Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

So this thing prolly won't have the Optimus tech, right? Sad.

 

Depends if it supports the IGP of the Arrandale chips. From what I've heard the only confirmed CPU is the 720qm.

 

GTX4XX seems like another rebrand after all (power wise)





I don't get it really, the new card consume a lot of power and produce high noise/heat (higher price too) yet i don't see any worthy performance boost over the previous generation cards .

 

I would also question Tom's HD5870M setup and numbers. They look a bit "low"

 

Dunno, it's on par with 480m so it doesn't look "low" to me, they posted 20 page review and Toms reviews are reliable



Also it's surprising that you get better battery life with GTX480m compared to 5870


Even with its larger screen, the GTX 480M-equipped system consumes less power at idle than the competing Mobility Radeon HD 5870 notebook. The fact that the numbers spread out even more at maximum CPU load indicates that Nvidia has a true power-miser on its hands, again at idle.

Overall results

 

"they posted 20 page review and Toms reviews are reliable"

If you say so. I wouldn't. I've seen them skew reports in favor of selected products, especially if they advertise.

 

Maybe but what you said didn't make sense, you are saying their 5870 score is "low" but totally missed the point where most of the time its result is almost equal to GTX 480m. and every other website reported the same (GTX480m is a little faster than 5870 mobile)

If there 5870 results were low as you say then their GTX480m results are low too.

 

The 460M GTX should be on par with the 5850, I could be wrong but I at least hope it performs as well.
As for optimus it is not available with i7's.
But that's a good thing since driver support for it still is a little wonky.

 

when d'y'all think it'll be released...?
I seriously need a new laptop, this damn dell can't even play Combat Arms (lowest possible demanding FPS you can think of) without the screen blanking out. completely incapacitated, lol.

 

End of July/August but more end of August.
We would have heard something if release was anytime soon.
I hope you can wait, I have a feeling it will be worth it.

 

I'm hoping that there will be a better CPU in the new models to make up for the slightly weaker GPU. I don't see how they would keep the 720 when the 740 is out at a similar price.

 

I agree but I'm sure you will be able to configure one with a better CPU.

 

good point

 

Was looking at the Alienware M11x. Nice small size (11'' screen), but its got lots of problems: Nvidia (optimus) locks up at high resolution; Fan comes on and sounds like a hair dryer when using Nvida and will not slow down even when back to integrated graphics; Closed case causes lcd to hit key pad resulting in greasy screen (from fingerprints left on keypad), Unit runs hot in gaming mode, and on & on. Then I looked at the Asus , they are built like a tank and are just as heavy. But I think Asus has something in this G53. We'll have to wait & see.
Is it best to order from a retailer here on this forum?
Thanks

 

I'd recommend gentech, though I have a feeling that when it comes out every reseller is going to be extremely backed up with preorders. I mean just look at how popular the G73 is (xotic is STILL backed up..?), now take that design and power and put it in a mainstream size...

 

i don't think i could handle using an external optical drive with the m11x, I think it would get annoying

 

yarr gaming. on a 11" netbook class screen (essentially...). that's...a joke....LOL

IMO, if you can't tote a 15.6" laptop to do a wee bit of gaming on, you shouldn't really be gaming that much at all lol

 

I was close to getting the M11x too but again after reading all the problems sort of changed my mind.
I can't bring myself to spend well over a grand for a unit that has issues.
Anyway the G53 is going to be very popular in my opinion and KEN from GenTechPC gets my vote for the place to get it.
He goes the extra mile and is always very helpful.

 

Welcome to Republic Of Gamers! - Blog
is this article talking about the jw or another version of the jh?

 

Well, there's more to performance for GPU though, personally, if I have a choice for 460m and 5870MR if they are same price I would choose the 460m over the 10-20% performance of 5870MR. Simply due to CUDA, PhysX, and a better driver support on average.

 

yeah, ATI Suks, Nvidia Rule !

 

I wouldn't say that.
Personally I would just want the card that performs better in games.
I'm not for or against either brand but I am used to using Nvidia cards.

 

Ati doesn't even release drivers for their mobile GPUs and battery life will be better on GTX460m (Even GTX480m use less power on idle compared to 5870) and gamers want better battery life when they are not gaming since battery life is meaningless once you start gaming (less than 1 hour lol)

And there is CUDA/Phsyx/Nvidia 3D/etc

I had a laptop with 4650, wont be going again with ati >.> I'm a fan of ATI on desktops but not laptops

 

nVidia never released a driver for one of its mobile GPUs (NVS 120M, )

 

ATI Catalyst? Mobility Display Driver

... really? ATI doesn't release drivers for mobility?

Also, the 5870 when properly downclocked can give you over 2 hours of battery life. Given that support for that is a bit shallow currently but we all should be used to flashing BIOS and trying out 3rd party apps and drivers by now.

Your "information" is off. Whatever you need to justify your purchase though, I guess.

 

That has to be the most ignorant statement I've read on this forum, especially with the girth of info on ATI Mobility drivers. If I could -1 Rep, I would.

 

What do we think the pricing will be like? I've been considering the MSI Gx640 now, but if this is going to be similar to it in performance with a full HD screen (the only thing I wanted that MSI didn't have), i may have to wait for this. Though if it will be more pricey, it's not really worth it for me.

 

I'm sure it'll be less than it's G73 counterpart.

 

If there is someone who wants to justify their purchase it's you not me, you are the one with G73 and i didn't buy anything yet with directx11 card.

see? i can play this silly childish game too, how about you check the link you posted yourself? i don't call this driver support when every notebook by Sony/toshiba/panasonic is not supported at all, any notebook with switchable graphic+intel not supported

Catalyst Mobility is a notebook reference graphics driver for with limited support for system vendor specific features. Support is available for Windows Vista and Windows 7 to be used at your own risk.

For my laptop, ATI never released a Single update.

Another G73 defense force? read my post before going nuts please

 

Well, you've gone from saying there is no mobility driver support to limited. At least that is more accurate. As for your specific laptop maker, it's their responsibility to design and license their ATI support on drivers. If they make changes, it's their responsibility to support it. Personally, I think it's terrible to see no driver updates on a product.

As far as intel + ATI lack of support, well it's coming, but not yet available. In deference, nVidia only recently made that support available as well. So I'm sure ATI will get that going too.

ATI Defense Squad? Not really, I'm on the Anti-FUD Squad. FYI: My G73 is my first ATI gaming product. On my desktop, I'm a long-standing nvidia user. (Dual GTX285 + GT240) So I have experience with both camps, and yes, I read your whole posting. I just highlighted the FUD part.

 

Dont know about Windows drivers, but at least for Linux - ATI drivers have poor support and more buggy compared to nVidia... nVidia release proprietary drivers with full feature support.... Also lot has gone into improvement of open source nVidia drivers for those preferring to stick to opensource drivers.... These are areas where ATI lags in terms of Linux drivers....

 

I suggest you read the entire thing again, because i didn't change anything and you keep making things up because you want to justify your obsolete purchase now (just playing along with the nonsense you guys like)

"limited support" doesn't exist for my laptop and many others, the support does not exist at all if you got a Sony laptop for example or switchable graphic etc, the limited support comment was totally unrelated and it was about a link posted by another user not you.

 

Yeah, I did read it. What it tells me you bought a laptop that didn't get any video driver support from the maker. Who's to blame?

A) The manufacturer for not doing what is needed to support their users.

B) You, for buying the lame duck and not doing your research into the support history that the company has with their products.

Now, anything else you wish to troll about?

 

Ken stated it's MSRP will be $1499.

@hsn: You do realize that arguing ATI has no driver support for switchable graphics has no basis for this laptop/line, right? It's intel that is to blame, the i7 does not support optimus either. Chas is right too, sony (among a few others) is infamous for poor/non-existent support beyond you opening the box - again, not an ati or nv issue.

@ash: linux has better support with nv drivers because of the fact that MOST of the best nv drivers are released by third party net coders, and not nv itself. There just happen to be more devoted nv fansites that tweak and release drivers than there are for ati - Nv does provide a better source base than ati.

 

I got 66 FPS average with my 5850 @ Extra and 4x AA and 1080p. I'm doubting those 5870 numbers. :S

Where can I find info about the G53JH like specs? I've been reading the last 8-9 pages and couldn't find anything.

 

The numbers mean nothing without knowing driver versions installed, etc.

 

$1499 is its baseline price...? Oh, and does anyone have a clue whether they're releasing the G73JW in bundle variants, like the G73JH-A1/A2 backpack/mouse bundle?

 

Actually the open source nv drivers are reverse engineered from the proprietary drivers since nVidia does not provide much documentation of their drivers.... The proprietary drivers are from nvidia itself afaik.... I know there are some tweaked drivers for Windows by some third party net coders - but I doubt similar ones exist for Linux....

 

Mind posting a screenshot of your results?

 

ASUS is known to give some good stuff free(backpacks,gaming mouse) now I'm not saying it will come with one of those but I'm guessing it will.
Didn't they give some sort Wii like remote control with the G51?

 

Wow $1499 is the baseline price eh ? I thought if under $1200 like the X1 model of G51JX, I could afford

 

no, I was asking whether it was a baseline lol. $1499 seems wayyy too high of a baseline to me, if the X1 G73JH costed around $1199 in BestBuy, $1499's just ridiculous. LOL.

 

if 1500 is the baseline for the 15" g53 then we could expect a baseline of about 1700 for the g73jw which is the cost of the current A1. I'm hoping that this is not the case.

 

is there any set dates when this puppy will be out>?

 

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I think that was just a guess, i don't think its anything concrete. I will add that it is very likely that this is true so asus can catch the students heading back to school.

 

That seems about right, actually.

The G51vx-RX05 was, what about $999 when it came out, with the occasional markup to $1050. The G51vx-A1--which was a reseller-only version--had stronger specs, a better screen, the Asus warranty, and came with some free goodies. Price was around $1499, if I remember.

 

G51/G71 were very similar prized in the past, even the G71 reached $1700 on resellers while the bestbuy version sold around $1100, so i dont see anything too different from what we seen in the past.... we probably will see bestbuy versions, A1/A2, X1, X2 etc, i think the tops will be $1499 going down depending on the version.

 

does anyone know if the IR emitter for the 3D will be built in?

 

sure? I was a bit confused since a bunch of people posted that swapping in a GTX 460 shouldn't make too much of a price impact