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    An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by TevashSzat, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. TevashSzat

    TevashSzat Notebook Deity

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    Well....its weird, I'd get the undervolt at some times and not at others....I'm looking into other options right now....

    Edit:

    I finally got the chance to hook up my laptop to my 42" plasma TV via HDMI and I must tell you, it looks absolutely fantastic.....I'm not sure if I can ever go back to a pitiful 15.6" again........
     
  2. SirHase

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    @Forge
    wow, nice tool, thanks for the tip =)

    And the thing is, while doing the Resident Evil 5 benchmark, 90C I hit only for half a sec, its when the fan kicks full speed, and the temperatures decrease until 82C, then the fan slow down and temperature increase again -_- It did this cycle twice, one at the second area, and one at the last area...

    Not stable temps tbh, always going up and down, up and down.. And the temps goes up and down, up and down.. la la la..

    =D Weird how Crysis max my GPU temps at 77C o_O
     
  3. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    3DMark was like that, sort of (if you read the post I made a couple pages back).

    After application of my new TIM, I would slowly climb until I hit my max (usually 88 or 87), and then the fan kicking in would stabilize me a degree lower until the test ended.

    This is some awesome stuff. Next on my list is a copper-block mod like Soviet was showcasing.


    By the way Hase, in your signature it looks like Win 7 is your "SO"


    EDIT: Took the time to run another 3DMark06 test. Testing conditions are the same, except for the fact that my room is maybe 1-1.5C warmer than the time I ran the previous test. I maxed out 90C twice, on Firefly Forest and Deep Freeze. (Total time I was at 90C was maybe twenty to thirty seconds)

    My temperatures are about two degrees warmer than the test with freshly-applied MX-3. Is it possible that I applied wrong, and that the cooler temperature was an anomaly, or will the temperature variance give me that big of a change?

    Under identical setup, I'm idling at CPU = 40/39 and GPU = 55. Last night was 37/38 and 50.

    EDIT2: I'll be opening the computer--yet again--so I can measure the clearances for a copper-block mod. I'll take a peek at the pasted areas and see if I've done it right, and if I didn't, re-apply.


    EDIT3: Noticing that as I approach the temperatures of last night's test my idling temperatures are going down as well. I'll run a trial in another hour and see what happens.
     
  4. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    SirHase. I see you have an Acer netbook. May I ask when you were shopping for your netbook, did you look at models from other companies like Asus or Dell or Lenovo? What specifics were you looking for in a netbook? I ask this because I plan to invest in one as well.
     
  5. Y_Double

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    Is that with all settings maxed out(i.e AAx8,everything on high,etc.)?It would be impressive if that's the case.Follow Forge's advice,but as of now,how would U say these temps compare to your Crysis' temps?
     
  6. SirHase

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    @Forge
    Ops... :eek:
    I got confused with this SO thing =P SO is how we say OS in Portuguese :p

    @Soviet Sunrise
    I just bought the cheapest model available here with good HDD capacity, since I need one just for really low demanding things, its good.. Its more like a 160GB pen-drive that does fancy stuffs :p

    @Y_Double
    AA was at 16X :p
    Check it out:
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  7. MooCwzRck

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    Yeah, I just found out that Best Buy is getting this nice 1080p higher end Insignia LCD 42 inch, and with my discount I could get it for like 650...I think I know where half my student loan check is going...


    God DAMN I hate working where I love to shop...
     
  8. Y_Double

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    Well,thanx,and that's great.Perhaps it was just a slight,temporary problem on my desktop that created the slowdowns(the game is also optimized for nVidia,so perhaps the answer lies there too,as I'm using an HD4870.But still...).In any case,happy that my soon-to-come G51 will handle it without any trouble.

    Oh,and by the way,at least "SO" is close to "OS",what about in French with "SE" :p .
     
  9. TevashSzat

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    @Forge

    What were your clocks during this temps? You're still running the GPU undervolted right?

    If thats the case, then all that excess heat would be from your CPU right? I never go above 84C in 3DMark06 now even with everything overclocked.

    Anyways, my GPU idle temps have gone as low as 49C and it is usually in the low 50s
     
  10. Soviet Sunrise

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    The last time I checked, he was running at factory voltage.
     
  11. TevashSzat

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    Okay.....then that explains it since something like a 8-9C increase just from an upgrade in CPU would've been quite scary......
     
  12. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Yup, all stock.

    I really should have just gone for a P9700, hah hah. Well, I am running at 2.79 GHz @ 1.163 volts. It's more than enough.
     
  13. a3r0x

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    Do you know when the price of that CPU should start to fall?
     
  14. Soviet Sunrise

    Soviet Sunrise Notebook Prophet

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    Mobile CPU's rarely drop in price. Wait for a nice one to pop up on eBay and snipe it.
     
  15. SoundOf1HandClapping

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  16. Nothing is Real

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    Why is it that I deleted SetFSB from my computer, but my G71's CPU is still clocked at 2888.3MHz?
     
  17. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Do you have the Asus turbo software active at startup?
     
  18. Nothing is Real

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    I just restarted my computer for the fourth time, and now the CPU is at normal speeds... i have no idea what is going on :)
     
  19. TevashSzat

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    Anyways just to let you guys know, stock GPU clocks running at 0.90v peaked at 85C after about 2 hours of GTA IV. Very satisfied I must say......

    Still too lazy to find out the minimum voltage for 3D and Throttle.....probably gonna do that over the weekend or something....

    @Nothing is Real

    I've found that SetFSB's overclock stays if you rebooted really quickly so yeah.....
     
  20. Nothing is Real

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    k

    And for some reason when I OC at 2.91GHz my CPU stays at 70ºC instead of 60ºC like it used to. ??? The fans don't seem to go on high until it gets to 70ºC as well.
     
  21. TevashSzat

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    Umm....as in idle temps? Or under load temps?

    Overclocking will raise your temps but its usually not that bad though for some CPUs, the increase is pretty significant.
     
  22. Nothing is Real

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    While running Orthos blend the temps get to 69ºC on both cores. Yesterday they were only getting up to 62ºC. My house isn't 10ºC hotter today by the way, haha.

    Also, from what I remember yesterday, the low temps bottomed out at 47ºC; now they are at 41ºC, lol.
     
  23. Soviet Sunrise

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    How long did you run Orthos for?
     
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    I only did it for 5 minutes today since my temps were 1ºC away from 70ºC (I'm paranoid), but yesterday I ran it at the same CPU speeds for the entire Orthos cycle (12 minutes or something) and the temps were constant at < 61-63ºC.

    meh

    Could me having BSOD'd 2-3 times, because of my setfsb confusion, messed something up?
     
  25. TevashSzat

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    @Nothing

    Probably not

    Anyways, I've just flashed my GPU to 0.75v for 3D clocks and it seems to be stable right now. I'll update to confirm but if I'm correct, then Extra would require 0.90v while 3D/Throttle/2D can do fine at 0.75v.

    This makes me suspect that 2D at least should be able to run at 0.70v or even lower. So.....Soviet Sunrise, have any ideas on how to make the vBIOS lower? In NiBiTor, the lowest I can edit to is 0.75v.

    Edit:

    5 minute run through with Furmark and everything is stable. I guess that basically confirms it.

    Edit 2:

    I have attached a zip containing OLDBIOS.rom (stock vBIOS) and NEWBIOS.rom (0.90v Extra/ 0.75v 3D+Throttle+2D)
     
  26. Soviet Sunrise

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    I made this BIOS using your original, TevashSzat. The only thing I edited are the voltages.

    3D application: 0.9v
    3D desktop: 0.75v
    2D desktop: 0.75v
    Idle: 0.7v

    Again, I cannot guarantee that this BIOS will be stable as it has already failed in Forge's attempt. Be prepared for a force flash.

    The link to the BIOS attachment will be removed in 15 minutes.
     
  27. TevashSzat

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    Thanks, just running my new vBIOS through some things. Everything should be fine. If they are, I'll try your vBIOS out.

    Edit:

    For force flashing, would "nvflash OLDBIOS.rom" work or would I need those extra commands?

    Also, what were those commands? I can't seem to find them......
     
  28. Harkonnen

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    My temps get to 76 degrees while undervolted on a cooler and mX2 on the die. Relax. Just natural variation.
     
  29. Soviet Sunrise

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    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5189046&postcount=300
     
  30. TevashSzat

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    Played the Paradise Lost (Where Nomad emerges fro mthe alien building) chapter for Crysis at native res, no AA, super high textures, all else high.

    CPU is at stock clock/multiplier, downvolted to 1.250. GPU is at 550/1375/925 (Taking Soviet's advice that an upped memory clock increases heat for minimal performance boost.)

    Notebook on top of Zalman NC2000 cooler, fans off. Ambient temperature when I started the game was 81F

    Maxed out at 95C. Since EVGA Precision refuses to give me a readout in-game, I resorted to GPU-Z temperature log and graph. I stayed at 95C for about twenty seconds, whereupon I dropped to 93C and stabilized there with the occasional spike to 94C.
     
  32. TevashSzat

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    Just flashed to the bios with 2D at 0.70v.

    I have just booted up Windows Vista and logged in.

    Everything seems to be fine.

    Edit:

    Everything seems to be running fine. I think it might have worked Soviet!!!!!!!
     
  33. Soviet Sunrise

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    Could you double check if your GPU is running at it's lowest clocks?
     
  34. TevashSzat

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    It is running at 200 core and 120 memory, which is what the 2D clocks were set at.
     
  35. Soviet Sunrise

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    Okay, this BIOS is stable then.
     
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    Now if we can only get a voltage that supports standard clocks, we will all be happy.


    By the way, Tev, how's your idling temperatures?
     
  37. TevashSzat

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    Haha.....I wonder what GPU idle temps are now.....the lowest at 0.75v at 2D was 49C but that was from a cold boot.

    Right now, temps have dropped down to 51C and are still falling.
     
  38. Soviet Sunrise

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    Now all that's left is to underclock it and it's back to the ice age.
     
  39. TevashSzat

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    You mean underclock the 2D clocks? What clocks would you recommend for those?

    Anyways, GPU is now down to 50C.
     
  40. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    What's your ambient temperatures.

    (Great job, Soviet, you've turned me into an precision freak)
     
  41. Soviet Sunrise

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    I don't know how low your GTX 260M can go, but for my GTX 280M, my 2D clocks are set to 160/320/80 @ 0.7v. If I set it lower to 150/300/75, it will wake up cranky from sleep mode like my girl.
     
  42. TevashSzat

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    I don't know for sure (don't have a thermometer nearby) but I would say around 75 F.

    Right now, CPU Core 1 is 48C, Core 2 is 53C, GPU is 49C, and HDD is 41C

    The CPU is overclocked at 2.3Ghz right now. Right now, the fans have turned off completely. I guess I'll wait a few more minutes and then I'll find basically the true idle temps.

    Edit @ Sunrise:

    So.....how would you test the 2D scores then?

    Just put it to sleep and see how it comes out of it?
     
  43. Soviet Sunrise

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    In NiBiTor, I would set all of the levels to match the 2D level. Then when I test my lower clocks, I restrict my GPU fan to minimum speed and choke it by covering the main intake. Then I would fire up Furmark or OCCT for 10 minutes and see if it is stable at higher temperatures. Also, the 2D level is the only one that needs to be tested with sleep mode. The other levels you don't have to test unless you disabled PowerMizer.
     
  44. TevashSzat

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    Thanks, I'll probably do that tomorrow morning or night....

    Anyways, CPU is at 47C/52C, HDD is at 41C still, and GPU is at 48C!!!!

    That is lower than my temps from a cold boot (like 65F ambient) after letting it stay shutdown for a whole night.
     
  45. Soviet Sunrise

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    Ah, another happy customer.
     
  46. TevashSzat

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    Just did a cold boot and my temps were at CPU 44C/45C HDD 29C GPU 42C

    And also, Soviet why do you constantly change your avatar?
     
  47. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    His avatar is like his mood ring.
     
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    Haha, yeah, I can never recognize him whenever he posts...its like he's wearing a disguise...he stays hidden in the shadows, answering questions, helping solve issues, then disappearing into the darkness...dun dun dun....
     
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    <_<

    Hate to break it to you dude, but my temps are 47/47 for the CPU cores and 49C on the GPU in a 77F room after running FurCube and letting the GPU rest. And that's with the GPU overclocked passed what the true stock GTX clocks are and with the 7350 OC'd as high as it'll go.

    ... sorry man.

    Edit: Just dropped to 48C.
     
  50. TevashSzat

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    Sigh..... goes to edit photos of HWMonitor with photoshop......

    Is that at stock voltage or undervolted? How low do your cold boot temps go?

    And in my defense, I only let the laptop sit for about 20 minutes. I had been using it pretty intensively for like 3-4 hours beforehand.
     
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