I still have a lot more of these coming. Getting about 2 games per night done right now.
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All Stock No Overclock.
Benchmarks mean little without seeing the settings that they were tested and run at. Please view the entire gallery of my benchmarks for the Asus G73JH HERE after each benchmark chart are screen shots of the in-game settings. A prime example is the Dirt 2 benchmark, you may think 28fps average is kinda low, but considering its maxed out with every option on DX11 Ultra, thats actually really good!
You can also view the benchmarks as a slide show and find more information on the Asus G73JH by reading my REVIEW
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
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All my memory works. I had memory issues initially but that was a bad module.
Did you see my other post with screen-shots of turbo mode?
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after skimming through...i see there is a major trade off going with the 920xm..not sure why that is as of yet...
720's are getting 8700 gpu scores while the 920xm is getting 8300.....and that is no where near right....well....maybe it's just me that thinks that way..lol
i would buy a second battery, just to have...so you can run about 3 to 4 hours. -
Someone has to have done a property Battery test benchmark by now??
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Those 8700 scores are with a higher core clock.
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and yours is broke?
you should beable to do 925 on core and close to 1300 on memory...
dont think it's going to happen at room temp though.....
easy enough to find out.
drop cpu to normal
leave mem at stock
and just up the core 25 mhz at a time. do the 2nd gpu run of vanatge since it's more taxing. it makes it though, up another 25 mhz. once you find the stopping point..drop back down and start in like 2 to 5 mhz...after you find that..then drop 10 mhz off that and start with the memory. -
sheesh....give me time. I'll do some outdoor benching over the weekend.
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did you see me saying "do it now?"
it's just there for you when your ready for that sort of thing.
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That's what this implies
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hummmm, interesting.
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ViciousXUSMC Master Viking NBR Reviewer
Since your flashing your vbios have you tried to increase the voltage and see if it gives more voltage to the core? (aka higher clocks maybe but higher temps)
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your laptop might go up in flames with that sort of overclocking (like Shishio Makoto
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Hey Shishio did quite fine for himself, even had a hot woman. -
It's behind the screen in the hump. There are two large holes where you can feel the air being sucked in. Personally think it's an ingenious idea from Asus as this way it keeps the noise level of the fans low.
I did a smoke test as you asked, it's definitely going under the screen into the back as I have been saying and as sleepy0 had suspected. It worked for both left and right side.
As you would suspect the air intake force is not very high but it's working as my temps been stable.
Don't believe me do the test yourself. You'll have to get the smoke very low and close the lid as there is little space and smoke does rise up. But if you get it close you CLEARLY see the smoke being sucked under.
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Default is already 1.15. Of course I'll still try it.
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How about giving lower voltage at stock clocks or slight OC to drop the temps?
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Lots of things to try. I will have more time over the weekend.
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im really hoping we are able to get the bios to unlock hidden overclocking features on the 720qm
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I dont think memory will be a big issue as you can run spdtool and reflash the memory to a slower speed to find a qpi(fsb) limit. Im not even sure if these new i7 mobile chips work the same as the older c2d where the memory uses the fsb channel??? can anyone confirm? if this is true we can just run setfsb or similar software overclock tool to bump qpi without reflashing memory to slower speed.
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No FSB because the memory controller is built into the processor.
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i see, i was hoping there was like "qpi" options and voltage etc, maybe even a memory divider... can you bump up qpi at all via bios?
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bumpng that qpi didn't go over so well with the m17xr2.....they are up at 140 and still nowhere close in cpu scores....
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No. Can't touch any of the BCLK settings, just power limits and turbo mode multipliers. Since OC'ing the i7 architecture is all about changing multipliers I have no idea how a non-extreme CPU will ever be able to OC. I'm sure someone much smarter than me will figure it out.
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One of the problems is people don't realize if you touch the BCLK settings your turbo mode will shoot up higher causing instability. They need to control the turbo mode multipliers when playing with the base frequency.
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so does this mean that bumping up qpi adversely bumps up the memory speed?
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i see, i dont have any experience with overclocking the mobile i7... but my i7 920 desktop is running at 4.2ghz on air with a locked multi of 20x id think that locking the multi and bumping qpi would result in better overclocks... but seems locking the multi may be impossible
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thought they knew this already.
was wondering if alienware knew..
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it appears the mobile i7 doesnt even use a qpi link to access i/o so i guess there goes that theory. only the i7 9xx desktop chips use qpi link...
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not sure how upping the bclk frequency would make your turbo mode any different except for the total overall frequency being higher (which is the point of overclocking in general)
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guess what im saying is say you take your 720 and overclock it to 1.8ghz... with that overclock you could assume your turbo mode running on 1 core would overclock to 3.15ghz
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Hey Trysoucie, you really have some good insights here, and I thank you for your contributions. However, do you think you could just edit your first post and add your additional comments, instead of triple posting? the only reason I ask, is that these threads become just tooo long when everyone double and triple posts.
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From what I understand is that the turbo mode multipliers are dynamic and raise by a certain percentage. The best way to test this is with one of the I7 Clevo systems or the M17xR2 with Bios OC'ing and evga eleet.
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sorry my friend, im used to forums automerging my ramblings. lol
i see. i figured it just worked like this: if your using 1 single core it overclocks the one core by 75% (which would relate to 21x multi), if it is using 2 cores it overclocks by 50% (18x multi) and using 4 cores it is @ 1.6ghz (multi of 12x)
so using say setfsb or clockgen on the 720qm would only up the bclk (base frequency, the multi overclocks used for intel turbo mode would still stay the same.
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I'm not 100% sure on this since I haven't tested it. From other docs I have read it stated the multi on turbo mode goes up also.
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are you talking about the intel turbo mode which overclocks dependant on cores being used, or asus turbo mode which i have no idea how it actually works...
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Intel, I have no idea how the asus one works either.
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I don't get it? can't you just disable the turbo mode from bios then amp up the frequencies? hence, no danger of it going to crazy speeds coz of turbo mode multipliers kicking in..
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If so curious why don't you get the G73 and risk destroying it yourself? I don't think it's a great idea to ask someone else to destroy their G73 to confirm your suspicion (not even a theory).
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How do you raise the frequencies?
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The Revelator Notebook Prophet
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Here's my gimp 4G vantage score, stock no turbo.
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jeez..i'm not asking anyone to destroy their machine, why would i want a thing of such beauty to be harmed in anyway??!!
i wrote that in response after reading your previous post:
from what i gathered your concern was that the turbo mode multipliers would make it go upto crazy speeds if u OC'd the BCLK, so why not switch off turbo mode in the bios altogether..?
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I have been overclocking for many years and out of the hundred or so processors ive gone through... only 1 actually died from overclocking... and this was done after a voltage mod to the board... My opinion is that the chances of someone actually damaging their laptop is so rare that its not worth mentioning. But this is just an opinion and anything I say should be done at your own risk.
the big question is will the little 720qm perform better with a higher base clock speed with intels "turbo" turned off, or a stock clock speed with turbo turned on??? guess it would have to do with the types of programs your running. my suggestion would be to possibly look for an asus software utility that comes with an asus mobo that supports the i7 desktop cpu. their might be a slight chance it can function on our mobile chips. one might have better luck with say an 1156 series mobo utility as there is a dmi bridge that talks to the pch hub like these mobile i7's... the 9xxx series 1366 chips uses qpi link to talk to a I/O hub.
maybe asus turboV evo utility might work on some features of this hm55 chipset... heres linkage to a little bit older version: http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/Ot...s-P7P55D-E-PRO-TurboV-EVO-Utility-10113.shtml -
it appears this chipset does not support raid whatsoever! so even software raid via intel matrix storage manager will not work.
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Haha! Where have you been!?
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guess i got caught sleeping... i was unaware of this being mentioned... lol, didnt feel like catching up on all the 200+ pages of the 10 threads for this laptop.
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Hey Even.. This lappie is looking mighty fine.. Just might go with it, instead of the GX740..
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Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!
True enough. I took a video of running Cinbench multithreads while monitoring CPU speeds, multipliers and individual thread activity. I'll be encoding it and uploading tonight and you may be surprised what you see, I was a little.
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For sure there will be more, but doubtful any close to the price of the G73 with it's current specs.
Asus G73 Benchmark Thread
Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.
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