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    Asus G53, the smaller version of the G73jh

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by yoyosupmang, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. ablahblah

    ablahblah Notebook Consultant

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    I could care less about the 3D potential, I just need a nice lappy that can be sorta equal to my gaming desktop (i7, SLI'd 9600s, 6GB DDR3 :D).

    The lappy I'm using now just goes to show how cheap Dell equipment is, LOL. LAN got deleted first, then Battery died on me, then Printers all got deleted, then Wireless stopped functioning, now it's getting USB hubs confused (This all happened randomly in Windows XP after 2 years of use, and no, i've checked, no viruses. o.o). I hate Dell products with a passion. :mad:
     
  2. Kevin

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    So basically, what was originally GF104 may have been repurposed as GF106, because this (new) GF104 has turned out to be what Nvidia envisioned from the beginning for their highest end cards.

    Then the wisest move, for me, is to skip this current iteration of mobile Fermi altogether.
     
  3. hakira

    hakira <3 xkcd

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    Correct - relate first gen fermis to nv's 8000 series. They were the first G92 cores and had horrible problems, but they were greatly improved for the 9000 series. Timing dictated that I buy the red team this go around :)
     
  4. Phinagle

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    If I remember right you aren't planning on buying for a couple more months yet so you should have all the info in by the time you're going to spend.

    Honestly I don't think anyone interested in the G53 should feel any remorse later if they decided not to wait and went with a Mob. HD5850 or HD5870 now. The G53 and VX7 are definitely not going to be using a GTX 480M, and any kind of GF106 or N11E-GS GPU they do end up with is still going to be a lower model card than the GF100.
     
  5. IKAS V

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    Someone posted in the CLEVO forum about installing one with a desktop CPU and performance was virtually the same as a 480 GTX and desktop CPU.
     
  6. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Installing what? Link?
     
  7. IKAS V

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    Look I'm on my phone so your going have to do some of the legwork yourself ;)
    In the Sager and Clevo section look for this post
    "First Benchmark of a D900F running a Mobilty Radeon 5870!"
    It's on the first page, it's a very interesting read.
     
  8. Idk-yet

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    Any soon opportunity for asus 2 show off their new laps?
     
  9. Kevin

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    I was originally waiting until December, but now I'm resolute and intend to wait for the mobile GPU which is based on the 336 core GF104.

    A while back, in one of the multiple and random topics on 400M, I made a one-off comment, on how little I believe Nvidia cares about the 480M. At the time, my baseless speculation was that the company would replace the 480M with a more efficient chip later on, and now a prime candidate has suddenly come to the stage. Watch there be a GTX 485M someday.

    It's also worth looking forward to the Mobility 6000 refresh. Overall, I think Q4-Q1 is the time to wait for, as tech right now is in a state of transition, CPU and GPU wise.
     
  10. Phinagle

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    A GTX 485M sounds plausible as an answering shot to Islands but that's a good ways off. Like CeBit 2011 maybe.
     
  11. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    As long as ATI and nVidia can keep the pressure on each other, we consumers win.
     
  12. Phinagle

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    It's looking almost certain that GF104 will be a 336 core part so the GF106-ES could be the GTX 460M and GTX 470M.
     
  13. HeavenCry

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    I managed to cram a mobility 5870 into the D900F so we could have a fair comparison (link in my sig). The mobility 5870 paired with a deskop cpu, like the gtx 480m, at a third of the price, and with much lower tdp, performs on par with the gtx 480m at everything (even got the exact same vantage and crysis scores) except heavy tesselation, where the 480m has advantage, but neither of the cards can provide a fluent, playable fps with heavy tesselation so that advantage doesnt really matter for anything but bragging rights...
     
  14. IKAS V

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    HellCry is the man!
    Great job on it?
    How you liking your G73?
     
  15. IKAS V

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    Great find!
    Things are started to get interesting know :)
     
  16. HeavenCry

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    Havent got it yet :) Will ship from GentechPc today if all goes according to plan and than it will take 6-10 days more for it to get to me.
    They even flashed a custom vBios i sent them, updated the bios to 209 for me and i even had luck to receive one out of the 1333mhz ram batch :D
    So if nothing is wrong with it once i get it i think i will be very pleased :cool:
     
  17. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Even still, I'm still a bit miffed that it appears that the Lambo will get a better GPU.

    Oh well, I've never had the "best" GPU, so why should that change now.


    All that for you, huh? Yet another reason why Gentech is awesome.
     
  18. ablahblah

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    I declare this topic officially BUMPED and/or revived!

    any word on whether Asus is keeping the GPUs the same for the G53 and the G73JW? after seeing how a G73JH actually weighs today, 17.3" is coming back into my lappy possibilities....ehehe
     
  19. GenTechPC

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    It's confirmed both G53JQ and G73JQ will have NV GTX460M.
     
  20. Abula

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    Thanks Ken, is it JQ or JW? and do you have a rough estimate on when you guys might get them (no specifics)?
     
  21. kowell

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    If this is true then I see no reason to regret my purchase of a G73JH last month.... huzzah!
     
  22. HeavenCry

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    How did you find that out?

    And isnt it G73JW or will it be JQ or will there be two new models?

    And do you have any specs or benchies of the gtx 460m?
     
  23. Justin@XoticPC

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    Unfortunately GTX 460M is not released yet and there are no benches yet. They are both going to be 1.5GB GDDR5 memory. The MSRP on the G53JQ at this time is going to be $1499 :) Both are expected to have WIDI.
     
  24. Abula

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    Thats really good price imo :D, seems ill be staying with asus. Btw is it JQ or JW?
     
  25. Phinagle

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    So GTX 460M is based on the GF106 then.

    1.5Gb would mean a 192-bit bus.


    GF106-ES and N11E-GS might be the same 192 core/192-bit GPU.
     
  26. GenTechPC

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    G73JQ was my typo and I think G53JQ is Asus's typo since they Q and W just to each other. unfortunately no ETA yet and their ETA never accurate anyway. :p


    It's G73JW.

    This should be the GTX 460M spec: 675/1350.


    Yeah it should be, Asus were waiting for nVidia to name the new GPU.
     
  27. mersenne

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    If the GTX 480M only barely beats the MR5870, how would the 460M perform?
     
  28. Kevin

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    So now we just need to know, whether what we've seen in the Lambo is the 460M.

    Finding out that it's housing the 470M would be quite the buzzkill.
     
  29. Phinagle

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    I think the VX7 is probably the GTX 460M because of the -GS. The GTX 480M is N11E-GTX so a 470M would be a N11E-GT.
     
  30. HeavenCry

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    Once im not sorry i didnt wait :D
     
  31. Chastity

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    You frighten me with how much energy you put into this :D
     
  32. ablahblah

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    topic blanks for three days, and them BAM, instant GPU confirmation and price estimate! whoopee!

    anyways, so, does anyone have a clue what the heck is gonna be the difference between the G53JQ/JW and the G73JW...?
     
  33. Quadzilla

    Quadzilla The eye is watching you

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    Yeah Phinagle has issues but they are mostly good ones :D...
     
  34. hakira

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    Probably 3D support/gimmicks. Hopefully not screen res too, though :/

    Or, like ken said, asus made a boo-boo and fatfingered their own product name :p
     
  35. ablahblah

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    the G53 i think was specified as FHD, which means 1920x1080. correct me if I'm wrong. the G73JW is obviously gonna be 1920x1080 though.
     
  36. IKAS V

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    Well at least we now have a basic idea of what were getting.
    Please let there be a no 3D option for the screen.
     
  37. hakira

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    They did show that yes, but I'm pretty sure I remember them saying there was also going to be a 3D variant, like the g51 has. What they didn't state was which model is getting the FHD screen, though it will likely be the non-3D version. Dunno why they'd pursue such a gimmick but whatever...
     
  38. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Huzzah. I no longer fear a gimped GPU. And now the waiting commences.
     
  39. neochikara

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    Very excited for this. I just hope it hits before mid-August or I'll have to forgo it due to deadlines. Looking forward to seeing some of the 460M benchmarks.
     
  40. ECKS

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    Will the 460M be better than the MR5850? Optimus?
     
  41. HSN21

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    1499$?
    They better include BluRay Drive for that price

    Confirmed 1.5GB GTX460m and WiDi is nice though

    I'm pretty sure this laptop will be shipped before September unless Asus want to miss pre-school sales
     
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    Wheres our nerds? will someone please explain this.. how good is the GTX460 compared to the 5870?
     
  43. IKAS V

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    Not as good.
    Now how much less is the question, the 480GTX is barely better than the 5870 so I'm guessing that the 460GTX will perform worse.
    I hope ASUS gives us the full version and not some gimped out one with lower clocks.
     
  44. HeavenCry

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    There are no benchmarks of the gtx 460m yet, but seeing how the Mobility 5870 is pretty much on par with the gtx 480m, the 460m will undoubtedly be weaker, but well have to see just how much weaker when we get the benchmarks.
     
  45. GenTechPC

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    5870 should perform better than GTX460.
     
  46. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    From what I hear it should perform at around the level of the GTX 280m.
     
  47. fzhfzh

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    judging by the amount of cores, yes, should be around 280M level, you can just see it as a 280M with dx11.
     
  48. GenTechPC

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    Yeah GTX 280M with DX11 is the best to describe GTX 460M. :)
     
  49. HSN21

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    Anyone got a nice link for GTX280m benchmarks?
    (I suck with google, couldn't find worthy benchmarks other than notebook check which doesn't show us much)
     
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