Asus G71

That I'm not sure about. I would think that you can OC the GPU while OCing the CPU with the Asus utility but I only use SetFSB so I can't confirm that.

 

Ok. thanks

 

Anyone thats having the fps drops, make sure ur not playing after putting your computer to sleep. apparently the issue re-appears after putting the computer to sleep, at least as i've personally seen...

edit:
and yes this is extreeeemely annoying.

 

ah so thats why it keeps dropping. i was like "why is this happening?"

could a bios update fix this?

 

At least for me, if I use the Asus overclocking utility, it resets the GPU's clock speed to factory settings. I use ntune to oc the GPU. It doesn't really matter though. The 3dMark06 score OCing the CPU with the Asus utility nets a similiar score to using stock CPU settings with an OC'd GPU.

 

Hmm, thats strange. but i wonder if it would do the same with RivaTuner.

Well, hopefully, ill soon be able to see for myself!

 

This keeps scaring me into wanting to grab the G51vx, which hasn't had any problems day 1 with the exception of high heat...
But I want a 17" laptop and with the G71GX-RX05 going to be my first ever laptop, it will also be my first computer with 6GB of ram (always been using 4GB). So currently, it is still a fight/decision between the two computers in my sig (below), an in-store purchase laptop (first as well, always did online purchases) or an online purchase (Would be my first ATi card, always trusted Nvidia). Still deciding though, a week or two more before a final decision, MSI better hurry (still only available for Pre-order) or I'm going for the Asus (Just have to stop by Best Buy and walk out.) I'm probably going to get the Asus G71GX-RX05 though, I visit Best Buy often while I've been on vacation !

 

Delete liveupdate asap. Worthless piece of crap.

Seriously if you wanna game you should reboot anyways so you have the least things running and least resources used.

 

Agreed, I uninstalled it on my desktop. I've always updated my computer manually - especially Bios.

Which I will and do currently anyway. The only time I would use sleep anyway (or at least wake it up from) is for checking up stuff on the web quickly and docs. Out of the two [Gaming] laptops from Asus at Best Buy, I'll still go for the G71GX-RX05 (reasons mentioned in last post.)

 

im just a little ticked about the sleep thing cause i liked using my g1 for every day stuff cause it has the nicer screen and is smaller, and keep the g71 on sleep so i can jump on wow or a game really quick, Sleep it before going to class so i dont have to shut down and boot back up. etc

edit: wow has yet to push my gpu bast 73 degrees tho lol

 

Since the RX05 at Bestbuy doesnt have the HDD Caddy for the second drive (right?)

Where can you buy one? Hopefully cheap?

 

Here its the same one.

http://estore.asus.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=4410&catid=606

 

I believe Forge has put in another harddrive without using the Caddy.

IIRC, he said that there is some foam in there that will support the HDD so the caddy is optional.

As for buying it, look it up in the Asus store or contact a reseller

 

Thank you very much! Just what I was looking for

Sounds good, but id rather be safe and sound and buy one.

Thanks for your response.

 

This is kind of wierd, but last night I overclocked the cpu (2.7 Ghz and never wen thigher than 63 C) and undervolted it. Ran Orthos for 30 mins after I got a desired volatge (1.125v), and everything ran very smoothly. Set the programs to load on startup, and rebooted. Everything seemed fine, but when I checked the GPU clock speeds (which I had oc'd and is set upon start up), and they had reverted to factory settings. If I use the Asus performance utility to overclock the cpu the same thing happens.

Anyone have any idea why? They are not connected in any way so I find it to be bizarre that this is happening.

 

I believe the Asus performance utility overrides any software GPU overclock. The only way to avoid this would be to use SetFSB.

 

And that's what perplexes me. When I undervolted and overclocked the cpu (using your fantastic guide btw ), I used SetFSB to increase it ~6% to 2.7 ghz. After rebooting, the changes to the cpu worked, but the gpu reverted to stock settings.

What's even wierder, is that after I disabled SetFSB and Crystal CPUID from loading on start-up, the GPU still refused to overclock on restart unless I did it manually. In fact, I ended up deleting both programs, and reinstalled nvidia's nTools to get it to work again. Maybe something was corrupted in nTools and the changes to the cpu were non-related. I might give it a go again this evening to see what happens.

 

Can someone tell me what the GPU clocks are on this computer and what they are supposed to be?

 

The default is 500/800/1250. I've been overclocking to 580/900/1400, but I might tone it down a little. I haven't had any heat issues at those settings, and last night I scored 10680 on 3dMark06. I'm going record the exact difference with the gpu at stock, and the Asus performance utility running. I ran it Sunday when I got the laptop, and I know it was ~10500 but I can't recall specifically, and I think people might want to know the difference to decide whether it's worth it to OC the GPU or CPU.

 

They come at 500/800/1250

"Real" stock GTX 260M clocks are 550/950/1375

 

Ah, thanks a lot for the info. My G71GX should be here any day now, Ive been reading this thread from the beginning but i just recently registered on the forums. Everyone here has been really helpful.

One last question though, does 'overclocking' it back to the real stock gtx 260m clocks create any substantial over heating issues?

 

It depends on how good your system is cooling wise. There should be a noticeable temperature increase though so most people keep it at stock Asus clocks for most games and only bump it up for something like Crysis or benchmarking

 

For those of us wondering about 12GB of DDR2 in these laptops, Newegg has a great price on a 4GB stick (maybe its a typo!?)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161339

Who wants to take the plunge?

 

Well....it says that its a Dual Channel Kit under specifications so it is most likely just 2 x 2GB

 

Lol, I've been talking to TevashSzat about this ALL day via PM ! Thanks again by the way TevashSzat!

 

Just noticed BB upped the price online to $1,299.99.. I picked mine up a week or so ago for the normal price, just so happened to be the last one left in my area

 

I just bought this laptop a few days ago and I'm very happy with it.
I just read about the graphics card heating issue. I have bios 1302 now, so will that be an issue? >_>
How do I change it back to the better bios?

Also, I set the laptop to balanced power mode and it began freezing and unfreezing at random spots. Like, the computer would freeze, but the mouse would still move. Then programs would enter "not responding" state and would cause the laptop to lockup in which I can't open any new programs or close them using task manager. They just sit there in vista. The mouse is still moveable though.

After a bit everything jumps back from the freeze and the windows will close and everything is fine again. Most of the time the freezes are seconds long. A few times now though it froze for so long (20+ minutes) and I just shut it down with the power button and start it up again.

I have since changed it back to high performance power setting. I haven't experienced the freezing issue since changing back to high performance but I'm afraid it may come back. Does anyone know if this is just a power plan thing or if might it be some bigger issue with my laptop?

Also, note, for the first two days it was on high performance plan. Only after I did balanced power plan and some services tweaks did it begin freezing and unfreezing.

And I only just switched it back to high performance about an hour ago so I'm waiting to see if there are anymore freezes.

Help?

Last thing, this laptop has underclocked video card? Again, I don't really do anything like play crysis or somewhat. The most graphically demanding game I play is guild wars and it runs 60fps fine. Should I clock it to normal clock speeds or leave the gpu speeds as it is?

And the memory is underclocked? I do not use turbogear or overclock my cpu in anyway. Does this mean my memory is running normally or is my memory underclocked? Should I change this?

 

Wow the price of went from 1150 to 1300 on the BB website.
Stinks if you dont have one ordered yet.


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366615&type=product&id=1218092150740

 

I'm pretty sure the memory is under clocked unless you disable turbogear in the bios. Correct me if im wrong.

 

I searched all Newegg RAM under the filters of 200-pin DDR2 and 4 GB (As opposed to the 2x2GB setting) capacity. The Wintec stick(s?) still showed up.

I'd be wary, though. I notice that the Wintec is the only item to display two sticks in the image, while all the other products have a single unit in their pictures.

Plus the next expensive item is $135.

Even worse, the 2x2GB kits are listed about the same price as the Wintec.

 

I picked up a G71 from BB this past weekend and love it but I am curious how much crapware is put on it between bestbuy and Asus.

It has a 500g hard drive.

I have installed some games, crysis, FC2 and COD4. and I finally took a look at my remaining hard drive space and I am down to 350! Will have to check how much room those games are taking up but between that and vista I am still trying to grasp 150g?

How much does vista (64) take up?

Guess I should spend more time cleaning!!

 

There is a hidden partition that lets you restore the computer to factory settings.

Also, Vista's system restore takes up a ton of space.

 

Best Buy just jacked up the price on the G71 to $1299. Ouch.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9366615&type=product&id=1218092150740

 

Wow......at that price you might as well just go get a G51Vx-X1A

 

Just a quick question, i know many of you run your laptops overclocked, but just wondering about the powersavig setting, asus g71 comes with tubrogear kinda like tampres with powersavings with 3 modes (powersaving, Standard, overclock), when checking the windows power options it always displays Asus Standard/Powersaving etc. While gaming (pluged to eletrical current) should i swap the power management to High performace or the Standard mode is fine or will it restrict me of CPU while gaming?

 

Yep. That sucks

...Doesnt look like im getting it now...

 

That's complete crap how they think they can jack up the price..Maybe I should have gotten one instead of my G51, the 17 inch screen has advantages

 

Hello everybody,

I am new here so hopefully I will not break forum rules right away

I just got G71 and going through small optimization. However I stuck on CPU frequency, which fluctuates along with multiplier ~1.8-2.8(6-9.5) when laptop runs either at normal settings or in OC mode through Asus TurboGear.
So I am guessing that there is something in Bios that needs to be turned off.

So far I only turned off Intel SpeedStep, but there are 7 more options that I have no idea about. Here is the list:

Ratio CMOS Setting [Auto]
Hardware Prefetcher[Enabled]
Adjucement Cache Line Prefetch[Enabled]
Intel Virtualization Tech[Enabled]
CPU TM Function[Enabled]
Execute-DIsable Bit Capability[Enabled]
Core Multi-Processing [Enabled]
Intel SpeedStep Tech [Disabled]

I tried to set "Ratio CMOS Setting" to 9.5, but that did no help, CPU frequency/Multiplier keeps jumping in CPUZ.

Maybe somebody had experience and can give a hand here?

Would very much appreciate that

P.S. Just found one anomaly: When I start windows, Asus starts at "ASUS standard mode", with 2.53Mhz/9.5 Multiplier, as soon as I either enable Turbogear or set comp to OC mode (in Power Options) Core Speed and Multiplier start to fluctuate.

 

Maybe they are making room price wise to fit in between the g60, but i dont even know if bb will have it. Either way i think its too much what they raised.

 

With stock clocks and CUDAATS Level 5 Mod, Crysis ran smoothly with DOX 185.85 drivers. But I encountered some lag with Crysis Warhead.

Leave the GPU as it is. I can run Crysis fine, as stated above WITH stock speeds. This is only for those hardcore who want the most possible with minimal impact, IMO.

Try playing a game or running furmark from cold boot and see if you get the issue with 1302.

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/reduce-system-restores-disk-usage-in-vista/

Follow this guide to help reduce the system restore size. I am using 20GB but you can use whatever you want.

Played Crysis and Prototype with 2.91 Ghz overclocked and noticed no difference to be honest. I think at this point it's the GPU. I can't answer the last question for you because I never change that since I use Rightmark Utility which sets the performance for me since I undervolted.

 

That is normal. Your CPU changes multipliers and voltages depending on the load. Do not turn it off because it improves battery life and reduces heat. When you are gaming, your CPU will go up to the max multiplier and voltage.

Also, its preferable to google up what the settings in the BIOS does before tinkering with them.

 

Oh, I see,

Thanks for the clarification! Does GPU work the same way? That is whe the required application is launched sensors should show say, 500/800Mhz for GPU/Memory?

I am curious as I followed your G51 optimization guide and can't figureout why on GPU sensors I see 200/120MHz while no applications that heavily use the card, some fluctuation 300+-500Mhz with application loaded. Factory default listed as 500/800

I also run prime95 and stops after just 5 steps, with harware failure on worker1; but 2nd worker still ok Maybe that is the reason:

 

That's PowerMizer kicking in, olbb2. It's the same as SpeedStep on Intel CPU's.

 

Is that something normal (I don't have a battery installed right now, so I am wandering what is it trying to save ) or should it be disabled? I can't seem to find it in the processes list either.

 

PowerMizer is controlled by the Nvidia driver. You will either need to disable it through registry, or disable it by downloading the PowerMizer button. I suggest not touching it as your GPU will ramp up when it needs the power to execute what you ask it to do.

Your CPU and GPU will downclock to save power and minimize heat. If you like a warmer G51 while idling at desktop or light work, then be my guest. I'm not going to stop you. Just keep in mind that your fan will spin faster more frequently and suck up more dust in the process.

 

Thanks

Now I have enough information to think about

 

What's there to think about? You only have two choices, and one of them isn't a good one.

 

Just to update anyone who might care, lol- I used Asus' CPU overclocking utility to set the CPU at 10%. I ran 3dMark06 and scored 10565. So if you decide to overclock the CPU and not the GPU, the difference is pretty negligable, and you're not going to risk overheating the GPU.

 

Same here... this is outrageous of Best Buy to do this!?! First they tried to add $50 to the great price $1149, everyone got into an uproar and Best Buy dropped it back down. Now Best Buy feels comfortable to slap an additional $150 to the $1149 price tag. $1300...
I'm sorry, for what's wrong with the computer still (sleep problem, ram underclocking, etc.), $1149 was a forgivable and great price for me to accept the flaws because it seemed to be a great deal for a "high spec" computer. Not anymore, and sadly I see Best Buy upping the price even more in a month or two.

Thanks Best Buy, you now have lost a potential customer (I planned on getting it next week) and I will take my business elsewhere. For the same price, I can grab the MSI GT729 that has a better graphics card (ATi 4850 1GB DDR3 > GTX 280m), DDR3 Ram (4 GB, I plan on "upgrading" to 64bit myself), better screen (1680 X 1050>1440 X 900), and has a turbo button as well. Unless I change my mind (highly unlikely), I bid you Asus owners adieu...

Sig Edited due to Best Buy...

 

The G51 is quite a hot item. I'm not surprised they had to raise the price.