An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

I plan to when my ICD7 and arctic clean arrive.

 

I think the "take-home" message thus far is that, with the current cooling solution, significant overclocking of the GPU seems inadvisable - unless you're OK with the GPU running 97c+. In contrast, 500Mhz core seems to produce low 90's (still very hot).

The CPU cooling seems quite robust however. As mentioned, my X9100 hit 3.5Ghz without difficulty, and with reasonable temps in Orthos (72c).

 

You might want to try stress testing your CPU on IntelBurnTest or OCCT. You should be able to push the temps a few degrees higher around 75*C.

 

@EIement

That is pretty high.....but I got 88C after one run of 3DMark06 before the undervolt so it isn't that bad per se.

Undervolting it will probably help your temps alot.

Your CPU temps, though, seem alot better than what the RX05s have been getting.


Regarding the optimization thing: I mean there is nothing inherently wrong about the G51 that requires you to do all these things. People like me do this because we're enthusiasts who like seeing their laptop perform at its maximum potential.

 

I do it because I'm bored.

 

I want to underclock my gpu...but I'll admit, I'm scared to do it. This laptop is WAY out of the league of anything else I own/have owned, so its precious to me =p

 

Well.......I undestand the hesitation of flashing the GPU since I was really afraid of bricking the GPU and such before flashing mine too. After you do it (which is really simply) it kinda doesn't seem that risky anymore.

 

ya, I know that after I do it, if I succeed it'll be no big deal. but its the doing it the first time that gets me. however, I did just play about 20 minutes of bioshock (more than last time) w/ a bit of air to the gpu (notebook cooler) and only hit 90C

 

First off, I just want to say half the reason I registered this account was to thank Tev, Forge, and Soviet for all the work they've put into this topic. I just picked up my Asus today without having checked out any reviews about it beforehand, and was Really glad to find a guide like this for OC'ing (had I not seen it, I probably would've just tried to use RivaTuner and failed miserably.)

The one question I did have is whether or not it's normal to see a huge performance increase between 2.4 GHz and 2.5 GHz. If I recall correctly, my benchmarks in 3Dmark06 jumped from about 8.9k to 11k just from that slight bit of OC'ing, whereas from 2.3 to 2.4 it was only a couple hundred points.

Below are the results I got from my test at 2.5; as much as I'd like to keep the CPU at 2.5 GHz, I'll probably lower it back down to 2.3 or 2.4 just to keep it from running so hot.

 

Hi Shirokuma. Welcome to NBR.

What did you expect when you overclocked your CPU to 2.5GHz? It's only ~5% increase from 2.4GHz. You're not supposed to expect much from it.

 

Soviet- he's saying he wasn't expecting it, but got an enormous (2.1k) 3DMark increase going from 2.4 to 2.5ghz

 

And I didn't expect much from 2.4 to 2.5. Thus why when my benchmark jumped from 8.9k to 11k I was shocked. Though I read earlier in the thread that someone was having issues with the power4gear energy plans overwriting the overclocking, so I'm currently in the process of tuning it down a bit to see if that was what the issue was.

 

Ah, I see. I just reread his post. That is a little unusual. It's probably his CPU throttling during the test from a conflict with another software. I need to stop opening so many tabs at night, haha.

 

Yeah, sorry about that, Shirokuma. 11k with a moderate overclock is a very strong score.

 

y the SetFSB i downloaded cannot be run properly? it keep on asking me enter the key!!!! anybody have solution?

 

Yeah, it seems that it was the energy plan messing with the marks, because I just lowered the settings on the GPU down to 549/845/1371 and CPU to 2.4 GHz and still got up to 10364. Sorry about that.

 

How are you temperatures with those clocks, Shirokuma?

 

The temps for the first were in the screenshot, this past one maxed at 84 for the GPU and 80 for the CPU, just set the CPU down to 2.3 and am about to try again.

 

Cores maxed at 79/80 and GPU at 83 that time, with the VID set at 1.138 for everything. Gonna see how much I can undervolt it now to try to drop the temperatures.

 

Isnt 80C for CPU extremely hot and dangerous? At 2.5Ghz I get max 70C, now Im playing only undervolted no overclock and maxing at around 62C...

GPU at 83C is good =)

 

For both the CPU and GPU, anything under 88*C is safe, but still hot. Under 80*C is the green zone.

 

Is this for the 3Dmark06 test or for actual gameplay? Like I said, I Just got this thing today, so I haven't even had a chance to set anything up on it.

I'll probably get back to working on undervolting tomorrow, the benchmark tests have my CPU and GPU running a little warm, so I'll work on it more in the morning when I've given the hardware a chance to cool down.

 

@Shiro
62C I hit while doing Orthos ...

Now I have something kinda strange,
[Edit]
I was looking at ALL my screen shots, since the first day I got this notebook, and my CPU temp for core #1 dont ever go lower than 57C, is it happening with you guys too? I mean, Im idling at 44C for the second core, and #1 keep at 57C? ALWAYS? weird -_-

Ps.: CPU core #2 does change temps like before...

 

Huh, I think I figured out why I'm getting such high temperatures; for some reason during Orthos tests (and I'm guessing during any stress in general) my VID jumps back up to 1.250. I used Tev's method for undervolting, applied the settings at 1.113, and have Multiplier Management checked. Am I just doing something wrong, or does that mean that the CPU can't handle those VIDs and automatically reverts itself since it's overclocked to 2.3 GHz?

 

well, I seem to be getting better temps today. Played 2 hours of fallout 3 and never broke 90C. Will try bioshock later. Oh, and did a full single player campaigne of L4D and topped out at 91C, @ highest settings.

 

lol


I'll post something actually worthwhile after work.

 

@Shirokuma
I saw that one of your screenshots, you have all 3 multipliers in Crystal CPUID like that: "Max, Midle, Minimun" set at 6.0X, can you make it 7.5X, 6.5X, and 6.0X? Hit apply and see if CPU-Z shows it...

 

I knew I made a stupid mistake somewhere, thank you. I was working on everything at like 11:30 at night last night, was kinda tired and completely missed that. Got Orthos running at the moment, and the CPU isn't going over 70.

 

Is it possible to change the temp at which the fan kicks in? I think I remember reading it somewhere but can't for the life of me figure out where.

 

I hate these kind of posts. Hey, did you notice the title of the thread?

No? OK, it's: An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

Get it? We want to push these machines to the edge. If that somehow bothers you, please take your finger-wagging grandfatherly advice elsewhere. This is a hobby for us.

BTW, I have a Honda S2000 that I supercharged and now has 400hp. Gee, Dad, was that OK to do? I mean, it was already optimized, right?

 

If you want to help, that's fine. But stop being an *** about it. No one cares about how big your e-peen is or how well you know how to use a thesaurus. If you're going to be an *** , at least be entertaining about it like Soviet.

Also: Nice girl car. Get a Corvette.

 

Sigh guys......keep it under control.....

Anyways,

@EIement

It might be possible but noone has figured how to do so yet. There are no 3rd party programs available that can do so so one would have to manually edit the dsdt tables of the acpi

@sandmannn69

Stop trolling please. If you don't like optimization, don't read or post in this thread then.....

@Shirokuma

So.....your CPU temps are much better then? If you consistently get close to 80C CPU wise, I'd be concerned. While that temp isn't high enough to cause any damage, it would be much higher than most G51s and would suggests a potential problem of some kind.

@putochip0123

What is the specific error you're getting? Post a screenshot?

 

:cry:

This thread is getting a little to hot for me, im scared!

This forum is about An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51 so lets respect that, its like the golden rule, lets stay in-topic.

If somebody has a different opinion and doesn't like to tweak his laptop, well, his the one missing it hahaha

 

Oh.....I almost forgot to say this, but I believe that using an external monitor of any kind whether by VGA or HDMI forces your GPU to Extra levels even at idle.

I'm not sure whether that is how its designed or whether it may be due to Dox drivers or underclocking 2D levels.

I was wondering whether someone not using Dox drivers, or are using stock voltages, or are using another GPU could test it out.

 

Overclocked to 2.3 GHz, it runs at about 41-44 while idle, maxes at 56 if I'm using it for just internet browsing and such, and 70/68 while running an Orthos stress test (5 minutes). I'm assuming these are normal, possibly a little on the high side. I live in Florida in a dorm that doesn't have the best air conditioning system, so the ambient temperature is around 75-80 Farenheit.

 

I think you all should try out 186.42 WHQL. Your benchmark scores and games will thank you for it. It also fixed the problem with my monitor forcing 61Hz instead of 60Hz like I want it to.

 

Hi guys. I am new to this forum but not new to PC's. I was kicking around the idea on getting the Asus G51 from best buy and did a lot of research which brought me to the thread. I am so glad I found it. Thank you SO MUCH for your optimization guide! Well here it is, like one guy said a picture is worth a 1000 words. I also OC the GPU to stock 550,950,1375. These temps were posted while playing WoW at max settings 4xAA and 16xAF. I think I am defiantly going to invest in a laptop cooler though, just to be safe.

 

Hi Tallroc. Welcome to NBR. Do you like climbing mountains?

What temps were you getting out of those clocks?

 

If you click on the jpeg it will show you. CPU 69,66 GPU 87.

 

The image keeps showing up as a tiny thumbnail for me even if I click it.

Anyway, those are good temps. Are you running your notebook on a desk or on a cooler?

 

Wow, that's a lot of pent-up hostility and hurt feelings. I haven't seen anything so well-reasoned since 3rd grade. I mean, really - Girl car?

In any case, how about contributing some objective data to the conversation (like how I showed that CPU and GPU temps are not interrelated), rather than making ad hominem attacks on people you don't even know.

I made my comment based on what the OP said, not on how he said it. The OP's comment represents a general attitude among certain individuals that overclocking and such is "ridiculous" and "unnecessary". I've heard similar comments in my efforts to create an 11-second S2000 (and Yes, that's a lot faster than your 'Vette - even a Z06).

I think a lot of us are tired of hearing that sort of thing.

 

So they're better than Dox 185.85 then?

 

A desk but I am going to invest in a cooler. I guess since you can't read it I should post the OC.

CPU 2.4
GPU 550,950,1375

 

Those are good temps considering your overclocks.

 

Not bad but I was only playing WoW. I cooler would give me a little more piece of mind since I did not buy the extended warranty.

Got to d/l 3dmark now!

 

BTW, DOX 185.85 doesn't seem to work in Empire:Total War. I managed to update to 190.38 WHQL and everything is working well again.

I was wondering: Is there *any* possibility that the GPU temp being reported is too high by a few degrees? Has that happened in other GPU's (I certainly am aware of all the Tj inaccuracies inherent in CPU temps). Is it possible that something analogous could be going on with the GPU?

I'm just amazed by the fact that I'm running 97c routinely with no artifacting and the underside of the laptop is quite cool. Those 2 facts don't seem to square with the sky-high GPU temp very well.

Wishful thinking, I'm sure

PS - I'm rethinking that "cool-feeling" remark as I hold my hand next to the vent during a Furmark run. Damn - you could maybe cook with this thing!

 

Haha......anyways, I don't think there are any GPU sensor problems since apparently, the Asus engineers have seen similar temps and they definitely probably used non-software means to measure the temp.

 

I still think it's a girl car. But since you supercharged it, I tip my hat off to you.

You'll never know until you try. Trust me on this one.

Sorry, Tallroc. I can see the image now. Opera has been acting weird on me this week.

 

Thinking about getting a higher res sceen, maybe 1680x1050 if I go with a 1080P I will get a blue ray drive.

 

I just switched to the 186.42 drivers and I am idling about 5-6ºC cooler. Before I was using the 186.31 drivers.

edit: nevermind, it's more like 3-4ºC lower.