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    Asus G71

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by RedNara, Jun 26, 2009.

  1. Thunder279

    Thunder279 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have not tested this out to see. But A) I usually never put my lappy to sleep and B) my temps never go above 76°C

    When I get home from work today, I will test this out even run my laptop in an oven if i have to get it above 82°C!!!
     
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    I have 1501 installed and the the under clocking issue is still present after wake. The under clocking issue was still present for me even with 1201 after waking from sleep.

    I hope Asus fixes this issue, although I'm now starting to have my doubts because it's a hard issue to troubleshoot.

    I've RMA'd my laptop already to fix this issue and Asus did was replace the ram and it still didn't fix the issue. I believe everyone's laptop has this bug with every bios. Very annoying considering this is a laptop
     
  3. SaintSoul

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    Well, If i buy the g71-x501 what is the first think i should install, only the newest bios for gaming or something else?
     
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    " a couple of hours" isn't a good barameter.. play your laptop for 4+ hours straight and let me know how hot it gets... I can play most laptops for 1-2 hours and it won't get that hot... also what games were you playing?


    most gaming "sessions' tend to go past two hours

    really GPU heavy games will cook any laptop including FX's and any alienware machine.
     
  5. jayndasun

    jayndasun Notebook Enthusiast

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    get the latest Bios 1201 if you can find it, if not I guess you're forced to download the 1501

    and get the DOX video drivers...(at the begining of this thread)

    besides a cruise and my current Temprapedic bed.. the best $1200 I've spent well worth it
     
  6. Nothing is Real

    Nothing is Real Notebook Evangelist

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    You guys are updating the bios with using easyflash right? Here is a guide as to how to use EasyFlash http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=174395

    After trying WinFlash and updating through the Asus Live Update, the problems still persisted, but after using EasyFlash everything now works great.
     
  7. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    Don't have time for 5-hours session, but I can run 10/20-minutes GPU stress test using OCCT:
    http://downloads.guru3d.com/OCCT-(OverClock-Checking-Tool)-3.0.0-download-1880.html
    or run Crysis benchmark 20-times (non-stop)
    and post screenshot with temps.
    Of course I'll be waiting for yours results too ;)
     
  8. TevashSzat

    TevashSzat Notebook Deity

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    Seriously....pictures or it never happened. Also, have notepad opened with your name written on it within the picture too. (IE, OCCT open, GPU-Z open to the standard tab showing the clocks, HWMonitor open, Notepad open with your name on it.)

    I've kinda noticed how alot of the Gateway FX owners have somehow wandered into this thread saying how much better their machine is. I'm all for comments and such but it seems like its just trolling. People who have just bought a new system and have gotten excited about it don't need to be told how poorly designed or bad their system is in an attitude like that.
     
  9. Thunder279

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    You tell him Tev!
     
  10. MasterShake89

    MasterShake89 Notebook Evangelist

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    i dont think ifrin was trying to troll us, he was just pointing out that he didnt agree with the "get a cooler or dont consider gaming" comment. if you think about it, these laptops are DESIGNED with gaming in mind by seasoned professionals. Your laptops are designed to have optimal airflow already, and only a cooler that is a perfect match for your machine will prove of any benefit.
     
  11. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    20-minutes OCCT GPU test:
    [​IMG]
    There's no HWMonitor running in first test, because when I've started it i got message that OCCT actually is using HWMonitor for checking temperatures and if they both running together information can be corrupted.
    Crysis benchmark run 20-times:
    [​IMG]
    Sorry, to read that.
    But if I'm trolling, then some post in this thread sound to me like fanboyism.
    Have mercy!...I'm scared to death already ;) .
     
  12. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    What's the shutdown temperature of a 8800m GTS?
     
  13. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't access vBios so I'm not sure, but i read somewhere about 8800M GTS OC and laptop was shutting down after reaching 100C on GPU.
     
  14. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    And people with the 260m GPUs have hit as high as 102C without getting any errors or artifacts. I think catastrophic shutdown/downclock is a bit higher than this, but there you go.

    The reason I bring this is up is that you're trying to compare apples and oranges. The 260m is not a 8800m GTS, and it's unfair to compare two hours of gaming on a 8800m GTS against 4+ hours with a 260m.

    Once those new FX laptops that pack 260m GPUs come out, that would be a very valid comparison.
     
  15. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    So you think theres gonna be difference in temp. on my GPU between 2 and 4 hours? No game stress out GPU in 100% whole time (theres less demanding parts, loading screens, videos etc. where GPU can cool down) thats why people using program like Furmark or OCCT. You can play Crysis for five hours and never reach temps like in 20-minutes stress in OCCT (or Furmark).
    If it makes difference for you I can run GTA IV tomorrow for 4+hours and post screenshot (with temp. and gameplay time)
    OK. Then what about comparing oranges and oranges.
    Alienware M17X with dual GTX 280M never passes 82C under 100% stress:
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Alienware-M17x-Gaming-Notebook.18781.0.html
    Different technology or better cooling solution?
    P.S.
    Can you run OCCT test on (20-minutes) and post screenshot?
     
  16. SoundOf1HandClapping

    SoundOf1HandClapping Was once a Forge

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    Defensive, aren't we.
     
  17. TevashSzat

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    @Ifrin

    I thought you had a Gateway sporting a 9800M GTS.....of course a 8800M GTS will have alot better temps.

    8800M GTS runs on 50 Watts while the GTX 260M runs on 75 watts which is a 50% increase in power consumption.....which can hardly be compared against each other. The G71 can run Crysis at maxed settings very well while I doubt yours can.

    I can take out some random $500 laptop with integrated graphics and say how the GPU runs so cool compared to your laptop and it means squat because you're not comparing the same level of technology.

    The newer Gateway models sporting a 9800M GTS do indeed have better temps than a G71 but it is hardly to that an extent.

    And in regards to fanboyism: of course there will be some because alot of here are computer enthusiasts who feel passionate about our computers. You don't go off spouting how your laptop is obviously better than ours with that kind of attitude because it just isn't common sense. Its like if I just went into the Apple forums and started posting in the threads how great Vista is compared to OSX - you don't do that since it can only bring trouble.
     
  18. MasterShake89

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    hey guys, just ran Furmark in the stability test mode windowed, and i just wanna know what kinda results i should have seen from my gpu, I saw the temp go as high as 102celcius and then stopped the test in fear of pushing too hard. Would it have kept climbing?
     
  19. TevashSzat

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    I believe it maxes out around there.
     
  20. MasterShake89

    MasterShake89 Notebook Evangelist

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    realistically how high could any modern game push the gpu temps?
     
  21. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    Depends on what "modern game".

    A bully like Crysis can kick you to the 90+ range.

    Tev has had experience with Prototype, and it doesn't heat the GPU--relatively speaking--at all.
     
  22. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    Then another example 15.4" laptop with GTX 260M (check screen with Furmark):
    http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-mySN-XMG5-Clevo-M860TU-Notebook.17146.0.html
    Different power consumption, or maybe Asus did "not so good job" with cooling department?
    I'm not trying to say, that G71Gx is bad gaming laptop, only that i was expecting better (especially in 17") from company (Asus) which is known for making excellent products.
    P.S.
    I've own Asus Z81SP laptop (now is in my younger brother hands) and after more than 3years still runs fine. Loud but cool on GPU (Three fans inside ;) )
     
  23. MasterShake89

    MasterShake89 Notebook Evangelist

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    ah... so its not in danger of being ko'd by a game (at least one thats not in existance today)
    and forge/tev, how much of a boost could i expect to see if I tried to push the gtx260 back to stock clock rates? and is it hard?
     
  24. Nothing is Real

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    I got a more than 100 point boost in 3dMark06 when I OC'd the GPU to stock clocks. It's not hard, just use nTools if you have the DoX drivers or use Rivatuner if you are using the Nvidia drivers.
     
  25. Abula

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    I think everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but for me the G71GX is nothing but outstanding, is it the best laptop out there... probably not, but for its price, its really competitive.

    Call me a fanboy, but for me, the G71 delivers, going back to basics, you buy a computer like this because you have need to play and be able to move with it. Most of us dont buy it to see how high it can OC or how cool it runs, we mostly buy it to supply a need, in my case to play my games when I'm on the road. And here where the g71 delivers, i can play most of my games at very high settings being stable and solid performer, the rest... i don't care.
     
  26. korydenver

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    I just update my bios using easyflash and tested, GPU underclocking issue still persist after waking up from sleep. Doesn't matter how you install the bios or which version you use. If you put your laptop to sleep mode GPU issues will arise again. Just restart before playing games. With a fresh restart I play WoW for hours, GPU temp arround 87-88C no problems at all. I still think this is a very nice laptop for the price. Maybe they will fix this issue later on. I always play my games with a fresh restart because I have experienced low performance issues in my previous laptops when I put them hibarnate, sleep then start playing games.
     
  27. grandfinale

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    With undervolting I don't think I ever hit above 84C, and getting to 84C is rare. Often the more common max temps are 78-80C.
     
  28. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    That's it?

    Or did you mean 1000 points?
     
  29. Melinapayne

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    does anyone have a problem with their internet chugging? dialup loads faster than my ISP on this computer. UGH! i have Time Warner Roadrunner, too! this is rediculous!
     
  30. Nothing is Real

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    Yes.

    OOPS
     
  31. MasterShake89

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    is this the first time its happend since you have owned the computer?
     
  32. Melinapayne

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    no, it happens all the time, on and off
     
  33. slayer41

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    I just went with my dad to pick up this beast on Wednesday, and I am not disappointed. The screen is great looking, runs games flawlessly, good design with the keyboard, and just is a great machine. I have no double typing issue.

    When I got to the store with my dad we picked out a mouse (Logitech MX518), great mouse by the way, and my dad asked the guy if there was anyway he could take some money off the laptop. At first the guy was hesitant and said he could only take off ten dollars or something stupid, but then he went and talked to his manager and ended up throwing in the mouse for free. It was 52 dollars to begin with.

    If anyone goes to pick up this dont be afraid to ask for them to throw in a free accessory. Just remember that they are catering to you and make it known to them that you have no problem going to the next town over and visiting the best buy there.

    Do you guys think I should install the 1502 bios? because the live update keeps bothering me about it. Also I tried installing the Dox Drivers and i did everything by the book. But when i booted back up in safe mode to use driversweeper, the computer said "Found new hardware" and proceeded to install the old drivers. Anyone got any help for me on this issue?
     
  34. SoundOf1HandClapping

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    I don't own a G71, but most owners say to just stick with 1201.
     
  35. Ifrin

    Ifrin Notebook Evangelist

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    And good for you.
    But some (looking for new laptop) people do care, about temperature, screen, downclocking ect. So if I pay $1200 (or more) I want to know, that money was well spend.
    I didn't started this discussion, just answer to statement that you need cooling pad, or you shouldn't be using gaming laptop-which isn't true.
    Since my first "gaming laptop" (with GF 4) purchased in 2001 (Gateway is my fifth laptop) I've never need or used cooling pad. So, I preferred things to stay that way.
     
  36. ahl395

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    So what are some (stable) overclocks people have achieved on this thing? :D

    Anyone get the P8700 up to 3GHz?
    ...I think i read earlier that yu should get like 2.9. :eek:

    And how about the GPU? Clocks and temps? :p

    And also, can you control the fans? :D
     
  37. AmatuerClocker

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    ahl395,
    I'm running the gpu at 530/848/1250. The cpu runs at 2.91 ghz. The cpu freezes the OS at 3.0 ghz after 30 min on my system. I run a laptop cooler and ambient in the house is kept at 76F.
     
  38. TevashSzat

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    GPU maxes out at around 89C for normal games (Fallout 3, GTA IV, etc...), low 90s for maxed out Crysis.

    You can't control the fans unless you know how to edit the BIOS.....
     
  39. ahl395

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    okay.
    thanks to the two above. :)
     
  40. Abula

    Abula Puro Chapin

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    I just got it last week, havent OC yet, just been testing it and moding the cooler. But i got some runs in yesterday in case its worth it for you or anyone, they are 10min runs with Furmark n IntelBurntest together in different scenarios, most runs were done back to back so ambient temp is about the same, just the last 2 were done like 5 hours after (time that i used to swap the fans on the cooler) so there is a difference on the ambient temp.

    [​IMG]
     
  41. da1writer

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    Found 3 new videos showing off the G71GX in action!

    Crysis SP Demo:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNrLhJFDkQ

    Street Fighter 4:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ246eQeGd8

    Call of Duty 4:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWcwAppshpk

    Get my G71GX-RX05 (or make the final decision) in a few weeks now. I want to be the first to upload an unboxing video. Someone did the G51vx but not one person has done a G71GX unboxing video, strange but I'll do it though for ya'll soon :D ! Oh and enjoy the videos I posted above (not done by me though).
     
  42. ahl395

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    Cool thanks. :)

    I plan to do one when i get it.
    ...I plan to buy it in the next month or two, before November..... :D
     
  43. cksh

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    Finally picked up my G71 from BB this weekend. What a great machine (except for the fps issue). Screen looks better then I thought it would. This is replacing my 6 y/o desktop that I am tired of upgrading.

    Been playing farcry2, COD MW, and crysis.

    Crysis started giving me trouble though. It came with 1201 installed and I was barely into the game when I heard the fan speed up and then the fps dropped huge. Anyone install 1501 yet? Does this solve the issue? I did not have time last night to check temp. The Asus updater keeps asking me to install 1302 or 1501.

    If I have this issue with 1201 did I buy a lemon? I have been reading that not everyone has this problm with 1201.

    Thanks!
     
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    i want to replace the wifi card here with a combo wifi n and bluetooth 2.x card. Can anyone point me to the right direction. and i want to stay away from arthoes cards as they are garbage with my wrt600n by linksys, as soon as i go up stairs i drop off and I also use ubuntu and may go to open suse 11.1
     
  45. VaderSith

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    I bought one this weekend as well...I had to drive 1 hr and 15 mins to get it, but totally worth it. I got the crapware off the computer, and when prompted, I did install the new bios through the updater to v. 1501. I installed Crysis and Crysis Warhead and did not experience any issues. Kepp in mind, I only played the first 5 mins of each just to test so I may not have played as long as you. You should not be experiencing the fps drop if your bios is 1201. There have been reported problems with fps drops after the laptop goes into powersave mode (I believe), so if yours was in such a state prior to playing you probably will experience the issue. Only solution atm is a reboot.

    The only issue I had was with the video card...I couldn't update using nVidia's official drivers from their website, so I used Windows Update's drivers which is a newer version anyway. After using ntune to overclock to 600/900/1400 (which is what I oc my 8000M gts on my P-6860fx), I had 3dMark06 crash on me twice. However, I've run it twice sense then, and have had 0 issues. The only other issue I noticed is that if you OC the cpu using the utility provided by Asus, the GPU reverts to stock settings.
     
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    use windows update to get the 180 veersion i think. it is only a little behind the curve and it works with windows 7 too adn crysis seems to work cranked up to 1440x900 very high all setting
     
  48. ahl395

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    Stock meaning...nVidia stock? or Asus Stock clocks? :p
    Doesnt Asus have a utility to OC the GPU as well as the CPU?

    Also :)D), do you have to use the Asus Utility? or are the OC'ing in the BIOS also?

    Awesome! Sounds great. :eek:
     
  49. TevashSzat

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    The Asus OC utility only does the CPU.
     
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    Oh, ok.

    So, you cannot use the Asus CPU OC Utility, and say, RivaTuner for the GPU? :eek:
    Because using the asus CPU OC will set the GPU to stock again?
     
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