An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

Ok this is going to be a stupid question. When I had my old custom gaming desktop with an asus mobo and e8400 I just set the volts/overclock in the bios. Never bothered with any software. Why cant I do that here? It just seems annoying to have to rely on software every time you start up your computer.

 

Regarding the CPU-Z thing: I'll go check on what version I have when I get home tonight and hopefully clear everything up.

That would be the best way if your motherboard allowed it. All laptop motherboards however, do not have this option (correct me if I'm wrong) probably to deter people like us from easily overclocking and potentially damaging things.

 

Wow...I'm retarded. CPU-Z shows the CPU VID, not the actual Vcore!

Every CPU in the world has it's own VID. My E6600 will have a different VID than a different E6600; it's based on Intel's calculations on YOUR CPU. My VID is 1.250, but that is NOT the voltage I'm running at, lol, nowhere close.



VID voltage (individually calculated by Intel) is the stock voltage that your CPU is run at. Your VID can *NEVER* change. You're actually lucky then, lol, because lower VID = less heat = more OC potential. It's not 100%, but....

~Ibrahim~

 

Hmm.....I think thats wrong because I know for a fact that CPU-Z showed my voltages changing. I remember when I was undervolting that I managed to confirm my new voltages everytime with CPU-Z.

 

I mean, it can fluctuate a bit, but it won't show big changes.

What version are you using?

~Ibrahim~

 

Well, don't know the version number but I'll check at home.

As for big changes, it started at 1.250V and I've tried to undervolted it as low as 1.088V which is a difference of 0.167V, which I believe is pretty significant.

 

This is with the same installation? One time it showed 1.250V and the other 1.088V on the same version?

~Ibrahim~

 

Yep, I only installed it once and when I was undervolting, it changed to the voltages that I had set every time.

 

That is your vcore....

 

Hmm, very interesting...

Try doing my method using the shortcut and speedstep. It's one of the quote boxes on the first page.

 

Okay, I am using CPU-Z version 1.51. It definitely works for me, I've tested it a couple times.

 

Now I'm just confused.....maybe it's something new? Let me double-check I have the latest version...

~Ibrahim~

 

Thank you forge, I will give it a try and report back on how it goes

 

OK, version 1.52 shows Core Voltage.



NOT Core VID. And, as you can see, while my VID was 1.250V, my Core Voltage is 1.4 (ish).

Try it with this one, mate.

~Ibrahim~

 

It's still puzzling why mine showed up fine and yours did not. Well, whatever.


Woah, hold a second. Using 1.52 my Core VID is 1.038.

 

I think there may have been a bug in earlier versions.

You mean your Core Voltage is 1.038; 1.52 does NOT display VID.

~Ibrahim~

 

I have no idea how you managed to show the "Core Voltage" in version 1.52, because if you notice in mine earlier screenshot, you will see it is written "Core VID"

 

Dude.

 

1.52 still showing CORE VID

 

Off topic, but this post made me think of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyMSSe7cOvA

 

OK.....I think I may have figured it out from a post.

Where you CPU-Z is located, there's an cpuz.ini file. Open it with Notepad. Look for the line where it says Sensor:

Code:

Sensor=1

Gives you Core Voltage.

Code:

Sensor=0

Gives you Core VID. It works on my desktop. Does it work with your G51?

~Ibrahim~

 

It was sensor=1 when I first opened it, and it still says Core VID.

 

I think, then, that CPU-Z can't report the Core Voltage of this particular CPU. If it can report it (and is), it has the wrong label.

The VID should never change. If that changes, it isn't reporting a VID.

Go here: http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php#faq. Read Q2 and fill out an email there. Hopefully someone at CPU-Z will take notice and get an update out.

~Ibrahim~

 

Hmm.....so long story short, they messed up something with the new CPU-Z 1.52 version right?

 

I think so, at least in the monitoring of the P7350. And even before, the labeling was wrong. If it says VID, then that number is impossible to change. It's literally branded to your CPU; it's like a model number almost.

If it changed, then it was showing the voltage (which is easily changed), but said VID.

~Ibrahim~

 

I remember seeing a picture somewhere that gave the "name" of the QX9300 as a C2D T9400, and the "specifications" of a C2Q Q9300 Yorkfield.

 

How's this?



I had to run two tests; I forgot to take the first picture while the test was still running. I took this picture to show what the maximum temps were; the first test I ran for 5 minutes; when it was done, there were no errors or faults.


How do I ensure that SetFSB continues to overclock? While I had SetFSB and CPUzup, my CPU speed hit 2299MHz; after I exited them both and reentered CPUz, the speed wen down to ~1700.

 

Oh, nevermind, the overclocks stuck.



How are my temps?

 

Here's the stats after I underclocked to 1.113 after overclocking ~15%. The cap doesn't show it, but there were no errors or anything; but I tried to FireFox while running Orthos and Firefox froze up; it all ended up okay though.

 

By the way, that max temperature is wrong; after five minutes of Orthos my CPU temp hit 70 celsius.

 

Hmm....that seems about right. You haven't undervolted right? I got about 70C ish before undervolting and overclocking to that much.

Quick question: what made the CPU go up to 76C?

 

I can't remember' I think I brought up Direct Console during the test to see if it would work or not (don't think it did).

I undervolted and the max temp was about 71 Celsius after overclocking.

 

Hmm.....whats the ambient temperature of the room?

I mean, the CPU temps are fine but its slightly higher than the norm (like 2-3C). I suspect that its just due to high ambient temps

 

Okay guys! Tevash, you've been a huge help and I have 5 more days until I can't return my G51. I am willing to be the "Ginny pig" and sacrifice my computer for the greater good. (Best Buy will give me my money back anyway) If their is something you need me to try or want me to I will. Let me know!!

 

Good enthusiasm, but I think everyone as done what they can with this computer. Almost everyone is overclocking, quite a few have changed their processors, and at least two people have updated their BIOS.

What we do need, though--or at least Tev--is the BIOS for the GPU.

 

Theres no need, there is really nothing to do here except to fiddle around with the vBIOS.

Yeah, I've got a copy of the G71 vBIOS but I haven't got a chance to look at it. I'll have some time tomorrow to play around with it. If it doesn't work in NiBiTor, I frankly don't know what to do other than to wait for it to be updated since I have very high reservations about using the vBIOS from a different vendor like Alienware or Sager.

 

Probably around 77 Fahrenheit.

 

Here are my temps after playing Crysis Warhead, Gamer settings, 8xAA, 1366x768.

 

Hmm....what FPS are you getting? 100C is pretty high.....are you sure that your exhaust port isn't blocked or anything? If there is nothing wrong, I'd suggest investing in a laptop cooler.

 

Is it OC'd, your GTX 260M, Rezigrene?

~Ibrahim~

 

I didn't notice any lag in the game, I didn't check my FPSs. I did however notice some boxy patters when looking at certain rock textures, but they weren't artifacts.

Nope. Don't plan on doing that either with temps that high. I'm going to pop the bottom off and see if I can't get the heat sink to make better contact. I'd use some Arctic Silver if it wouldn't void my warrant.

 

CPU temp is good though <_<

 

Let me add something: Unfortunately, the G71's GTX 260M's vBIOS does not work in NiBiTor so it looks like we're out of luck until there is an update that makes it compatible.

 

Really? That's weird; I could've swore someone in the G51 thread said their vBIOS was "workable": somehow, some got a maximum shutoff temperature, I think it was 108C?

~Ibrahim~

 

If you try to edit the vBIOS of the G51, you get a load of random things but it says the max shutoff temperature is 108C, which may or may not be correct.

 

Do you guys think I should undervolt the GPU in order to bring those temperatures down?

 

You can't do so as of right now since to do that you would have to flash the vBIOS, which we can't edit unless someone here can do it with a hex editor or something like that....which is highly doubtful

 

My gaming temps get as high as 102°C even after hours of use, I haven't had any single problem so far, not artifacts, shutdowns, freezing, downclocking etc.

Also, I have overclocked it and used it a bit with some games, and the temps didn't particularly go high at all. They remained the same.

Using furmark testing, after ten minutes of 102°C temps, everything remained the same, they didn't go higher.... so I guess the cooling is working

So yeah, I am a bit worried but then again it is all working. I am talking via e-mail with some Asus support people to see if this is "normal" or if I will have to take the laptop back and get another one. Depending on how it all ends, I might end up getting either a G71gx, or go another route like the MSI GT725, since the HD4850 is stronger than this underclocked GTX 260m.

 

But a standard 260m is superior to a 4850. You can easily set those clocks in something like nTools. You'll get more heat, but, whatever.

 

hi everybody,

i got an asus G51 and i followed the overclock and undervolt guide only for the cpu and everything is ok except the fact that CPU-Z and Everest show me a 1.000V for the Cpu voltage however i puted 1.113V in Crystal...

Do you know what is wrong?

Thx for your answers>