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    An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by TevashSzat, Jul 21, 2009.

  1. arnogogo

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    ok now it is 1.138 after a reboot so i think it is ok
     
  2. SirHase

    SirHase Notebook Consultant

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    Make sure you use CPU-Z version 1.51.....
     
  3. arnogogo

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    thx it was that...
     
  4. TevashSzat

    TevashSzat Notebook Deity

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    Well I'm adding an update in regards to the fact that you won't get maximum multipliers unless you're running under load.
     
  5. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Man, CPU-Z 1.52 is buggy. Time to downgrade.

    Has anyone done any wPrime benchmarks with overclock?
     
  6. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    I get this error


    I also get a random BSOD sometimes....
    [​IMG]
     
  7. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    If you're getting BSOD's, your undervolting too low. Not all components are created equal. Tev and I have the same processors, but he can't safely puch past 2.3 GHz while I can breeze into 2.4 GHz. while undervolting. Try going one or two steps up in the voltage.

    As for the CPU-Z readings, I hear version 1.52 is bugging out.
     
  8. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Yeah, thanks I fixed that issue (by downgrading to 1.51) but now I get that error and when I click OK it cancels out of the program....
     
  9. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    What, exactly, is the error?
     
  10. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Failed to add task tray icon.. The above pic I edited my previous post, I think I may have found a way around this is by using what you said by creating a shortcut then just making a task to run that program. I'll let you know how it goes.
     
  11. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Please do. I try to be in control as much as possible, so if I undervolt, I want to manually set it.

    Should work just fine, although what I think you did is botch up adding the task somewhere.
     
  12. TevashSzat

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    Could you post screenshots of every tab of the task you created in task scheduler?

    Include the screenshot I had of the commands added (/CQ /HIDE)
     
  13. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok I fixed the problems I had, the laptop is running magnificent now. Here's an alternative to anyone that had my issue.

    To Undervolt:

    **MAKE SURE TO DELETE THE TASK YOU CREATED IF YOU DID IT THAT WAY BEFORE THIS!!

    1. Open up "CrystalCPUID"
    2. Goto "Functions" menu"
    3. Scroll down to "Intel Enhanced Speedstep Control"
    4. Click "enable Voltage"
    5. Changed to desired Voltage settings.
    6. Click "Create Shortcut on Desktop"
    7. Goto "start" Click "all programs"
    8. Right click "startup" then select "open all users"
    9. Drag the shortcut from your desktop to the startup folder.

    Restart and check CPU-Z to see if the changes occurred. If you decide to undervolt this way you will not get a task tray icon, so IMO it looks cooler, that's just me though.


    ** Many thanks to TevashSzat, for the awsome guide I hope you put this in the original post as an optional way to undervolt if anyone else gets the error as me.
    Many thanks to Forge too, for the help and the "shortcut" mini-guide you posted earlier it really helped me out.

    Here's a screen after reboot.
    [​IMG]
    As you see in CPU-Z it shows my cpu at 1.9GHz, but I ran Orthos and it's at the desired 2.4GHz. I have not yet had any issues and it's been running on these settings for 6 hours.
     
  14. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've noticed that my "Core Multiplier" jumps from 6.0, to 7.5. Is this normal as it does affect my CPU speed. 6.00 it's at 1.9GHz, 7.5 it's at 2.4GHz.
     
  15. ikjadoon

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    Not by much, though. And don't forget the 4850 can be overclocked, too.

    On Notebook Check, the 4850 outscores the GTX 260M (@ 500MHz/800MHz) by 2FPS in Crysis High 1024x768, even though the GTX 260M had more RAM (6GB vs 4GB) and a higher CPU clock (2.66GHz vs 2.53GHz).

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  16. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    You can set the multipliers in the SpeedStep control. I notice, as seen on your screenshot, that the multiplier is set to 6.0 and voltage to 1.150. Try making a new shortcut in the Speedstep utility, making sure the multiplier stays at 7.5


    By the way, your idea is like what would have happen if Tev's and mine had wild binary and produced mutant babies.

    No homo.
     
  17. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    Ok I redid it and decided to go to 1.175V, so anyway I made it 7.5x Multiplier, but I still get this.
    [​IMG]

    I was thinking maybe it's showing one processor then switching to the second one. There at about 1 second intervals. So is their a way to OC both processors? or is that not safe? sorry I am not that informed with overclocking, and defiantly not with dual cores. I usually just help my friend build PC's and stuff so I am familiar with bios oc'ing but yadayadayada.
    Thanks for the baby complement :)

    Also here's the SETFSB
    [​IMG]
     
  18. ikjadoon

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    It is definitely overclocking both, no worries. :)

    It's SpeedStep, I'm almost sure. Maybe C1E, too. Or are those the same thing? Either way, new CPUs can lower their multipliers based on load. If you have no load, you have the lowest multiplier. It should be able to be disabled in the BIOS.

    Alternately, my mom's Dell laptop has the same issue and has no setting in the BIOS. Change your Power Plan in Windows to something else...or mess with the CPU frequency percentages in the advanced button. That fixed it for her.

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  19. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    So basically if the load is low, it will stay factory, then while playing a game it will go to 2.4GHz? that's awsome. but why would it switch so fast when not doing anything?
     
  20. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Really? I'll have to look more carefully, but it appears my multipliers stay constant no matter what I do.
     
  21. ikjadoon

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    Yup. That's the idea, Bigtatsu. Well, I like instantaneous computers, hehe.

    @Forge

    Check the Power Plan or BIOS. But, it should be noted that it isn't recommended to use C1E/SpeedStep when overclocking because it not only decreases the multiplier, but also the voltage. If you've got that part figured out, though, all is good. :)

    ~Ibrahim~
     
  22. Bigtatsu

    Bigtatsu Notebook Enthusiast

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    What would be an ideal voltage setting at 2.4GHz?
     
  23. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Processors are not created equal.

    Mine can comfortably run 2.4something at 1.150. I haven't stressed it in something like Orthos, but in 3DMark or gaming I've had no problems.
     
  24. Nothing is Real

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    I just went through the Dox installation process, and my computer said that I couldn't install the 8.09... Physx driver because I already have 909.04.28 installed. However, my computer does allow me to install 9.09... Physx driver.

    I went through the device manager and used driver sweeper... aka everything the guide told me to do.
     
  25. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Have you gone through other Dox driver's before? Sometimes the PhysX installation process leaves them installed even after uninstalling the old driver.

    You should be fine.
     
  26. Nothing is Real

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    I've never installed Dox drivers before but whatever it seems to be working out okay.
     
  27. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Cool. Give us some benchmarks.
     
  28. Manic Penguins

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    Thanks OP, my G50VT had the same bluescreen problem with nTune but nVidia System Tools are working great :D
     
  29. TevashSzat

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    Hmm....did you use driversweeper after you uninstalled your stock drivers?
     
  30. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I should have mentioned it, but I had the same situation, though I had upgraded from an odler Dox.

    The PhysX files have to be uninstalled through the the add/remove programs utility.
     
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    After installing one of the programs in this topic (Orthos, Crystal, CPUz, SetFSB) a "transcodes" folder keeps popping up on my desktop every time I restart my computer (I'll delete it and it keeps coming back).

    Any ideas?
     
  32. TevashSzat

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    Weird...I haven't heard of anyone with this issue

    Can you give me the exact name of the folder?
    What files are in it?
     
  33. Rezigrene

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    The folder is called "transcodes" and there's nothing in it.
     
  34. Nothing is Real

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    G71Gx-RX05 with Dox 185.85 drivers and 15% OC on the CPU:

    [​IMG]

    Max temperature was 82ºC and this is without a notebook cooler on a wooden surface.

    I'm going to go OC the GPU now and get past 11000!111 :)
     
  35. TevashSzat

    TevashSzat Notebook Deity

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    That sounds more like part of another program like one that re-encodes video or audio and then outputs it there.

    None of the programs there are supposed to or should have the ability to do what you mentioned.
     
  36. Rezigrene

    Rezigrene Notebook Evangelist

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    The "common system" uses a Core i7 and GTX 295?

    The more you know...
     
  37. TevashSzat

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    Correction: the common system submitted online for bragging rights uses an i7 and GTX 295

    Doubt most people with integrated graphics laptops even know what 3DMark is
     
  38. ikjadoon

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    @Rezigrene

    Is it a lightly colored folder? Like, more so than a regular folder? It might be a hidden folder; you just hide it when the Folder Options menu. But that'll hide ALL hidden folders/files..

    ~Ibrahim~
     
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    Hmm odd that the CPU is only showing at 2889 shouldn't it be 2909 if my math is correct (2.53 x 1.15)

    Also try shutting down all the crap that runs if you didn't uninstall it already like ASUS Live Update, Lightscribe (why its there dunno), etc., and rerun it, since the bench is CPU dependant I bet you might be able to squeak out <100 pts just freeing up the CPU from behind the scenes crapware.
     
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    I found it. Azureus can encode media files so that you can host them for a 360, Wii, or PS3.

    I must have ticked the option to have the reencoded files to be put on my desktop. All fixed now.
     
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  43. TevashSzat

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    Well that is the theoretical increase but there is alot of variance that may affect the benchmark a little bit which would result in a difference between the observed and expected values.
     
  44. Bigtatsu

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    Is it normal for the GPU to reach 80°C? I've read about it getting hot but that's bananas. Well I am new to laptops, and especially gaming laptops. Also heard this uses 1 cooling pipe for CPU, and GPU? Anyway I can post pictures. I took a HWmonitor pic after playing Mirror's Edge for about 4 hours max, then I just took one now after a good night's rest, on a cold re-boot.
     
  45. SirHase

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    Yes, 80C is normal for the GPU...

    At normal gaming my max temp was 77C while playing Prototype, but if I run Furmark + Orthos at same time I get a max of 98C...

    My ambient temperature are about 10~15C...

    Asus said it is normal for this notebook runs at 90'sC ... so, 80C is pretty good for a game session...
     
  46. Bigtatsu

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    Thanks for the reply, ok I feel better after hearing Asus back it up! But I think I might sue for these BURN MARKS on my leg! lol
    /sarcasm

    Also how did you get PRototype to run? I get choppy sound when I play it, and I tried the sound fix 24bit, 48000MHz but it still won't work.
     
  47. TevashSzat

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    Prototype runs fine on my computer. It just has really low sound from the speakers (like everyone else) but I just used headphones and it was fine.

    Apparently, you have to set it to something below 48000MHz but it didn't change my sound issue when I did it. I'd suggest trying headphones first
     
  48. Bigtatsu

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    Yeah it works with headphones but I play all my games on a 42" 1080p screen via HDMI output. I guess this is one game that needs headphones, ohwell.

    btw, this thread deservs a sticky
     
  49. utprabh

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    hey I am trying out ur undervolting technique on my T6500 since i wasnt able to lower the voltages below 1.000v using RMC....
    I had a doubt...while enabling voltages below 1.100v there is "X" sign next to it...does it mean it wont enable tht voltage or something?
     

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    You can lower your voltage by editing the ".ini" file in the Crystal CPUID folder...

    but, Why do you have a lower multiplier than original? Why are you downclocking the CPU?
    You should check your voltages and multiplier with CPU-Z Version 1.51...
     
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