD 5870M and clevo HD 5870M :D He hasn't tried a HD 7970M yet.
     
  15. evgasr2

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    @hackness thanks
     
  16. Zymphad

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    FYI there are MUCH MUCH faster HD5870M than yours. Seen one with 950/1300 clocks from the AW and Clevo forums.
     
  17. Yiddo

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    it can clock @950/1300 but bench scores are way less than mine , im first in the hwbot32 bench site with hd 5870m , and svl7 is second .
    look at this:
    [​IMG]
     
  19. hackness

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    I think that 950/1300 probably throttles during benchmarking :D
     
  20. svl7

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    Ahem... View attachment 79142

    ... just saying. And that was with 11.5 drivers or something like this. I guess I could beat 11k GPU when I still had the card.
     
  21. evgasr2

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    if I had my dell card I could have done 910 / 1300 .
     
  22. Zymphad

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    Honestly to anyone that wants a 7970m, just upgrade. I've been an Asus G series.use Fr nearly a decade and can't say I've ever been as satisfied as I have been when ordering my p150em, to truly get what you want for a price you can understand.

    From my G73JH using Keyboard
     
  23. Yiddo

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    Still nice to see the 5870M making an appearance though :)

    I still remember its release, an almighty card!
     
  24. evgasr2

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    I couldnt increase the mem because my voltage was stuck at 1.1 with msi vbios , just flashed with clevo and increased the clocks ,
    so here comes the beast :
    [​IMG]
    edit: and also temps didnt jump over 76oC at vantage .
     
  25. sosa106

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    As Hackness said, I'm still trying upgrading this laptop...

    And fortunatly (but not for me...) the card didn't worked when I tried it in the m18x...
    The system post, but didn't displays anything, like in the g73jh and the clevo w860cu...
    This means the upgrade should work well, as my card has a non working out display. and I got in my hands a dead card.... :'(

    If anyone could go on this upgrade, I think it's worth it, and I think it would work... as said earlier in this thread, I can't see why the card would n't work on the g73. I will now return my g73 to the 6970m.
    It's now up to you guys ;) !!!

    btw, nice bench's and oc's with yours 5870m !!! ;)
     
  26. evgasr2

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    cant you return your broken hd 7970m and get a replacement for it ?
     
  27. asha1997

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    Anybody get successful results? I hate to say Sosa that I'm glad that the card was dead, and not a g73...I am sorry, but that gives us all a little more hope.
     
  28. Zymphad

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    No it doesn't. Just reaffirms some people just wasted money and time. Why don't you guys just have a dance around a bonfire burning your money, seems to be as worthwhile doing than what you are doing now, since so desperate to throw your money away.
     
  29. Crogge

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    Because people love custom creations, clicking on a simple "ORDER" button for a new notebook which has already a 7970M inside is only for noobs.
     
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  30. sosa106

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    very constructive post... much appreciated...
    That's why some people don't wan't to share their experience with people like this...
    I'm fed up with such free judgement, and tired of always having this ugly feeling of justifying myself...
    I LIKE MODDING MY LAPTOP, I DON'T NEED YOUR APPROVAL AND YOUR UNCONSTRUCTIVE ARGUMENT

    for the rest, it's a possible upgrade, and I will test very soon with a fully fonctionnal 7970m dell card from my m18x in the g73jh...
     
  31. Yiddo

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    While I do not agree with the do not bother modding because you are burning your money vibe I have to agree that you need to be fully aware that you are most likely going to fail 1st time round, unless you have the money to burn it is not worth risking.

    Implementing the 7970M is not going to be a lot different to the 6970M you need to mod the heatsink and make sure all sections are cooled and then trial and error and flash to get it fully working, the fact that only a few have managed to get the 6970M working in the JH and double that amount burned through cards trying is evidence enough and it also means that you need to be 100% sure you can afford and are happy to burn the card before ordering one and attempting it, that is all.

    I would be two faced to say don't bother doing it when my JH was in pieces the majority of the time :) but for novices or those that just want a 7970M you would be much better off going for a Sager/Clevo with ease of access to change components.
     
  32. sosa106

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    ;) I've already upgrade to 6970m few months ago thanks to some guys in NBR that succeed to do this upgrade, and detailed it... I have a modded heatsink with furmurk running max at 90 °C with the 6970m @ 850 / 975
    The 7970m is running a lot cooler than the last gen ATI cards... so, the temperature would'nt be an issue...
    I think many people would be happy in upgrading their g73jh with the latest gen cards... After all, it would run a lot better than the new g75 ;) !!! and, it's my opinion, it's funny (except when it didn't work :L)
     
  33. Zymphad

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    Along with the 7970M, you get a far superior screen, far superior keyboard, a touchpad that works for everyone and not just a few, 4-4.5 hour battery, and it will be upgradeable since this thread is all about being able to upgrade, instead of using your money as useful as wiping up horse dung in a stall...

    Hmm, in the long run get a laptop that is cheaper, upgradeable and faster or throw my money in a dung pit... Hmmm....

    As for considering throwing your money away burning HD7970Ms as modding your laptop?

    My Sager will have that is different from stock:
    95% Matte Screen
    120GB mSATA drive SATA 3 (6GB/S, 500mb/s read and write)
    16 GB of G-Skill CL9
    750GB of Hybrid XT Drive
    Intel 6235 WiFi/Bluetooth
    AMD 7970M
    Prolimatech PK-1 Grease
    Phobya Therma Pad XT 7w/mk

    This machine is far more customized than my G73JH could ever be... And most of the above I'll be doing myself and not just pointing and clicking and pressing submit.

    Oh and guess what? My upgrades will work. I'm not throwing my money away. By default it has a GTX 670M, but upgrading it to 7970M... OMG it actually works!

    Lastly, doing modifications/upgrades to my laptop and doing maintenance work won't void my warranty like it would with Asus.
     
  34. @tilla

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    @hulawafu77
    You are cool and we not.
    You don't get the point why updating this G73.
    Check out the Sager/Clevo forum and be happy.

    @sosa106
    Good infos and still the hope for a veteran notebook. ;)
    +rep
     
  35. evgasr2

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    @hwlawafu77 why do you bother to say that your clevo is better than asus, im not saying your clevo suk, but , the point is , if you say that your clevo is better , then go post everywhere on clevo section , this is a upgrading info thread , so dont post UN-necessarly .

    hope you understand what I say.

    @sosa106
    just keep trying :D
    just keep trying :D
    just keep trying :D
    just keep trying :D
    just keep trying :D
     
  36. Yiddo

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    Valient and faithful modders are hard to be beaten ;)

    Just make sure you have paid the rent and done your food shopping first. :)
     
  37. gilkovitch

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    hi all, many thanks for your update work ! don't read this bad post and good luck for this 7970m upgrade ;)
     
  38. sosa106

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    Hi all !!!
    I'm back with very good news !

    I confirm it was my card that has main display out dead, and this card is working wonderfully in a m18x as a secondary card ;) (plus, it oc well ;) ) !!
    Today, it was a rainy day on my place, so, i've been repasting the alienware system with IC7, and then I tried the first 7970m card on the g73jh...

    IT'S WORKING the pc did boot, I also have my drivers issue (I have to make a clean install) but we know now that THIS UPGRADE WORKS !
    BTW STILL NEED SOME TESTS TO CHECK IF IT'S WORKING 100%
    PLEASE WAIT A LITTLE MORE BEFORE TRYING THIS UPGRADE ON YOUR OWN !

    Now that I know it's ok, I'm gonna check from clevo's card to finalize my g73jh upgrades :D

    Thanks to all of you who helped in this upgrade ;)

    seeya
     
  39. VSSS

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    hi
    those are damn good news, let me know everything is like the fan data, hdmi, and further,
    Thanks again for the best information
     
  40. Yiddo

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    seeya?

    You are going to have to do better than that my friend firstly proof and then glory to these people who have been waiting to hear this.

    If the 7970M does indeed work in the JH that is major news as it would be the perfect upgrade.

    Please post any problems or issues and the temps you are seeing at idle and load and then the following when you have the time:

    HWINFO sensors, 3DMark06 , 3DMark11, 3DMark Vantage, Heaven 2.0 and Furmark results.
     
  41. Cheeseman

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    His intend was to first confirm if this specific card is recognized by the laptop (obviously some proof would be appreciated). For him to fully test the G73JH with the HD 7970M he'd probably want first purchase a separate card that he can dedicate to the G73JH, because he states that his previous HD 7970M was defective and to perform this test he had to rely on a second card he temporary removed from his Alienware laptop. My guess is that he can't have a none functioning M18x, so the card will probably have to be switched back, while having the benefit of using the original card with a broken display out in SLi configuration instead. Since it would require him to again mod the heatsink, re-paste the GPU and do a clean install I too would rather see further testing done through a Clevo/Sager card instead.
     
  42. sosa106

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    Fan is 100%, it's a known issue from all previous dell cards upgrade. On this day, there is no way to resolve this issue... only clevo cards worked well on g73jh. we'll know someday if it's still the case or not.

    hdmi works and the audio with the hdmi out works too. With my 6970m from clevo, it didn't. I had to flash it with a dell vbios to have hdmi working... but the audio didn't work... There is also no solutions for this as far as I know...

    and further... when the next rainy day will appear ;) I'm in holydays now, and I won't have a lot of time for testing : summer time, barbecues and many others !!!
     
  43. Yiddo

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    Cool good to know it turns on just before shouting:

    ....and people begin rushing out to spend 300-400 £'s or Euro's on one like they did when someone shouted this on the 6970M post nothing has been confirmed fully working yet as it has not been tested :) Still need to see some solid stress tests.
     
  44. oqix

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    Great! Functionality of HDMI video and audio is very important to me. Finally it came time to upgrade my G73Jh. Thanks for the good news Sosa106. Rep+.
     
  45. Yiddo

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    As above however no testing has been done on the card at all, most cards will turn on and show functionality but so far tests on the card have led to it frying so as above I would wait for results before you go rushing out and buying one there is no point having a 7970M just for the sake of it turning on you need it to be able to game over long periods of time stable.
     
  46. evgasr2

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    we just need to know if its posts or not , if it does , then it would be working like beast , he passed the first test , so there wont be any other issues for sure.

    edit: those kind of probs comes due to heat , all we need is " the hd 7970m should work on Asus G73jh "
    and also this card consumes less current than hd 6990 and produce less heat , so the chances to blew up the card with heat is very less.
     
  47. Yiddo

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    Wrong, posting means nothing in comparison to if the card actually works several 6970M posted and even worked for a day or two and then it popped when put under stress the chap that just posted "it does work" blew his first card which is a warning in its self. At idle the card is drawing very little power and producing very little heat and there is minimal stress on the card although I do not doubt it will work people should be wary until someone has the minerals to actually test it to arms length.
     
  48. sosa106

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    It's exactly this !
    But for the community, I will testing more...
    Give me a week or two (I'm in holydays so I will move out a little) and I will be able to make pictures of the install, reinstall win7, give you temps, anf if they're ok, stressing gpu a little...
    I understand that many of you are waiting for more to upgrade their laptop, that's why I will do this... :)
     
  49. Yiddo

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    +1. Then you can shout out in bold writing that it works in a JH :D
     
  50. oqix

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    Don't worry Yiddo I have good experience with upgrade and modification, but yes this upgrade is not for everyone, at least not now.
    Fan speed is not an issue. I'm using my own thermal regulator for both CPU and GPU.
    In couple of days I will finish my cooling modification with peltier cooler on GPU and I'll be ready for testing a new card.
     
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