Asus G60-JX @ BestBuy fir $999.99

Which are...? On my G51Jx the stock speeds were lower than Nvidia's stated ones on their site. I you can check what they are with CPU-Z or GPU-Z or some other similar app and check what the 3D Application Clocks are then that would be awesome, thanks .

The CPU in these systems runs much cooler (it being a dual core vs. quad and in general an i5 rather than i7) and scores ~500 points lower but your GPU score matches my overclock values and temps are at my stock clock levels (though there isn't that much of a difference in temp OC vs. stock, it's true). The CPU and GPU heatsinks are linked, so one being cooler could have an effect on how hot the other is (in this case the CPU being cooler and the GPU being the same). Them giving you slightly better clocks and a slightly higher voltage because of the Processor difference could be possible - we can test for that - and it all depends as well on what the stocks are so we can work from the data when you can get it thanks .

Peter

 

Was just going to add as an edit to my previous post, but I figure this is different enough to warrant a new one.

In the past post I was speculating - it'd be great to have it confirmed or not. The differences in GPU score are definitely interesting, and it'd be great to find a way to account for them. If it is some kind of overclock that's cool, or if it's some newer drivers included maybe? Or BIOS? If you can reply to those facts that would be greatly appreciated - thanks.

For reference, here are the pics (my pics are from my review, link in sig):

Yours (G60JX):


Mine Stock G51JX-A1:


Mine Overclocked G51JX-A1:

 

Here are my stock clocks. As for drivers, I don't have the original ones anymore. I have the 196.86 drivers from laptopvideo2go. Perhaps it's the drivers that are making the difference?

 

I just found on new egg the G73 w/o blue ray in stock so I am returning this model.
But I probably should have saved the $ I really really like this machine

 

For the money you can't beat the specs.
There is no other laptop for $999.99 that can perform better.

 

Here's a benchmark with a little o/c'ing.

 

I'm impressed.
Even when OC'ing the Gpu it's still runs at the same temps.
@Viper
Does is still have the Turbo function for the CPU?
If do how high does it OC?
My G60VX disc drive makes a racket when it running which really pisses me off, is this one quiet?
Going to BB tommorow to check these babies out

 

Are you talking about the turbo boost in power4gear power plans? If so, there is no option for that. Though the i5 has it's own speed boost thing, anytime the cpu gets a strain put on it it clocks up to 2.53 Ghz.

 

Yeah I was talking about the Power4Gear option.
It's a very cool feature.It OC's my T9900 up to 3.4Ghz.No messing around with the BIOS or anything, couple of clicks and you have it running.
I new the i core chips OC themselves but it would have nice if they had in this model.
I guess you can always upgrade to a better CPU.

 

I'm interested to see if the i7 would work on this.

 

viper thanks a bunch for posting the pics here! I'll try the drivers from that website - maybe mine will run cooler ...

The left side touch pad on the wrist pad, significantly hotter than my G60vx

 

I hope it does, specifically the quad core ones. Hopefully you won't have a repeat of my G51vx/quad debacle.

 

Well according to this dude they do.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=464489
We need some hard evidence, a CPUZ picture with the mainboard specs

 

We don't know what model of G60jx that is. If they're doing different motherboard revisions like they did with the G51vx, (case in point: G51vx-A1 and G51vx-RX05) we could have the same incompatibility.

 

Would this one fits 2 HD's?

 

No just 1 HD.

 

Which is better? This G60 or the G72 that they have with the P8700 and GTX 260. I am asking performance wise for games and etc. Or are they equal? Since they have same price point.

 

Very true, maybe I'm just dreaming he had the BB version.

 

Same specs= same performance for games.

 

They have diff specs though. This G60 has the i5 with the GTS 360 while the G72 has the P8700 with the higer end GTX 260.

 

Technically best buy still sells the G60vx with the GTX260m and core2 duo and the G60jx with the GTS360m with i5..

Personally, I'm thinking about going back to the vx while they still have them and just upgrading the cpu ... this GTS360m runs very hot.. I've never felt more heat come off the gpu... more than my 8800m gts, 9800m gts or the gtx260m.. I had my laptop elevated about an inch more in the rear with the intake vents clear while playing MWII ... the game studdered a bit and the performance just didnt seem as good as with the gtx260m... However I did notice that BC2 plays much smoother on the gts360m... sigh .... is this because BC2 is more processor intense? The i5 on paper seems to be a much better processor than the vx's p7450 @ 2.13 ghz which could explain why.

 

I thought you were comparing both models with the same exact specs.
But yeah performance is just about the same

 

Hmm. You're saying the GTS 360m is running hotter than the GTX 260m? Something deems wrong there. Flip on Furmark for ten miutes or so and give us a screenshot. I'd be extremely disappointed if Asus somehow bungled by making a cooler GPU run warmer.

 

Yes it definitely generates more heat than my g60vx gtx 260m while gaming... I dont know if maybe its just my lappy or if it was from a bad batch... I can take the cover off and inspect the heat sinks or something .. I'd even be willing to exchange for another jx just to give it a chance.

When I get home I'll download Furmark, run for 10 minutes and take a hw mon screenie.. I'll show pics of my setup - which is basically just sitting on a desk with a targus lapdesk elevating the rear.. took that as a precaution in that I might have recycled hot air back underneath the laptop.... ambient room temp is 73 F... thanks!

 

So which is better to get, the G60 or the N61JQ-A1?

 

I upgraded my G60JX with a Core i7-820QM. Runs not hotter than with the i5-430M. I overclocked the GTS 360M to 630 / 1500 / 2100 and reached 11.900 3Dmarks ('06).

Temperatures of the 820QM under full load: ~ 65 Celsius
Temperatures of the GTS 360M in 3Dmark: ~ 84 - 87 Celsius

 

gts360 under full load - mwII and bc2 I'm seeing 87c also.. but not overclocking

 

Just seen the benchmarks and there looking good
Did you get this laptop at BestBuy?
I see your in Germany and it got me wondering if this is the same model.

 

650/1900/1500 is stable on this?

Can you test upping the OC on the Mem and Proc further? I found 615/2000/1600 to be stable, Nvidia states a given default Proc of 1476 and the Mem is stable up to 2000.

Can you please say what BIOS version you have, and if you have a 120W Power Adapter? I've been using 196.52, will test with 196.86 now then .

These scores are awesome

Peter

P.S.

Nice - once again showing beyond the overclocks that the GTS360M has shown itself capable so far... Can you post the sub scores btw? So we can see how much the CPU score went up with the upgrade? - Thanks.

 

I'm using the stock installed driver: 187.66

What version would someone recommend that might help my gpu run a little cooler?
mwII 87c and BC2 after about 10 minutes:

 

Run HWMonitor please while you game and tell us the temps it reports, that will give us some hard data to compare to .

Peter

 

hey peter, sorry I forgot to attach that screenie on page 8 of the thread... thats BC2 and basically MWII running a degree cooler... 88c tops on the gpu while playing.

 

Stupid newbie needs some advice. I am a paramedic and also am going to school full time, I have 1,000ish dollars to spend and can't make up my mind between this and the m11x. The m11x would be great because I could literally just pack it around in the ambulance without any issues (or so i envision) but i am concerned about the weak CPU. How much of a difference in performance am i going to see between this and the m11x in gaming, and normal tasks? The two big differences I see are the processor and gpu. I have looked up all of them, but still have trouble deciphering what it actually means... comparing the m11x GPU and CPU to this one, what am I looking at in terms of performance difference? Are there any other features on this that I am not catching that would be better or worse? Would my money be better spent here?

I will be mostly using this as a portable computer to take to work and pass the time with games (bioshock, mass effect, SC2 etc) movies, music etc between runs. Also plan to use it for school work, so accessing internet, word processing etc.. No photo editing or anything.

Thanks -
Confused Computer Idiot

 

Actually, take a picture of the actual furmark trial itself. I think you hit f10 to do the screenshot. It gives a graph so we can see how sharply temperature rises.

For comparison's sake run it at 1366x768 resolution, all effects checked off, and no AA, for ten minutes. If you feel it's getting too hot, abort after you take the screenshot.

 

@confused
The G60 will give you much better performance than the M11x .
For gaming I would guess the ASUS would perform at least 30% to 40% better.
Not that the M11x can't game but the only thing it has that's better is the mobility factor.

 

@confused
I am typing on a MX11 and it is a wonderful all around little guy.For what you described ,i would go for the MX11.like play anywhere you want , anytime you want plus sounds like it you will need a good battery life ,so again another vote for the Mx11.But,if you are a hard core gamer, very competitive and like to play online against the others ,get the ASus.I felt like my performance decreases playing TF2 when i am here comparing to my desktop on a 28 inches LCD.

 

ok will do! ... 91c Max ... I dont know how to insert this as a thumbnail sorry ...

 

Gotta give Asus props for their unique ability in incorporating heaters in notebooks.

 

Ugh. Maybe I should go for the VX. Those temps are concerning.

 

My Jx runs at 85c while playing games, my Vx ran at 88c. The processor on the other hand runs cooler on the Jx. And for non gpu intensive things the Jx runs a good amount cooler than the Vx.

 

Viper - what display driver are you using? thanks!

wish I would have run temps on my vx, i swear it was much cooler when playing MWII

 

Hey guys I am having trouble with my G60JX freezing while trying to enter a multiplayer Battlefield BC 2 game or when trying to enter steam. Does anyone know what the problem is?

 

I have not had any problems loading any games or with freezing - and they run very well.. i'm wondering what your temps are at when the freezing occurs?

Can you guys post what driver versions you're running?

 

I'm using the 196.86 drivers from laptopvideo2go. I posted the inf file that I used to install them in the G51Jx thread. I haven't had a single hitch running games so far.

 

Heh, check if you have installed Creative Software on your computer, along with Sound Audigy drivers/software. Uninstall those.

 

thanks Viper, I wasnt sure if you were still on those. I need to try those out thank you

 

Those temps are not too high - the G51J GTX260M would be at 100+*C running that same test for that period. I've been able to get up to 92*C running FurMark, but it's designed to overheat GPUs and push the limits. In game you won't get that hot. You should be fine . Note that when I ran all my benches and tests in my review and what I am referring to now the ambient temps were 19-22*C in the room, typical indoor winter heated temps - in Summer I might have the AC set to 25*C or so, but even still I don't expect to be going all out gaming with OC and so on in much hotter conditions, even if I go back to Greece in the Summer as last.

About the performance though - even with the new drivers I'm getting 9486 3DMarks'06: SM2.0 3998 SM3.0 3982 CPU 2970 - which is about 20% slower than your stock tests viper. So there must be something else. Can you confirm your BIOS version please? I'm trying to think what else it might be - did you reinstall the OS or are you running off the stock ASUS install? You can even overclock further... its like you have a Super GPU.

Everyone with G51Jx's are reporting values at least as low as mine if not lower yet with the exact same GPU. If we can try to figure out what's different that would be great .

Can anyone else with a G60Jx please post your 3DMark06 stock clock results?

Thanks a lot,
Peter

P.S. By the way, if heat is really a worry for you, you can under clock the GPU or apply thermal compound or do copper mods. Those values though seem to be normal to me, especially if your ambient temps are a bit warm.

 

If I'm interpreting the Furmark snapshot right, fans were at low settings up to about 85C or 86C. Fans kicked into medium at that point, which dropped the temperatures immediately, and then the temperatures still rose to 91C, whereupon the fans kicked to highest speed and dropped it down to 87C.

For reference, my medium-high speed starts at 86C and my high fan starts at 94C. This is with all kinds of mods and repastes and stuff.

Not bad at all for an unmodded system. Looks like Asus didn't quite drop the ball on this one at least.

 

@Ccz
Run the benchmarks with the laptop plugged in and set the power settings to performance.
Also in the Nvidia control panel set it to performance.
Worth a shot.

 

Ok thanks Forge and Peter - thats reassuring ... 100c is pretty darn hot for that gtx260 ...

Is there a way to kick the fans in at a highest speed setting for say above 80c temps?

When I'm done here (I work nights) I'll get 3dmark06 installed and run some benches to post here... As Ikas mentioned above, I am set to performance mode in the power settings. But I dont know if i'm set that way in the nvidia control panel - i'll check in a few hours. My laptop is pretty much stock with no OCn and the bloatware removed.

thanks again for all you guy's help