An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

GPU is at stock voltage, CPU is undervolted to 1.175.

The picture in my sig is almost correct except for the temperatures and GPU clocks.

And my 3DMark is a little old.

I'll get read for a cold boot now and post the temps.

 

Well......my definition of cold boot is the idle temp after the laptop has been off for a while. IMO, thats the only really good way to make sure the idle temps aren't being raised by heat lingering from programs that you were running before,

 

Everything had been off since my last post for these temperatures:

0/1: 45C and 43C

GPU: 47C

 

Well.....then I still got you beat.....my cold boot temps this morning were at

CPU 44C/45C
HDD 29C
GPU 42C

And also, I never knew that you're in Baltimore. I'm actually in it too until end of this month when I'll go to Philly

 

For college?

Sucks dude, nothing beats Baltimore. I'm following my girlfriend up to Saint Francis in P.A. next year. I hate leaving my football and crabs.

Congrats on your GPU temps beating mine, ha ha.

 

Yah.....going to the University of Pennsylvannia....

Anyways, you really like Baltimore? I mean its fine if you live in the suburbs, which I do, but IMO, it would be alot nicer living in like Montgomery County or Howard County......

Edit:

Just to make this post not entirely OT, I am going to attach my new vBIOS to the main guide shortly.

Just know that although it appears to be running fine, I have not fully confirmed its stability yet.

Edit 2:

Wow.....just realized that I don't have it with me so I'll attach it tonight.

 

I love it. I mean, don't get me wrong, I know where the bad areas are and I don't go there.

Most of it <_<

But Canton/Fell's Point/Federal Hill/The Inner Harbor can't be beat. And most of the city is safe in the day light. Don't get me wrong, I live in Dundalk (about a five minute drive out of the city), but that's where I was born and spent the first few years of my life.

Plus, this whole "Urban Revival" thing going on is forcing most of the poor and the crime out of the city and in to the counties. Too bad a townhome in Federal Hill costs about 600,000$,

On topic:

New 3DMark scores after my memory speed increase to 950 were about 40 points; nothing to big.

 

hmmm impressive temps you guys are getting... soo, i guess it will make the hardware survive longer ? =P

and, i guess its pretty safe to download Tevas Bios and flash into mine? since both GPU's are the same...

 

It should be perfectly safe to flash the NEWBIOS.rom that I have attached to my guide (first post, look at the very bottom). It has dropped CPU temps down by between 5-8C for me across the board.

I will attach another vBIOS later on tonight with lower voltages but I haven't fully confirmed its stability yet.

 

Wait, the vBIOS you poted also brings CPU temps down?

I thought the pipeline fed from the CPU to the GPU, not the other way around; how did the CPU temps drop that much with a GPU BIOS mod?

 

Haha.....I meant across 3DMark06, gaming, idle temps, etc.....not CPU temps.

CPU temps have basically remained the same since.

 

Now that makes sense. I was thinking "That must be one hell of a vBIOS" for a second there.

 

Still, 5-8C lower for the GPU is one hell of a vBIOS =)

Ill try your new vBIOS later then Tevas, and Im planning on getting a new HD and make RAID 0 on my notebook, will be doing this next week i guess.. =)

 

Ambient 72F, and I'm chilling at CPU 33/32, GPU 49, and both harddrives at 35.

I love undervolting. Also can't wait until those damned copper blocks come.

 

Neither can I. Make sure you let us know what you do step-by-step. If it all works out I might do the same.

 

Didn't read thorugh all 40+ pages of this thread so forgive me if my question was already asked. But to clarify what I read those VBios will both overclock the GPU to stock clocks and undervolt it so it can still be semi-cool?

 

Wow, 35*C on the HDD? Now theres something for me to beat. I better get my HDD cooling mod up and ready so I can start shattering records. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=408054

 

I've heard Clevo's heating issues reside in the hard drive cooling. Probably not as bad, proportionally, as the G51, but there you go. Well, in that link you posted someone's hit 70C. Yow.

 

That's up to you. You can lower the voltages on the GPU, but you might not be able to overclock as much. I know Tev both underclocks and undervolts his 260.

 

You're only hitting 29C with your processor?

The hell am I doing wrong then?

Edit: Forgot that you used new thermal paste.

 

Such as it is. He can only nominally overclock last I checked. Moving core from 500 to 507 isn't really much of an overclock.

But since the vast majority of games run fine at those underclocks, the cooling is far more attractive.

On the other hand, my processor is a 44 TDP X9100.
Well, it's undervolted to 1.163 though.

 

All except Crysis. The thing that will be affected most are the benchmarks, but you'll still be able to game just fine.

 

That's soon going to change. My 7200.4 idles at 38*C in 21*C ambient. 3*C is well within reach with a cooling mod. Though all of you guys will still beat my notebook in the weight department. It's not easy having a 4.5kg+ notebook.

 

Personally, or is Clevo going to address the problem?

 

In Clevo's 15 incher, it's a problem. Clevo's larger notebooks don't have this issue, but my goal as a Clevo Crusader is to trump heat in it's tracks.

If that guy that wrapped his HDD in aluminium baking foil can shave 5*C off his HDD load temps, I can shave off even more.

 

Well, you'll have a true desktop replacement.

As in you'll not want to move it.

And my blocks haven't even been shipped yet. Tape, yes, blocks, no.

 

The vBIOS that I have attached to the first post is undervolted and runs at the stock clocks of the GTX 260M within the G51, ie it has the same clocks as it did when you first took the laptop out of the box.

With the undervolt, though, it overclocks very poorly and I am very doubtful as to whether it can achieve an overclock up to the stock GTX 260M clocks on the Sager NP8662

 

My M570TU is actually smaller and lighter, not anymore though, than the G71. From my observation, G71 users don't mind carrying their notebooks around with them. I take my notebook wherever I need it while putting Apple users in their place, and it isn't dependant on a notebook cooler like the G71.

 

Or a G51. With the right undervolting and mods I'm sure I can get satisfactory temperatures in almost all games without a cooler. Then again coolers never hurt, and I have one that's moderately portable.

 

Hmm.....some concern:

It appears that if I overclock my GPU to 507/899/1267 and run 3DMark06, I don't get a SM2.0 score.

I get a SM2.0 score while going through 3DMark06 stock.

Right now I'm running through 3DMark06 at only 507/799/1267 and see how that is faring.

I played like 20 minutes of GTA IV this morning at stock clocks and undervolted to the 0.70v vBIOS and it seemed fine.

Any thoughts on how that could be happening? Is it just the fact that I was pushing the RAM too much at the lower voltages?

 

Mine are perfectly acceptable, I think. I turned FurCube on a little while ago at 1366x768 and 8xMSAA and put some space between the table and the laptop (better airflow) and my temps topped out at 87C then fell and held at 85C.

Placed on the table it stayed at 87C.

 

Okay....it was due to the memory. I put the memory back down to 799Mhz with the core/shader overclocked at it went through fine.

 

100Mhz is a pretty big jump anyway.

Anything smaller than that is barely worth the trouble to see if it's stable.

 

Does anyone know why nTuneCmd.exe pops up and causes lag spikes?

I don't know when this started happening, but nTuneCmd keeps popping up and causing serious lag; my pointer'll start lagging really bad, etc..

It's making it hard to do anything.

Any ideas?

 

So I'm watching the new episode of Psych(TV show on the USA Network) and I saw that Gus had an Asus! Just thought you guys kight find that tid-bit interesting...

 

Hey im watchin that too

 

Ah, nevermind, answered my own question.

I had set nTune to overclock the GPU after the CPU had been active for 15 seconds and to downclock after is went in to power saving after 15 seconds.

nTune, I guess, would keep popping up to see if I was doing something CPU intensive, bogging down my laptop.

 

good ol' ntune, always there to look out for ya!

 

Just for my own knowledge, SetFSB also overclocks the RAM speeds, right?

So my 800Mz RAM is running at 1333MHz?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5200215&postcount=1573

 

OMG I TOTALLY NOTICED THAT AND WENT OMG!!!!

 

So I did undervolted my GPU..., I followed the incredible/amazing Tevas guide ... As always, very easy to follow and do it ( Only little problem was that i didnt know i had to get the USB above the hard drive in the Hard Drives part of the BIOS, i thought all i had to do was to select "Removable Devices" in boot priority )

anyways... now i have a question, is there any way to knows what Voltage am i using while in Windows? I did create my own vBIOS, i set it 0.9V/0.8V/0.8V/0.75V, but idle temps and full load temps seens to be the same

 

Scratch what I just posted about my temperatures not changing ...

At 0.9V/0.8V/0.8V/0.75V my temps didnt change only at idle, because at gaming, its pure awesomeness =D I mean, doing the Resident Evil 5 benchmark, I didnt hit 90C anytime, which means my fans never made it full speed, and i got an average temp. of 82C ( Its WAY LOWER )... I got lower fps score, but i guess its the variable thing...

One thing is bugging me though, I used EVGA Precision tool to monitor my temps, since i can see it in real-time, it helps alot, the only question is, does it Overclock the GPU automatically? Look the screen...


Stock config... right?


is it overclocked?

 

EVGA doesn't overclock unless you tell it to, no. Even when I tried to use it it didn't work.

500/1250/799 are the stock Asus GTX 260m settings, which are underclocked from the standard 550/1375/950 clocks.

With the lower voltages, you'll notice you'll be barely able to overclock. Tev could only push his core clock to 507. I could only push mine to 519.

 

Yah... I guess EVGA is just showing the wrong clocks, but im kinda sad now, my GPU isnt stable at 0.9V for 3D Applications ='(

After TF2 closing on me twice, i decided to check it using ATITool, lots of artifacts detected while undervolted, flashed to 0.95V/0.8V/0.8V/0.75V and now it looks like stable, ATITools running for 10 minutes and no artifacts detected.. will do more testing now...

 

It looks like you got one of those Friday night cards, SirHase.

 

Bah SirHase......well, 0.90v seems to be too low in voltage for you then......

Anyways, I don't believe you can see GPU voltages through Windows. The only way to tell is if it becomes unstable or you see a drop in temperatures

 

Or you can record your current BIOS with GPU-Z and open it in NiBiTor.

Poor SirHase. Looks like he can only use stock voltages.

 

Yah, I think I do... ( hmm.. wth a Friday night card mean? )

but .Im pretty sure now i was running undervolted, my temperature was a dream... I think i could play some games without a problem while undervolted, since the RE5 and 3DMark 06 didnt gave me any error... but i like to stay on the stable side..

and, what about making my voltages like 0.93V? I remember Soviet talking about that, but I dont actually get that Is it possible?

Ps.: @0.95V/0.8V/0.8V/0.75V It looks like stable, but, my temps still all the same -_-

 

Self-explanatory. Friday night is right before the weekend. People who are working right before the weekend will tend to say "screw it" when it comes to quality. After all, they just want to get home.

Soviet wrote a .92v vBIOS for me, but it didn't work. I couldn't sign onto Vista.

It's because your heavy-duty voltages are still the same. You should be idling at better temperatures, though.