Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

It will be a little slower than 5870 mobility but with much lower heat/noise/power consumption (5870 Mobility is based on 5770 Desktop)

The current GTX480m consume less power than 5870 at idle so nvidia can pull this one (which is not surprising, 5870 was available for 7 months and GTX460m is still not released~)

 

im glad asus went with Nvidia this time, it's way better than ati.. no more bugs/driver issues

 

Hmmm... I think I'm going to wait for the G73JW. It will have USB 3.0, a better GPU and SiBEAM!

 

so will the g53.

 

GTX 460M will be based on GF106 not GF104.

GF106 should be launched by the end of next month.

 

source? If that is true I hope they release the g53 and g73jw in the first wave of laptops with the card

 

The internets.

NVIDIA GF106/108 core product prices and release time exposure

NVIDIA GF106 GeForce GTS 455/450 Will be Released in August

 

so the GF106 is the same as teh GTS 455/450 and the Gtx 460M?

 

So much talks about G53, but where is the laptop ? Its not even available for pre-order

 

picturing the pieces in our heads

 

I wish we were given more to work with

 

GF104, Geforce GTX 260 mobile to come this summer - Notebooks - Fudzilla
This article suggests otherwise

 

Fuad is just making a guess that it will be a GTX 460M.

ASUS G53 was shown at Computex to be using a GF106-ES...

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...and since then it's been confirmed by Ken Lee from GenTech that the G53 will be using a GTX 460M.

 

Hey Phinagle, have you seen the new GTX 460 review?

The mobile GPU this spawns will be a damn BEAST.

I'm waiting for it.

 

But the desktop GTX460 should be kinda like the mobile GTX480m.... now the GTX460m.... who knows, but at least from that review, we can see that nvidia can produce a great performer with good temperatures and decent power consumption... so i have good hopes for the GTX460m.

 

performance will be lower then 5870m but hope the over heat problem will be fixed.

 

have said it before, it's NOT as much of a real thinness at the front compared to the G73...

 

I don't know if it will be beastly but it would definitely be a better mobile graphics card than the GF100 based GTX 480M since it sacrifices some of the GF100's unnecessary compute for power savings.

It would really be the higher clocks that put a mobile GF104 card over the GTX 480M though, because the way this version of Fermi works it's not always a 336 core GPU...it's a sometimes 336 core/sometimes 224 core GPU depending on how well the game and drivers are optimized to use the GPU. It's a tiny bit deceptive really....but nothing to get fanboy nuts over.

Honestly IMO GF104 isn't really anything ATI can't match or beat even with just Evergreen architecture.

 

You have to cram a lot of high performance hardware in very limited space so you have to expect it's gonna be a little thicker than the G73.

 

I think the ATI = bad drivers impression is outdated. I use ATI cards in several computers including my G73 and have had no driver problems whatsoever.

 

that's what I meant! lol. if the mobo's still in the same position, and i see that the connectors are all the way at the end of the thing, then that means the motherboard takes up the entire width of the machine. which, looking at the g73, whose front is not occupied by the mobo, the g53 should have a significantly smaller angle to the front.

 

any word/rumour on a release date for the g53 or refresh of hte j73?
Ken?? anyword? if there are any other resellers is there any rumours or confirmed dates yet????

 

man, I really hope this comes out before september. It would be awesome to use this for school.

 

yeah u would think there would be some leads, or some sort of confirmation by now if it were to be released by september...

 

So how's the water cooled laptop coming around

 

I would approve the use of torture on anyone who withheld information about this laptop from this thread.

 

The new Fermi cards are the perfect graphic cards for notebook environments

1-Lowest Temperature level during IDLE and LOAD for a longtime (GTX 465/470/480 Almost double the temperature)




2-Noise level (How can it be that cool without using giant noisy fans? >.>)





3-Power consumption




And you can easily overclock it

 

So are we gonna see a 460m inside a GX640?

 

Aren't those desktop GPU's?

 

yes

10char/

 

Yes, they are. Not to rain on the 460 parade but you guys really need to realize that until the 460 M is released it's hard to actually compare anything, a lot of these benchmarks are useless.

Also, those last posts with the 460 at the top of most of those graphs? Yeah... that's the 768 GDDR3 (crippled) version. It's promising that they look better than the 480 monster does/did, but the graphs and marketing can be misleading. If NV decides to put out crippled 768 GDDR3 version for the 460m, you'd be just as well off to buy a 285 now, it'll be pretty much the same. Even with GDDR5 it still can't theoretically top the 5870, and without optimus (damn i7's) you can toss battery life out to sit right beside the 285 and 5870. If it cools better than the 5870 it'll be a winner though, especially in a 15".

 

Couldn't have said it any better myself.
We need some numbers for this card, not some hypothetical rankings.
We might be expecting way too much from these cards but I can honestly say it does look good on paper.

 

How would would the FHD cost against the standard HD screen and is it worth the extra?

 

People in these forums are weird, every other forum users are excited for the new fermi power consumption/performance/noise/temperature ratio.

Yes these are benchmarks for the desktop cards, everybody can tell easily from the names, these are posted not to tell you GTX460M benchmarks but to give you an idea what is the new Fermi is capable of (it's top of the list)

Too many Ati fanboys (not you i'm talking in general) try to underplay the new Fermi awesomeness, when GTX480m info leaked to be based on GF100 Fermi everyone was laughing and saying it's doomed because fermi desktop cards produced a lot of heat and was noisy, but now nvidia release something amazing and "fermi desktop is irrelevant to mobile cards.

GTX260m/GTX280m were based on desktop 9800 and so does previous cards.

 

It's just a guess but based on past models (g51) I'd wager that the FHD A1 equiv is the $1499 ken spoke of, while the "standard" HD screen gets stuck on bestbuy models for about 1200ish? And then the HD3D screen gets its' usual huge gimmick markup (see g51).

 

Is it worth it? Does it look and preform a lot better for the price difference?

 

$1499 is a tough price to be persuaded by. I wish they would drop it to like $1299 or something. The BB models are decent at $1199.

 

For every "ati fanboy" there is an NV fanboy... though I think the majority of people here are neutral and will buy whatever is the best at their time of purchase.

The reason we're 'not excited' is because we've seen this all before - NV marketing at it's finest, whether it is directly or via thirdparty fansites. HOPEFULLY the 460m is competitive because that is what is healthy for consumers, and it pushes tech forward an inch. People are mad over the 480 because it went an inch backwards.

And the 260/280 (and every single card since the 9600) were based on the G92 core which was first used in the 8800's, which ironically were decent performers but terrible for everything else and were notorious for literally melting Another reason I'm personally wary of the first fermi gen.

 

First gen fermi was epic fail for me and to so many others, and if you did read the review from anandtech you would realize that GTX460 is the first nvidia card they liked for a very long time and their results which you call "scam marketing etc" are objective not "subjective like your opinion in here" because there results were pretty much a match with every other review published so far (and they are many from reliable websites)

The question is not does the second Gen Fermi is good or not (it's the best and it's proven now~) the question is will nvidia be able to transform this success to their mobile cards? and considering that the confirmed leaked info we got so far we know that GTX460m will be based on Fermi Gen 2, it will take a miracle from nvidia to release a bad GTX460m card.

But again you bought G73 with 5870m so you will keep trying to underplay this for no reason and accuse websites to be scam and being paid by nvidia

 

Well I am not really a fanboi but I do technically favor NV over ATI due to ati's driver track record and my personal experience with those cards, I was a big fan of 3DFX, then Matrox (G400 the 32mb card dual head max) then Nvidia =)

 

See my above post and re-read the part about neutrality, then look at my sig again. I own hardware from both companies on lappys and desks - I use whatever is best at the time. My little 7600 has certainly treated me well, but when I decided it could no longer perform well enough (a couple months back), I did my research and settled on flying the red flag for a few years. Had I known about the 460m when I bought mine... it wouldn't have changed anything, since the 5870 will still likely outperform the 460m. I don't personally care much about battery life. Also, certain tech sites are extremely biased, one way or the other; you'd have to be incredibly naive to not see that.

That said all we're doing is debating something that doesn't even officially exist yet Really, everyone is hoping that the 460m succeeds, but people have to be aware of the fact that it probably won't be more powerful than what is already out there, it just might cool better? And more expensive of course, never understood why NV was more expensive (maybe it's the slightly better driver support).

 

I personally prefer nVidia as well, but we really need hard data on the mobile GTX 460m before we can start trumpeting the next-gen Fermi as a gamebreaking card.

 

What I can say from a marketing perspective is that nvidia will never be so stupid to have a less expensive 460M beating or even being on par with their top end 480M, and since 480M is only slightly outperforming 5870MR, 460M won't be anywhere close. Even if it is based on the desktop 460, nvidia will nerf the 460M enough such that it won't pose a threat to their 480M.

 

mwuahhahahaha Nvidia fanboy is dead

 

I'm tired of this long wait it seems like Nvidia made this delay for a little of marketing cuz they didnt have their GPUs. ASUS could make their new series just with the ATI 5870 and it will be fine

 

No confirmation or release or even update news from Asus makes it a little annoying, for now we are left with basic discussions over what could be?

 

On the spec list it is detailed that the quads can support up to 16GB of RAM, but how many GB do you think they would be selling them with as standard (before customizing or upgrading)?

 

The current G73 can technically support up to 16gb as well, but in a word, it's unnecessary. Again, just looking at current and past iterations of the G series, I'm fully expecting that the $1499 "A1" model will have a FHD screen, 8gb ram and at least dual 500gb HDD's - 1.5TB total is quite possible too. It's not like the chipset doesn't support it... 4gb would feel sort of insulting seeing as the g51 has that much and it's over a year old, but if they wanted to keep costs down it's still a possibility.

 

I will take the 5-10% GTX460m slower over 5870 since it will have much lower temperature levels, consume less power, quieter and lets not forget better drivers support/CUDA/3D VISION/PHSYX/1.5GB instead of 1GB/AUDIO+VIDEO over HDMI etc

Nvidia is just simply superior ~ (for my USE before ati fanboys get a heart attack)

 

How much extra would it cost for me to customize it and adding in an SSD as the primary drive? And what brand and drive do they actually put in?