Ok
I can't find the HD6950M anywhere !!!!
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I would be more worried about bricking both the GPU and motherboard......
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I have tried to swap in the past graphics cards. Not on asus thou but on a HP system ....and if the motherboard does not accept the card it will not even boot.
Dont think asus has built a selfdestruct system if a nother type of card has been but it. They might as well restrict the CPU and RAM to their named brand only.
If someone has got the G73 GPU to work in a AW then there should be no problem for it to work with other MXM 3b cards. If the motherboard accepts the card is a nother thing. -
Asus does not have a whitelist of acceptable options in the bios, HP does.
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This thread is still alive!?
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I was not worried about a self destruct but rather getting to much voltage on a pin connected to something that could not take it -
But if the 2 connectors are the same, how can you destruct it ??
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
They are not. That is what I was saying. Asus uses the same physical dimensions but changed the pin outs on their stuff from the standard that the rest of the world uses.
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So how can a HD5870M from MSI work on a G73 ?????
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
I did not know that it did work. That would indeed mean that Asus is using the standard pin out and this is the first I have ever heard of it
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http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/492039-help-i-bricked-my-g73-vbios.html
"Ken put a MSI 5870m in my G73 and he got into system BIOS, no problem." -
cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
That is interesting. Although getting into the bios does not mean a card will work. I was able to get into the bios with 2 5870s in my M17x but that was as far as I could go.
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Good to hear. That means that it will not brick the motherboard and GPU.
Might only be a problem with the vbios. The motherboard might not work with the GPU but if you can get in to the bios then it means that there is a possibility of flashing the Vbios and getting the motherboard accept and start it up. -
But if i take a HD6970M, how can i flash the vbios ???
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I made some Benchmark tests before and after updating my system:
My G73 Specs are on my signature, here are my Screenshots:
3DMark 11 Professional -=Performance Test=- Bios 209 Stock vBios (012.017...) Stock ATI drivers 9.12:
Now 3DMark 11 Professional -=Performance Test=- Bios 213 Chastity's 93vBios (012.020...) Stock ATI drivers 9.12 *Not OCd:
Results after updating my Video Drivers to Ati 11.4 RC2:
Finally, here are my Results on Unigine Heaven Benchmark Basic 2.5 all in DX11:
209 Bios + Stock vBios (012.017...) + Stock Video Drivers (9.12) Max Temp = 95C:
213 Bios + 93 vBios (0.12.020...) + Stock Video Drivers (9.12) Max Temp = 90C:
213 Bios + 93 vBios + 11.4 RC2 Video drivers, Max Temp = 90.5C:
In resume:
1. The Bios 213 does gives better temperatures (up to 6C lower).
2. The 93 vBios does reduce idle Temperatures (3C lower) thanks to the lower clock settings.
3. The new Video Drivers (11.4) give a considerable increase on the performance of the card (at a small increse on the temperature 0.5 to 1C). On my particular case it was better for DX11 Games, I had to use Chastity Bundle of drivers (3dGuru+), because the ones from the ATI site did not saw my Graphic card, and after installing the new drivers the device is recognized as "Radeon HD 5800 Series" instead of "Radeon HD 5870".
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I just reached an unprecedented clock-speed on my cpu so i thought i'd try and break the 10k barrier.. came oh so close..Maybe will tweak things a little more later to hit it, for now back to witcher 2!
I had problems OCing my cpu but after applying the Win7 clock fix, i was able to OC much more, previously it would start freezing at pll 157, but now it only freezes at 177!
Its completely stable at pll 175(bus ~ 156)!
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
You need to get your GPU higher, CPU clocks do not effect the GPU score very much
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GPU higher?!! 850/1150 is one of the highest overclocks I have seen on a 5870M without volt modding it. Kurt do you get any flickering or artifacts with those clocks? How is the CPU stress testing with that PLL?
Grats on your benchmark results very nice
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850/1150 stable for benchmarks but not for gaming.. for gaming max stable is about 830 although i usually just run on 800/1100
at pll 175 + 850/1150 i ran prime95+furmark for 5 mins, no problems at all but as soon as i start up a game i get artifacts, hence the 800/1100 clocks for daily use.
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Will push mine later and post what my max results are
haven't testing in a while but 850/1150 is very nice.
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And here it is... 10K on a G73JH!!!!
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Ummm lol that is not a completely stock G73JH lol that is a massively overclocked JH fella.
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lol well by completely stock i meant no extreme series cpu...
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cookinwitdiesel Retired Bencher
The dell 5870m cards were able to go up to 1000 MHz core with good enough cooling...one member was able to get like 22k GPU score with his in CF
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^ yea i know, but i'm too fainthearted to try that..
you can use RBE to over-volt it but haven't tested that.. i've just used it to under-volt it at idle clocks(powerplay max-battery clocks are 100/[email protected]) to reduce power consumption and heat -
The Asus 5870m only knows 0.95 and 1.15V. Hardwired!
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no, you can change the voltages with RBE...
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Ermmm ok so what voltage can you increase to? please post exactly what you did because this is new information to all of us. Thus far we assumed the G73 was hardwired and the voltage could not be changed..
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umm ok i actually had no idea about the voltages being hardwired. I simply decreased the voltage for the battery clocks in my custom vbios through RBE and then flashed it..
If it allowed me to decrease voltages its safe to say it may let me increase it too but like i said before, i havent tried increasing the voltage..
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That's because people tried to change it before and it didn't seem to work so we all assumed it was hardwired.
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Ok i tried increasing the voltage by editing the vbios with RBE and flashing it. I put the clock 0(max performance) voltage to 1.25... Didn't work
I switched max battery mode in powerplay before flashing just to make sure it doesnt freeze/bsod as soon as it starts up in case there was some problem with the voltage.. it flashed fine, then reboot > started up with max batt clocks and voltage > then changed to max perf > no effect. the clocks would not change to anything else, it was stuck on the max batt clock (clock 2 in RBE). It wouldnt even goto the max perf idling clock (the one with 0.95v voltage)
So i rebooted it but this time left it in max perf mode. Now this is the interesting bit... on startup it reverted back to stock clock i.e. 700/[email protected]. when this isnt even anywhere in the vbios..! some failsafe built in by ASUS i guess. Then when i toggled to max batt it switched clocks to the one in my vbios and was stuck at that as before.
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Interesting, maybe we can get the card to run at stock clocks at something like 1.05v though. Would be nice for temps and fan speeds.
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I've only tested the undervolt at the Max battery clocks, not at the Max performance clocks, though it should work...
Edit: ok tried that, here's a screencap showing it running at 800/[email protected]
Not sure if there was a temp decrease.. Furmark caused it go upto 80 and then stay there once fans kick into high just like before, will have to test during gaming if it lowers temps..
Anyway it was all stable if anyone else wants to test it...
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@kurtcocaine: the Asus HD5870M card is hardwired for 0.95v and 1.15v settings. You can put whatever value in the vBIOS you like, it will only use those 2 values, whichever is closer. You can use a setting of 0.05v and it will still run.
Just because GPU-Z reports the lower voltage rating, doesn't make it a true reading.
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Yea I was suspecting the same coz I just tried and ultralow value n it was still running.. weird it doesn't work with higher values though.. anyway that's a couple of hours wasted.. :-\
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You take my words.
I thought, all had began to understand this. The Asus 5870m is hardwired. It's an axiom.
The VR just knows the 2 values (or get it). It's dumb.
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Anyone know what voltage the 6970M requires/runs at?
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Greetings Everyone!!
This is my first benchmark experience.
Just a simple review of stock clocks and temps, a burn-in 10mn test at 1920x1080 and recovery stats after burn-in.
1 - A Fresh Start
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2 - Stock Clocks Idle (internet usage only)
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4 - 3mn After Burn-In
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5 -11mn After Burn-In
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Not too much...
I know. But I'll comeback later with more.
You´re all free to comment. Sugestions are welcomed.
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All my benchies are with stock CPU speeds. No fsb or anything (you can tell by the cpu-score in the vantage bench
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The Vantage Score:
The Vantage Settings:
And finally the 3dmark06 score (with standard Cpu clocks, since I'm a total noob in OC'ing my cpu
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I tried the 850/1300 OC for the 3dmark06, but it crashed
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Holy....
lol abit more and you got 10k on the GPU itself
Nice score. You need to tell us your secret.
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Those Vantage GPU scores are impressive, dude.
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Thanks
.The only thing I did was repaste my GPU with IC7. Guess I'm one lucky guy when it comes down to Laptop-ownership.
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Replacement thermal pads and covering the VDDC(?) modules. Can run without artifacting at 1300mhz memory. Still can't push above 800core in Vantage. Gotta lower core even more for 3dmark06. The 11 runs will wait a few days.
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hmm lol i can go up to 860 with the core but mem is 1100 max for me
might have to take her apart 1 more time and do a repaste.
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Dont bother it wont make a difference heat is only one factor in the ability to overclock Schockie's repaste would have only made a minor difference if that, the reason he can push that far is due to the memory controllers being capable and able to handle that high an overclock and that is a one off for sure the highest I have seen even with dry ice was 1200 so 1300 is total good luck. -
I think I'm on to something here. Try the following: Set your core to 800 and ur mem to 1200(and build up from there). Then try setting your core to 850 and mem to 1100. I'm not sure about this, so ima try that tonight, but I think you can only max one at a time. So its eighter the core or memory you can boost to the maximum. My guess would be that its cause if you put em both on max (870/1300), it consumes to much power, which the 5870m we have won't provide, since we can't change the voltages..
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The thing is even 800/1200 should consume too much voltage and 99% of the time if people try to push upwards of 1150 it just artifacts and crashes the core is ok to play with but I personally have not noticed much difference between 840/1125 and 800/1125 either way 1125 unless I put up with slight artifacting is my maximum and that is with my super low temps and testing with an air con.
Your chip is just a one off it seems either it is able to draw more power or was created by einstein himself I dont think anyone will get near your scores. Repasting wont make a difference after 13 repastes my overclock stands 1100-1135 has been my varied maximum. Someone out there might be lucky enough to have a similiar chip as you
but its not me
wimper.
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Oh sadface.. If you want, you can come over and play on mine if you like
We could have a little tea-party !
Asus G73 Benchmark Thread
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