Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

WOW! Another delay? This is ridiculous! The delays never end!

By the time I get the G53, my semester will be half done!

 

man, by the time this comes out its going to be outdated!

 

totally agree.. go and get the G73JW before that becomes outdated

 

I just receive email from logical blue one says that ETA will be delayed to 3rd week of October
........

 

10/18 is the third week of October, so this matches up exactly with what others have been saying.

 

I decided today that the 1 or 2 inches larger in size that the G73 is isn't too bad. I'm going to make the switch.

 

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. I'm going to play around with a configuration and email Justin with some questions... and seriously think about making the switch.

 

to wait for sandybridge + HD6000 or get this....

isn't the HD6000 series launching in Oct too?

 

I was considering the G73JW but I'm on a strict student budget and don't want to really dip into my grocery money for a laptop (lol) since it's 250$ more. Plus, after my summer semester of lugging around a 17" laptop, I really don't feel like crushing the guys arms next to me in lecture halls (seat-to-seat like sardines) (lol)

Asus reminds me of Blizzard. They both push back their flagship products up to half a dozen times before they release it.

What's funny is I had next Friday circled on my calendar three times in red marker LOL Damn you Asus! /hate

 

That's horrible. Did you preorder? Is there any advantage to preordering?

 

Well, since it's a very popular system, the advantages of pre-ordering would be getting the 'first wave/batch'. If one waits until the last minute, he/she could be forced to wait for batch #2 if they sell out.

Edit: Yeah, I pre-ordered with GenTech (great guys).

 

what the hell....... can't they just get their act together?

 

IMO: I think the aspect of this that has me the most concerned is not knowing the reason for the delays. Delays happen, but the reason(s) why they are occurring are possible indicators as to how the system will perform out in the field. If these are simply lack of supply component issues then it’s not that big of deal, but if they are having QA issues off the production line, or are experiencing performance related issues on test machines coming off the line that is quite another. Knowing what the reason is would provide a level of comfort to the awaiting customer.

ASUS is a very reliable brand and I’m sure whatever the reason for the additional delay it will be resolved, but I just decided that holding out for a model that has not been released yet does not makes sense for me. The G73JW in some degree has been vetted through the JH releases. To me I look at the G73JW as a next generation of that line.

I’m sure the G53 will be awesome….but there’s at least a bit of unknown at this point.

 

ASUS has done the same in the past, so it's nothing new.
It's more or less the norm, unfortunately

 

Asus has a long and illustrious history of delaying the release of new products - I didn't bat an eyelash when Justin said the G53 was pushed back, and I wouldn't worry about it too much. They've also never published an official release date, all we've been going off of are estimates so far.

 

Would agree, but occasionally a fluke.

For example, thousands I think pre-ordered through GenTech/XoticPC and later with PowerNotebooks etc from December and January.

Then there were two NBR members who until recently, in Frebruary, decided they wanted to upgrade their notebook. They saw the advertisement and pre-order marketing information for the G73. And they decided, OMG I have to have it now.

They both went online and looked and looked and called. Everyone saying pre-order is backed up til the 3rd shipment, late March early April.

On February 5th they found ExCaliberPC and ordered, quickly, overnight Saturday shipping. Along with a few GenTechPC customers, these two were the first among to have a G73 in their hands in USA/Canada. And they ordered last minute on February 5th when all other resellers had back-orders until late March, early April.

Not just a brand, but designer and manufacturer. Asus along with Clevo, Acer, MSI, Quanta and Compal are among the only companies that manufacturer laptops. Dell, HP, Sony, Toshiba, Alienware, Apple, etc are brands. Asus is everything. G53 was designed by Asus laptop designers, all in house, and the casing, motherboard, GPU etc are all manufactured by Asus.

This is the reason why I initially switched to Asus and considered MSI/Clevo. To me, Dell/HP/Toshiba/Sony etc are all middlemen. I wanted my notebook direct from the manufacturer, my money goes to the cost of the notebook, not for the brand name. And frankly, since Dell/Toshiba/Sony/HP/Apple etc are all brand names, they are all the same pretty much.

Asus btw does not make laptops for any brands. If you want an Asus, it's an Asus and it's nice to know they are not a mass manufacturing operation like Compa/Quanta that make millions of generic laptops for the dozens of generic brands out there.

 

Very interesting..I did not know this. I assumed that most of the other companies, like Dell (Alienware) and Sony also did their design and manufacturing work.

I have been a big Clevo fan for a while now, but I am looking forward to my very first ASUS.

 

Alienware has a long history of working with laptop manufacturers though to get their notebooks right. Believe they worked with Compal and forget, there is another company.

But Clevo is definitely like Asus, that is a true laptop manufacturer. And looking at the result of the G73, hopefully you will have the same level of quality etc. Haven't read of any issues with the GTX 460M yet, so far so good.

 

Way off-topic but...

ASUS isn't building it's own machines anymore, in case you missed it, they spun off that whole division into Pegatron, and they've stopped working with Pegatron for some of their notebook lines, sourcing with Quanta and Foxconn (Hon-Hai) I think it was.

I'm not sure who's making the G53 and G73, but you could easily find out by reading the DMI table with the manufacturer name (for example dmidecode on Linux). For instance, here's the one from my G51J:

Code:

Handle 0x0002, DMI type 2, 15 bytes
Base Board Information
	Manufacturer: PEGATRON CORPORATION
	Product Name: G60J
	Version: 1.0    

Edit: Login to DIGITIMES archive & research

 

ASUS G53JW-A1 15.6" Notebook
Condition: New
Availability: Pre-order (ETA: Oct 5, 2010)

(on ebay)

I'm just going to tell myself it's October 5th so I don't tear my hair out b/c they've been delayed Then when it gets to October 5th, I won't get as disappointed as I would telling myself at this very moment that they're 3 weeks away lol.

 

I am probably going to cancel the pre-order and go for MSI GX660R...
just did a similar config and the price isn't that much different.

Trying to email gentech about that...
(I sent an email to Ken about the hard drive bracelet a few weeks ago because I was planning to intall a second hard drive myself and wondered about the bracelet is available or not, but no reply..hopefully this time will be ok, emailed the service email for gentech instead this time)

 

Ken always replies lightning fast. Perhaps the e-mail was lost in cyberspace? As for the GX660R, it's a good unit, but you have to remember the support/warranty that comes with MSI (one of the worst out there), or else I would of done the switch myself If you're wondering 'how bad could it be', look through a post I made a few posts ago.

 

yea I read about it.
through I rarely used a warranty service before for any of my laptops because they always break down right after the 2 years warranty.
The brighter note is that my home country is in Hong Kong and I do return to there twice a year, probably going to receive a better service (PROBABLY)

I will let you know if living closer to taiwan can somehow improve the services!

oh, Ken just replied my email! I guess it did just got lost into a pile of emails afterall.

 

GT663 by MSI just announced.. Might be a strong competitor

MSI Global ? Computer, Laptop, Notebook, Desktop, Mainboard, Graphics and more

 

i5 Version = 1380$ (with optimus)

i7 Version = 2608$

As per a tech website. What the i7 version has that the G53JW doesn't is x2 HD (500GB/ea), so 250GB more HD. Blu-ray, amazing speakers, 8GB of Ram(?). Both are 15.6" HD.

The i7 version is way too overpriced. Earlier I thought I read 1700$, which would be a good deal, but that was in British Pounds lol. I take it it's that much in USD b/c it may have i7-extreme? I see no other reason why it would be so much $.

 

damn, I guess now I have to reconsider on my final decision...AGAIN!
I might just as well improve the G53 and call it a gift earned for the wait lol

 

The 663's specs and price could still change (like Asus did with removing WIDI at the last minute /hate). The tech site where I got those prices said it's getting released late October, so that's another 4 long weeks and the G53 being 2.5+ weeks.

I'm sick of waiting too, man. Laptop companies should put out 'worst case scenario' dates for their products and not best case, because people like us tear our hair out with all these delays lol

I didn't even think it was possible to cram x2 500GB HD's and a Blu-Ray in a 15.6", but I guess MSI made it work. They're going to need exceptional venting, unless it's large and bulky like Asus did with their Stealth Bomber design. I expect the GT663-i7 to weigh as much as the G73.

 

I'm curious as to where you see these prices. I was trying to find them but there was only a site that posted prices in GBP on sept 10, before this was even released. Did you get these from an official source? I'm curious to know because that seems extremely overpriced like you said.

 

Source:
Isaiah's Tech: MSI CR620 Notebook Gets Announced, GT663 Gets Spotted In the Wild

I'm sure the i5 version will sell, but they're making a HUGE mistake if they think they can even 'move' one of the i7 versions. You can get a decked out Asus or Sager for under their asking price, but that's IF it doesn't have i7-extreme. If it does, forget I even typed this paragraph, since resellers sell it for 900-1000$, so it would be a 'good deal' to those loaded with $.

From the specs I gathered, the i7 version is worth about 1650$ USD (in my eyes) based on what's confirmed so far(confirmed: i7-(?), 8GB ram, blu ray, 1TB (500GB x2), 15.6" 1080, 460M Nvidia, Dyna. speakers). Where else would the extra 1000$ USD come from, lol?

 

Well today I made the switch official. Donald (PowerNotebooks) was true to his word and I'll have my new laptop in hand (complete with all my mods) by Tuesday or Wednesday.

I'm a happy camper!

 

Yeah that's where I've seen it too. I'm really wondering how official that is. I mean if that was the case it just seems logical to get the i5 version instead of spend over a grand more of so.

 

delays are seriously troubling because I expected to use it during the next few weeks when I am off to another city

So I have done it, tweaked up the laptop a little bit more and the laptop "SHOULD" arrive when I get back

The problem with Asus is that upgrading components seems to be a lot more expensive than the MSI laptop...

 

Like a couple of you I'm about to bail out on the wait for the G53 and jump over to the G73. In summary, is it fair to say that the only real difference between the two is price and about an inch of desktop footprint/weight? Any trade offs otherwise?

 

Slight size increase (and the G53 is actually fatter than the G73 based on the specs) and price are pretty much it. Also, we don't know about the fan/cooling on the G53 or the quality of the screen. Both should be as good as the big brother but you never know...

 

Can anyone confirm if there is no way to have a Raid 0 setup on the G53/73 laptops? I believe that is what I'm reading due to the Intel HM55 chipset limitations - or is there a solution/option to bridge this?

 

So when's this thing coming? Is there a definite date yet?

 

G53JW/G73JW does not have RAID controller built-in on the mainboard.

 

Thanks for confirmation. Pity that, and the lack of Expresscard, are enough to drive me over to the MSI 660s, if only they didn't look like someone crashed a Lincoln into a rural disco.

 

What will be funny is if sandybridge or HD6000 series launches before the G53JW! That would cause havoc in the forums!

 

I'm not expecting huge gains from the HD6000 series initially. The Southern Island chipsets are coming out first, and I'd personally wait for a northern island release in Q2-Q3 2011 since most reports expect strong increases in performance.

 

What do you mean? current 660s are 15.6 inch format with dual HDDs, Bluray etc etc. the GT663 should be the exact same but with nvidia instead of ATi.

I seriously doubt the price will be higher than 1700dls anyways.

Cooling will be fine if it is like GX660.

 

Anyone notice that they didn't drill holes on one side of the 660? It's got grill imprints, but no holes for a vent So is it really cooL?

 

Yes very much so!
FURMARK torture runs had mine in the lower 80's.
In my book that's excellent with only 1 fan setup.
Temps are kept very cool.

 

Since the G53JW-3D is up, is anyone doing the switch over? I'm remaining with the original since I'm poor

Source:
Asus G53JW-3DE 15.6" HD 120Hz/NV GTX460M 1.5GB GDDR5/i7-740QM/6GB DDR3/750GB 7200rpm/Blu-Ray: GenTech PC Store

 

My thought is that going from FHD to 3D-WXGA is a massive down-trade.

I'm not an expert (so feel free to nitpick my points), but if I understand correctly the negatives are:

- Big reduction in resolution/screen real estate (obviously).
- The image is much darker in 3D.
- FPS is diminished as it is highly demanding on CPU/GPU cycles to render both images simultaneously, even at a lower resolution.
- This is a first generation 3D implementation, and therefore prone to all the issues first adoption incurs (notably it'll be vastly better implemented in 12 months).

Wake me when CPU/GPU power and screens are more in line with the program, and you don't need glasses.

 

ASUS has done 3D in the past but I agree with everything else.
$300 more for 3D setup is a ripoff in my opinion.

 

Such a perfect analogy.
And basically what jimmy said, mobile GPUs for the moment (including the gtx460m) can not handle processing both images and getting good fps at the same even with the low 1366X720 res.
Whats the point of lowering your settings to see crappy details at a low res in 3D?...=/

 

720 native res looks fine for gaming on such a small screen, lets be realistic. 720p games on ps3 and xbox look fine. consider your sitting further away from a 32inch tv than the 15 inch monitor, but they probably both take up the same percentage of your maximum visual area if you can understand what im saying. If i got that 3d one, id probably turn the 3d off and just rock games with way higher frame rates at native res, the only reason 720 looks crappy on higher res monitors is its up scaling it to fit the screen, unless you play in windowed mode.

personally id like the higher res screen tho because i do a lot of photoshop and illustrator work and the real estate does make a big difference in those cases.

 

So you own an MSI GX660? How is it?

 

Perfect!
It's exactly what I wanted from a gaming laptop, runs every game, fairly quiet looks being subjective it's more or less the most powerful laptop I've ever owned.