Asus G71

Well idk if there are other alternatives, probably wait for others to post before doing the following. You could Flash you videocard to whatever clocks you want as permanent solution so you dont need to use 2 overclocking software, or you could also use SetFSB to OC the cpu. Tev's An Optimization Guide for the Asus G51

 

Thank you for the reply Abula.

Unfortunately when I try to flash my card using Tev's Guide, nvflash would not work. Under DOS, no matter how I use nvflash - with or without any parameters, always get "General Protection Fault" and some memory address listed. Tried at least 3 different versions of nvflash and all of them do the same.

When I use SetFSB to OC the CPU, I only get about 2.6 Ghz stable and going further up, I get lock ups. I give that to the undervolting, but I wonder how Turbo Gear manages to OC the CPU using the same low voltages ? Are the 2 programs using differnet methods to OC the CPU?

 

You probably should check with Da1writer, since he has a G71 and has OC his P8700 to 2.88, and EIement that can run it at 3.12.

 

I want to get my son an amazing game for this laptop for Christmas. Quite frankly, he bought the system for the bling and hasnt an idea what it is capable of.

Can anyone suggest an ideal game for the system, one that will truly show what it is capable of?

 

Well im not sure its gona be as demanding as Crysis, but one of most anticipated games for the year is COD:MW2 (although some are angry at the fact of no dedicated servers, and no mods for pc), but imo still a great game to buy. Borderlands is another game that its getting a lot of attention atm, idk if its only the flavor of the month, but a lot of people seem to like it. Not sure what you son likes, but another game that its getting a lot of hype atm is Dragon Age: Origins, i would still go for new COD but those are some other options.

 

This happens to me too but found the solution. What you need to do first is overclock [with Turbogear] the CPU and then AFTER THAT overclock the GPU. THEN you can have the CPU AND GPU overclocked. For some odd reason whenever you do it the other way around (overclock GPU and then Overclock CPU), the GPU likes to revert back to stock clocks. You can also try what Abula has mentioned as well.

 

Thanks, it worked!

 

Has a fix for the 82C bug come out?

I know that the GPU downclocking can be avoided by using a new BIOS and rebooting after sleep, but it would be nice if you didn't need to do the workaround.

 

is the dox 185.5 still the best driver or 186.82?

 

has anyone ever tried puting quad in their g71 yet?

 

the fix has been out for months. try the newest oldest bios. Newest, Not so new, third

 

so the thermal issue that reared its head after putting your computer to sleep is gone?

because even after the thermal issue was resolved, if you put your computer to sleep and then woke it up, the problem will have resurfaced, and only be repairable via a reboot.

 

Yes, I've tried each BIOS up through 1704 and the bug manifests if the computer has been asleep since it's last boot. I was hoping there was some fix beyond the released BIOSes.

 

Has anyone lost their 5.1 support? I now don't have the option labeled 5.1 surround, just the 2 speaker 24 bit in the drop down menu. Also, the tab labeled dolby digital under hdmi is completely gone. I'm not sure when it happened, but could have been from windows "upgrading" the nvidia driver. I did rollback which didnt help, then downloaded the audio and display drivers from asus's site and installed them but still just 2 speaker...

 

oh, THAT issue, i thought you meant the other issue with the regular downclocking. My mistake. There is no fix for that yet.


Has anyone had screen flicker issues?

 

i have had it as you know, and also, i figure if asus hasnt fixed a problem with the g71 by now, they wont since they already discontinued it. this will be the last asus laptop i buy probably....

 

Same here. The first and last. I'm probably going to call them, or try to fix it myself by taking the backplate off and seeing if its just a loose cable. That shouldn't be too hard... right?

 

can anyone here g71 user send me a picture of 3DMARK06 result with original spek without overclocking and original G71 windows experience index? thanks before

 

My battery seems to have died. Last week it was giving me weird numbers, 10% left 1 hour, 90% left 30 minutes, etc...
This morning it shut down when it still had 40% left. I used the BIOS to recalibrate it. But now it's staying at 0% and it won't go up.

I don't move my laptop and I don't plan to move it anywhere off of my desk. Should I buy a new battery? Or just take this one out and use only the AC?

Edit: Never mind, I took out the battery and put it back in, maybe it dislodged or something? Now it's reading 6% and increasing, I hope it doesn't fail me again...

 

Ok-

I bought a brand new, ASUS G71G-Q1 last February, since then, the user-controlled overclock feature ASUS advertised was disabled right out of the box, and ASUS could not supply an answer to why, until just a few months ago, (the phone operator's confusing story boiled down to: the shared CPU/GPU cooler cant handle the extra heat of an O/C'd quad-core)

I've also learned ASUS Declared they are not supporting windows 7 on the G71-G quad-core models (q1/q2) -why? ASUS will not say ANYTHING about why, -your guess is as good as mine.

Experience dictates that ASUS Tech support has largely abandoned us G71G owners, who have, since then, (gotten very ticked off at ASUS, and) subsequently discovered on their own that 64-bit Win7 DOES run properly on the g71-g Quad core series, using drivers gathered from other G71models, and intel's & atheros' websites. Due to ASUS's denial of official W7 drivers made just for our model, and ASUS' official position that these $2000 laptops, released on the eve of the Windows 7 rollout, are limited to use 64-bit Vista ONLY.

This has caused much concern about how well (or if) ASUS will honor their Two-Year warranty on the G71G quad-core models, (will we hear: " sorry sir, we're unable to answer your technical questions because you are not using an approved operating system on your laptop")

Based on previous experience in dealing with ASUS technical support about mine, I suspect they will try to tell me such things. And if I should try to make a warranty claim, I am reminded about the complaints on the ASUS' own discussion boards about ASUS Quad-core laptops sent in for warranty work being lost in transit, or lost at the ASUS warranty facility, and replaced with a different, less expensive model they had not discontinued yet, with slightly inferior specs to the Quad-core G71.

Dont get me wrong, I love my Quad-core G71G! it is the best performing, most solidly built laptop I have ever owned, I love the huge screen, the Blu-Ray, the secondary LED display, HDMI output, and ASUS' modified linux vs Vista dual boot arrangement is fantastic! but their factory support for this model is spectacularly miserable and oblivious according to my personal experiences with them. If I want to know more about this laptop, or how to improve it, Experience dictates I am on my own.

************ I said all that to set the stage for this Question:************​

Since this is a QUAD core using a shared CPU/GPU cooler that appears designed to do its best at slightly overcooling the GPU and a DUAL core CPU, would voiding the (questionable) warranty and installing some arctic silver 5 be the smartest thing to try on both CPU AND the GPU? or is there better stuff? (I heard somewhere there is better than A/S 5 for the GPU out there) My Nvidia 9800m GS GPU is running about 70-71 celsius after just surfing the web & typing letters for just a few hours on my wood tabletop, and it's temps have caused thermal shutdowns while editing video or doing some intense graphics work.

It seems the ability to cool down the GPU & CPU temps is the only weak spot this laptop's design has. besides that, the G71G-q1's an awesome machine, I just wish its Manufacturer lived up to their advertising, kept it more realistic, and treated this model's owner(s) to some better respect & responsibility.

 

Is this the picture you're referring to?


http://www.gentechpc.com/Asus/G71g_review/bottom.jpg


If so, Yes, that appears to be a modular, Nvidia/MXM type video card.

For more on this architecture, start your education here:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Upgrade-Replace-a-Notebook-Video-Card.3236.0.html

There are better video cards than the G71G's 9800m gs (with 512mb vram) these days, and some of them are installed on newer editions of the G71, which use the same motherboard anyway. Suggesting an easy upgrade if you can find such a card as a spare part someplace.

IN THEORY: one might be able to get a better MXM-type laptop video card from a newer G71, update drivers, maybe a Bios update, and BAM! Better Video!

If anyone can scavenge the the 1GB video card from a broken G71gx, and put it in a G71v or G71G, I would love to hear how it works out!

Maybe the Video Cards from the G72's could work too? MXM card connectors are pretty much standard -But I did read someplace that ASUS tweaks the MXM technology a little bit on their MXM cards, so only MXM cards from other ASUS products should be a perfect fit, the same article said the G72's use an "MXM 2.1" socket

-help me out here, does the G71 have the same MXM socket/version?

I have never seen the internals of a G72 yet, or run CPU-Z (or similar) on one to ID all the components and the motherboard version inside, but I see ASUS specs suggest the Quad-core G72 is almost an identical twin of the G71G inside. --identical CPU, Ram, & performance specs to the Quad-core G71G, --except for a better video card -containing the same GPU/DDR3 Vram combo as the card in the G71GX.

Hmmmmmmmm!

IN THEORY- THE ASUS G71 HAS AN UPGRADEABLE VIDEO CARD!

anybody got access to the spare parts to try it?

 

I just installed this screen http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150403677147&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
on my G71GX-RX05. FITS IT PERFECTLY, the resolution makes everything CRISP CLEAR aka no more grainy screen. Installation is a breeze if you have done it before or if you have seen someone do it before. Very recommendeed purchase, contact me for any help in installation. the one and only con : I wish the video card was more powerful =( . I have been lurking the forum for quite a while and wanted to join just to let you know that you don't have to put up with the sub-standard screen of the laptop.

 

Yeah- I dont quite get it- The advertisements showed the G71G has a higher resolution screen than the G71GX, but the one with a sharper screen has a video card with less ram!

But I agree, if you want to improve the video on your G71GX, drop in a replacement screen for a G71G!

and if you want to improve the video on your G71G, plug in the 1gb video card from a G71GX!


But Mophez, I dont know if there is a better MXM video card available for the G71 laptops than the 1gb card you already got in your GX, I heard once that ASUS modified the card socket on the Motherboard on an earlier ASUS laptop model, so only ASUS built, MXM video cards will fit.

--I am still waiting for other, more knowledgeable ASUS laptop users to come back here and confirm or deny this ASUS-proprietary "MXM 2.1" Socket exists in the G71's (or G72's/G73's) though.



I suspect ASUS designed these laptops to be modular for faster assembly & more mix & match options that never made it to retail.

The fun part is, as these laptops get older, and start showing up on the used market, we can probably mix & match our own combinations!

 

Did you need any adapters to get the plug to fit? Do you know if all G71GX-RX05 use the same screen/plug?
Was there any trouble during the installation? Any tips/tricks?

Thanks for the help in advance

 

Yes mate, all G71GX-RX05(best buy model) have the same adapter/plug ( they all have same resolution and glossy so why wouldn't they). No trouble whatsoever in installation, it was a breeze, I took my time taking each screw one by one and the whole thing was done in 20 mins max. Take care while taking the plastic bezel out however and also take care while unplugging the LCD panel from the inverter ( the small pcb ). Also unplug laptop from AC source and remove battery ( obvious reasons ). Enjoy your new HD screen

 

I wouldn't mind plugging in one of the new 5870Mobile cards if my lappy supports it , damn that would be nice. For now , the GTX260m can handle MOST games very well at HD resolutions but games like bad company 2 need some tweaking to get best performance/best visual fidelity

 

bought my G71GX-RX05 from amazon, i think they sent me the wrong model which comes with 1920x1200 resolution panel
but everything else is rx05, iam confused

 

Edit: Thanks, problem solved

 

This has probably been covered so forgive me but I was wondering if anyone had a pull-apart handy for this laptop. I had a small mishap with a cup of coffee and just want to make sure everything's dry and happy before I try to turn it back on.

Any help appreciated.

 

Just to add more info on this screen,
seems like LG manufactures this LCD and the product number is LP171WU1-TLA8.
For U.S. users, check out http://www.123gadget.com/incEngine/...sy-1920x1200&product=1030210563&affiliate=605

Should I just sell G71 and get a G73?
or replace the screen?

I can't decide lol

 

Hey, a bit unrelated to current discussions but has anyone had problems with their HDMI?

I plugged in the HDMI cable leading from my TV into my G71 (Best Buy model), and it froze my computer. After that windows was unable to load and I've had a mess of problems that are still unfixed not to mention my computer not working.


Second, the G71 I purchased came packaged with Vista, meaning in the recovery "X" partition, which is hidden, is all vista stuff (I believe). If I have Win 7 installed does that cause any problems when trying to repair the OS when corrupted? The reason being, when I'm running Chkdsks from the RE command prompt, it is running from X:\ .

 

how do i get the camera to work? I don't see anywhere to open the camera up

 

Hi all,

I'm wondering if the g71's BIOS problem has been solved or not?
I just got my g71gx from amazon,Ive been reading about this BIOS issue but I dont know which I am supposed to upgrade for?
1701 or 1704?
btw in my asus live update the latest version is 1501,is that normal?
Thanks in advance!

 

Has anybody tried to use an SSD in their G71 Yet? I am getting into setting up my G71G with one (maybe 2) SSD's, and have been doing some research, and getting both Knowledge and even more Questions.

I figure this is the best place to share what I know, and post my questions for clarification. (that is, with other G71 owners)





Here is what I've learned so far:
And anyone interested in adding to, or clarifying any of this with your own experiences, PLEASE DO!




By now, we all know that SSD's will:
make Windows 7 boot up in 30 seconds or less,
crank up your computer's WEI rating to around 6 or 7, (mine went from 5.7 to 6.7 during a trial installation of a first generation drive I used to have)
and I can tell you during that test, all your apps will become lightning quick when using an SSD as your primary hard drive.

We also know SSD's
have no moving parts, so your laptop's battery will last longer.

SSD's never need to be defragmented with Windows' built-in disk defragmenter, or treated with CHKDSK.

Both of those HDD maintenance programs were designed for the original style, mechanical hard drive technology, which organizes it's data differently.

An SSD will be damaged if you attempt to use these old style HDD maintenance programs on an SSD frequently.

One drawback to SSD technology was discovered in their first generation. How, over time, they will slow down, and sometimes cause the computer to hang, or stutter at random, from a fraction of a second, to up to 3 seconds or so at a time, after continued use.

This is caused by (for lack of a better term) irrelevant data fragments or "Garbage" left behind when a file is deleted or moved, congesting the drive with this built up "Garbage" as the drive is used long term. So SSD Manufacturers developed their own, crude, command-line based SSD Maintenance programs like "Wiper", to manually Wipe this "Garbage" from the drives, more or less on demand, like you would use a defragmenting program. Restoring original performance until the SSD slows down again, but i've been warned using such wiping software can be complicated because of the command line interface, and can automatically delete important data, by mistake.

Windows 7 is the only Operating System out there that claims to have built-in, automatic support for SSD technology (as far as I can tell to date). This feature is called T.R.I.M., which, as I understand, will keep the SSD drive as fast as it was when it was brand new in the box, by removing the fragments and "garbage" (some brands also call this process "garbage collection") as the drive is in use, or while it is idle, either way, this new process is completely undetectable by the user, who now enjoys a computer that responds almost as fast as he or she can click a mouse, or press the "Enter" key.

For an example of speed, I had CCleaner wipe clean 186gb of space on a 256gb ssd 7 times in 5 seconds, photoshop cs4 start in 6-7 seconds, and had the full desktop of 64 bit, Windows 7 Ultimate, ready to use in just 19-20 seconds from pushing the power button on my G71g-Q1 , during that trial of a First-Gen SSD I mentioned earlier.

We also know that the current generation SSD's (second generation as of this writing) all contain upgradeable firmware and use more reliable data traffic controllers inside them. Their latest firmwares advertize these firmware-upgradeable SSD's are fully compatible with the Windows 7 T.R.I.M. features, (which are also said to prolong the life, and increase the speed of the drive)

Microsoft says that Windows 7 will automatically detect the presence of an SSD in the computer, and automatically activate its T.R.I.M. / garbage collection features built into Windows 7 in a special, biult-in Windows 7 driver made to support Solid State Drives, called "AHCI" or "MSAHCI". No Muss, No Fuss, Plug and play! right?

Oops! Wrong.

I understand that Windows 7 does appear to have a bug in it related to auto-detection of SSD's, so to insure the best performance, the user has to activate W7's own SSD driver ("AHCI") manually, in Windows, and in BIOS setup after installing the SSD, most of the time.

How do you do that, you ask? I'm told so far, that:
Step 1: the user must turn on AHCI in their Windows Registry if Windows 7 failed to detect the SSD, then
Step 2: Reboot, and IMMEDIATELY access BIOS setup. Where the laptop's Bios needs to have its own AHCI driver activated for the SSD as well, if it didnt autodetect the SSD before.
Step 3: then you save & exit BIOS setup, reboot again, let Windows 7 boot normally, and you're done!

I'm quoting the following (Windows) MSAHCI manual activation instructions from a discussion about activating Windows 7's AHCI drivers from within W7, on a windows7site:

1. Click start orb and type regedit
2. Browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/SYSTEM/CurrentControlSet/Services/msahci
3. Right click on Start and hit modify
4. Change the value to 0
5. Reboot and enter bios
6. Every bios layout is different but switch to ahci
7. Windows will load and then install drivers
8. Reboot again and enjoy

NOTE: FWIW, I've heard some reports that W7 wont boot, or will BSOD if AHCI is switched on in W7, and switched off in BIOS (or the other wway around) at the same time.

So I'm told dont try this if you cannot activate AHCI in your BIOS setup.


( AN AUTODETECT FAILURE IN BIOS, COULD CONTRIBUTE to W7's OWN SSD AUTODETECT BUG -think about it, how can W7 read the hardware to turn on its own AHCI if the BIOS didnt see it, and do the same first during boot? Just a thought, but doesnt that make sense?)

Anyway, here's some good news: If W7 failed to activate AHCI to allow the T.R.I.M. features to auto-maintain the SSD, I understand that manual process in BIOS setup & Regedit only has to be done ONE TIME (whew!) and then you got your laptop running at crazy-fast speed forever.





Now that is basically my own (limited) understanding of SSD technology as of this writing (I had to put SOMETHING to get this thread started!) but I am NO expert!

I am hoping to attract others on this forum familiar with these second-generation SSD's

. . . and especially ASUS G71 users familiar with finding and activating "AHCI" in the different BIOS versions for the ASUS G71 series Laptops,
(like the G71g-Q1, for example).





My First Qiuestions, For Example:

QUESTION 1: I currently use BIOS 411 in my G71G-Q1, and its been doing well so far with regular hard drives, but how do I activate AHCI on all of my Hard Drive connections ("ports"?) to run 1 (or even 2) SSD's on AHCI? It does not appear possible (on ports 1 thru 3) in Bios 411, or am I mistaken?

The BIOS setup screen shows all connected drives (HDD1/OPTICAL drive/HDD2) are named "SATA", and a fourth connection with nothing connected to it, is named "AHCI", (who knows where THAT plug is at!) with no option to change any of the firrst 3 connections to "AHCI" that I can see.



I know there are many newer BIOS versions out there for the G71, but I've tried to avoid flashing a BIOS on a personal computer due to mistakes & horror stories I've been part of involving an old desktop pc about 8 or 9 years ago, but I'll read up, bite that bullet & try it if it means I will get W7's SSD drivers to work right.

Question 2: If activating AHCI for both hard drive channels in BIOS 411 cannot be done, which BIOS release can do it?
I heard ASUS has had 1 or 2 problematic BIOS releases for the G71's since #411 (dont recall which ones they were), are any of the newer BIOS versions (still available) better suited for AHCI/SSD setup than version 411? (yes?/no?)

 

Set Sata Operation Mode to AHCI in BIOS Advanced settings. That's all.
I'm using BIOS 1701 in my G71Gx-7S050K without any problems with a SSD at port 2(instead of the second HDD).
I can't use BIOS 1704 because of problems with WLAN and "Save Energy" Mode.

 

Does anyone know if we can install Window 7 x64 on G71GX? because I read that a lot of the hardware drivers were for Window Vistax64

 

I think it should be fine, on the asus website uve got all the neccesary drivers for win 7.Im gonna install a win 7 x64 as well in the next few days if my time allows it.Ive just got the laptop and there is no way that Im using it with Vista.

 

I'm currently running a original Microsoft Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium on a G71Gx without any problem.
All necessary drivers can be found in the Internet and at

ASUSTreiber.de Download - Downloads

 

Mine is set that way now, I now have a corsair p256 as my primary drive on my g71g -Q1.

Very Impressive specs for an SSD! (A samsung controller AND a buffer!) Yet my G71G Bios #411 shows the correct make & model number of the drive, but it still has the drive Identified as "SATA", not "AHCI"

Any ideas? I noticed corsair has just released a new firmware for that drive (so now my new SSD has one notch down from the "Latest" firmware in it) -sounds like I got to take the issue to Corsair unless another G71 owner has encountered something with their own BIOS (newer than #411) that can help.


SO . . .

Any G71 owners out there using a Corsair p256 SSD?


--and running it in AHCI mode? -which BIOS do you run?


(Hey! gotta be thorough with this stuff! --right?)

 

The G71GX (or some versions of it) come with Windows 7 x64 already installed by ASUS.

The Vista x64 drivers are for hardware that never had w7 drivers made for them by ASUS, though W7 can work with most 64 bit Vista drivers if 64 bit W7 versions were never made.



I gave detailed instructions to install Windows 7 on a G71 (g, -Q1) laptop elsewhere in the Notebook Review Forum, here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lounges/326936-asus-g71g-owners-31.html#post6274694


I forgot to mention all the instructions were from how I upgraded my G71G, and they are indeed for upgrading to the x64 version of Windows 7.

On the serial number sticker under your G71, you will see something called "MB ver" standing for "Motherboard Version". Mine has motherboard version G71G. I understand that the G71Gx is also a G71G, originally stripped-down for exclusive sale at Best-Buy stores, meaning it's just has different plug-in features/hardware installed on the same motherboard, (single hard drive instead of two, dual core cpu instead of a quad, no LED status display) all traded for a lower res monitor, and an improved plug-in (MXM) video card -(I'm personally jealous of that upgraded video card!).

The W7 x64 upgrade for the G71G, should work just fine for the G71Gx. --i'd be very surprised if it doesnt. In fact, the people I bought mine from recommended I use most of the G71Gx windows 7 x64 drivers from the ASUS website (with 1 or 2 exceptions) for upgrading my slightly older G71G, the driver alternatives for the differences in plugged in hardware, like video drivers, wireless & networking drivers are mentioned in the post