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    Asus G73 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Mandrake, Feb 8, 2010.

  1. Yiddo

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    You can keep the tea I will just swap over the GPU's when your not looking ;)
     
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    Thank God, I was afraid you'd call my bluff !
    I didnt have tea at all!

    95% sure I wouldn't notice its swapped the first months. :rolleyes:
     
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    Schockie might be on to someting actualy. I did a test by going up 5mhz at a time. Kept it for a min and then a nother 5 mhz etc.....i got the mem to 1160 with no artifacts. If i just clock it from 1000 to 1110 i will get green spots.


    Well the thing why i want to have a nother go at repasting is i ran out of IC7 and one of the vrams might not have a good layer on it. (yes have no thermal pads)
     
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    You should always go in increments never just jolt the clocks up as that will normally cause a lock up. 5-10mhz max each attempt but still it needs to be able to handle a stress test to be stable and it may be fine initially but during an intense gaming session you will notice artifacting or a lock up.

    It is possible to raise your maximum overclock by trial and error and repasting can help but just be warned if your temps are good and you are able to hit that overclock I would not bother attempting it because you could easily cause your temps to rise and overclock to decrease as opposed achieiving better results.
     
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    @Dallers
    I finally decided to try to OC my 5870. Right not I am stable at 825/1125 and I'm still testing the Mem by 5 increments and testing in furmark to ensure no artifacts. Since I will be pulling my 720 out for the 920 I'm also going to repaste the GPU. This is my first time doing it, would you suggest replacing the pads this early? If so what size were they and were can I get them?

    Thanks.

    Edit*

    Nevermind, just ordered a sheet from this thread.
     
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    LOL well I just tried this 5mhz inching strat, and all I got up to was 870/1160 :eek: only 10mhz more then my previous. Though to be honest, isnt a higher core overclock better anyways? We already have enough bandwidth :p
     
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    Still those are pretty neat overclocks mate a lot more than I and most can achieve so dont be too displeased with them ;)

    Core is better for overall processing power but still higher memory clocks are still very important its not necessarily the bandwidth its how fast textures can be processed. At the end of the day being able to overclock both is what produces the real results.
     
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    Read most of this after doing my first ever OC today on the 460. 825/1600/1650. Played some SC2 and everthing is smooth. never got above 76 during play. 3Dmark11 ran every 40MHz jump.
     
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    I <3 how Dallers has become the Overclocking Pet :D
     
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    Nice score you have schockie. Here is my best one
     

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    Those 2nd Gen i7's surely give a nice boost :D. Those are some nice scores!. Maybe I'll go for the 920xm. Just need a little more convincing :).
     
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    Good luck with your 920xm project!
     
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    By "Sandy Bridge version", I'm pretty sure Dallers implied the 2630QM, since its common knowledge the 2920XM is THE top mobile CPU currently and there's no way an OC'ed 1st Gen i7 can even be compared.

    Then again its only because we hang around the Asus forums too long.
     
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    makes more sense how you said it. :)

    side note: ah, now i see why he jumped off all crazy with the alienware stuff. i wouldn't have kept pushing it if he would have put it the way you did.
    my apologies dallers

    and they got on me too!..LOL
     
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    A couple of pages of posts have been deleted and this thread needs to cool down. I will reopen it sometime later.

    Edit: I am quietly reopening this thread. Please stay on topic and do not insult each other. See the forum rules.
     
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    A last benchmark with the standard 720QM, before I install my 920XM ^^.
    [​IMG]

    Clocks set to 830 x 1350.

    Dallers, why did you clock your card to 400 x 1115 for the 3dmark11 bench?
    Noobing around were we ? :D
    Would you mind making one with stock clocks with the 920xm for me to compare with?
     
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    Do you have your 3dMark06 score, Schockie? I scored 12,983 with stock video card clocks and 720QM (benchmark pic is saved on my home pc). Tonight I install the new cpu and expect an increase to ~15,000 without overclocking the video card. Of course, I'll overclock the video card also since I'm repasting it with ICD.
     
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    I resent being called a noob, I am cautiously returning to comment to this thread as we all know what happened last time I was here. Dallers spoke his mind towards the haters and got a nasty red mark next to his name ;)

    I was running at 825/1115 but for some reason it just logged my clocks as idle as you know at idle on the old Vbios is sat at 400/1000 instead of correctly on the OD2 as it does now.

    I dont have my laptop with me at the moment im afraid fella but at stock you will see around 3700-3800 3DMark06 points which shows how fantastic it is when you tweak all 4 cores because she jumps upto 5400+. On 3DMark11 it wont show a massive difference to the 840QM I think around 14fps on the test again its when you unlock it that it kicks its shoes off and competes with the sandy bridge.

    Remember at stock it runs from 2ghz-3.2ghz depending on how many cores are active compare that to the 840QM 1.86ghz-3.2ghz and the difference is minor. The XM is made to be unlocked and overclocked baby! 3.2ghz-3.8ghz over all 4 cores. :cool:
     
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    Don't have 3dmark06 installed right now, but I'll install it right away and run another specially for you ;)

    2 other benchies I made though, with a small overclock, are:

    800x1200 -> 13060
    800x1300 -> 13239

    Gotta say though, those are numbers from back in the 'old days (november 2010).
    Will report back in an hour or 2.

    Update:
    Stock clocks + 720qm only gave me 12158 in 3dmark06 lol. 12983 seems a bit high :p, show me that pic once you get a hold off it.

    Update2:
    800x1300 clocks gave me 12357 score. How Bizar! Thats almost 1k off the score i got a year ago lol. Anyone any idea why that is ? Probably the outdated 3dmark software.
     
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    Does anyone know why my 3dmark06 scores from now are 1000 points lower than they were a year ago? (see my previous post for more info).

    Edit:
    This hurts, OC'd my 920xm to 26/24/20/20 and 85/70 and my 5870m to 800x1300, and got a 3dmark11 score of 2635,
    while a standard 720qm with 5870m (830x1350) gave me 2623.. What am I doing wrong ?

    Edit2:
    Same OC for 3dmark06 gives me 15571...I'm doing something wrong :(
     
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    I would say you are lacking power or that you are facing heat issues. What are your maximum temps of the CPU when running the benchmark? What do you have your DTS set to in Throttlestop?

    Also I fear that your huge MEM overclock on your GPU could be your problem, I reckon that will be drawing about 75 watts or more to power clocks that high you might be hitting the 150+ wattage limit on your brick. :(
     
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    Hmm... I'd sadface that as well.. I'll run a bench with standard gpu clocks. Temperature wasent an issue, I ran prime95 for 15 minutes, gave me a steady 90°C with those clocks I used. My DTS settings are set to 10 90 and profiles 1 1.
     
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    If its set to 10 DTS and hitting 90oC you want it set to something like 5 because you dont want it to change profiles while your running a benchmark 95oC is fine.

    Could be a power problem. Check with HWINFO sensors what wattage is being drawn during a stress test to see if you have the TRL/TPL set high enough.
     
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    Honestly I don't think its any of those. Power drainage is 85Watts, and during the stresstest I monitored my multipliers & load, and they were always the same (ive set them to 26/24/20/20), the multipliers dropped to 19.20 sometimes, and the load to 99.8, but beside that, everything was going as planned.. Only the benchmarks seem to fail me.

    Ran another 3dmark11, scored 2311....sadface². Guess its somehow driver-related.
     
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    Even with my Targus and average overclocks of 800/1100 when my 920XM is using 80 watts the overall draw can reach 170/180 watts remember the GPU/XM alone can draw upto 150watts and then the remainder of the hardware in the laptop.

    To run all that with a 150 watt adaptor points to why your HUGE 1300 memory clock is probably struggling to produce 100% GPU and CPU output. I would say your probably trying to draw around 190 watts. Is your brick hot? :D
     
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    Holy cow, can the 5870m really do 1300MHz memory?

    I won't be overclocking any further till my Targus adapter comes in the mail. However, my current OC is producing exceptional results in benchmarks and Starcraft 2. Who is a G73JH owner with more than 17k 3dmark06?
     
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    No it cannot, there are no 5870M's out there without additional cooling that can reach that high, especially not Asus ones.

    Schockie is the exception to the rule. ;)
     
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    back then...that's how it read, but the cpu was a 920xm oem chip.
    a real 950 would not be compatible.

    well...if your going to bench fro record gaining... then i would advise you going colder at the same clocks and that might be enough to get what you need. it's not always who over clocks the highest..but who is running more efficient at the clocks one is using. temps play a heavy roll in what your end results will be...that an power. not enough power will not max the cpu or gpu.

    the records were done with old drivers and about year ago. you should be able to knock that off. and i had one of the weaker gpus unfortunately...back then. also used xp as well.
     
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    Additional cooling was used to reach those scores though. Mandrake said that himself.

    Yes you can achieve the highest overclock but in real time performance that means nothing should you intend you use that performance in game. It is more beneficial to see what benchmark scores you can achieve with stock cooling or at least what can be utilised without dry ice or the like.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sticking with stock cooling. I would classify myself as a Practical Overclocker, not an Extreme Overclocker :) If I overclock, it's because I'm going to use it in games--not a synthetic benchmark. However, for purposes of benchmarking what kind of performance to expect in games, then I will use the artificial benchmarking tool.
     
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    it's numbers chasing. does not matter what you use. at the end of the day, it's the highest score wins. after that..you can lower a bit to have your gaming over clocks in place.

    when it becomes quality benching.... the minute you touch any settings other than what the game or bench calls for..you're no longer on quality benching.

    in the end..if you need to over clock to game...best to get a better gpu.


    side note:
    i did mine with out dry ice or taking it apart.
     
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    No it can't. It can do 1350 ;)
    [​IMG]

    The brick didnt get hot at all :(.
     
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    man, i wish mine would have done high numbers like that! :mad: :mad:
    very nice!
    but can it bench vantage at that same high memory over clock?
     
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    Rebel.

    Only over long periods will it heat up. Or you could build a camp fire underneith it that should work ;)

    What you wanna do is get HWINFO sensors open and whip the AC cable out and shift everything to maximum and then stress test using Furmark with your highest overclocks and see what W/ph is being used. Add your 80 watts of CPU draw onto that and it should show you why it is throttling your 150 watt adaptor. Dont run Furmark and Prime at the same time or you will get a ZAP and have to wait 30 seconds and remove the power bits job annoying thing.

    A 180watt targus may help you it made my overclocks more stable just not any higher.
     
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    you will need the 180W because in the end...you'll get up to like 200+. when fully over clocked and cool.(could be something like benching out in your garage at night or over portable ac)
     
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    Will it bench ?

    [​IMG]

    It does bench !

    I found it somewhere in my pictures, 850x1350 clocks.
    enjoy ;)
     
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    here goes two of my pitiful runs... :)

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
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    You gotta love that 920xm vantage score.. at least I do lol.
    When my 920xm grows up, I want it to be just like yours!

    My problem still aint fixed though. I'm scoring lower with my 920xm and an 800x1300 oc on my video card, than I got 1 year ago with my standard 720qm and the same oc on my video card.. Thats against my thinking pattern that's saying scores should be higher cause of the better driver-releases ?...Damn you brain!..

    Also, whats the powerdrainage of an oc'd (800x1200 for example) 5870m ?
    And besides the cpu/gpu, what are the other powerdrainers (and how much would those drain) ?
     
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    you already have your gpu in line...you need to take that out of the picture..

    only work on cpu over clocking. you must be throttling bad because your giving it far to many volts/watts & or amps.

    let me see your best vantage run cpu. lets see if we can't at least get you up to 18k.
    even with a 150 watt psu...your cpu should be able to far more..
     
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    I know right ?! So, how far are you from belgium atm ? :D.
    Havent run any vantage benchies with the 920xm, since the 3dmark06/11 scores are lower than with my 720qm..
    If I could fix that, I'll do all the benching you want !
     
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    oh...i would say...pretty damn close! if you run teamviewer... :)

    it's how i pretty much help everyone else looking to get their clocks or numbers up.
     
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    Schokie, you should try overclocking the CPU with the GPU at stock speeds. Then you know you're not throttling because of power.
     
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    it's best to start using wprim155 and running 1024 test.(throttle stop up and running as well. no hwinfo plus fans if this works here)..if you can pass a min. of 60 seconds with out down clocking and stay at the exact multiplier you set...chances are pretty good you can bench vantage at that clock, but with maybe a slight bump in voltage(watts & amps) since vantage takes a bit more than wprime does.
    once you find a complete stable clock to test...give vantage cpu test only a run.
     
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    Follow me on this one, since it's all new to me:
    I open throttlestop - click on 'turn on' (giggedy) - click on TRL - enter 26/24/20/20 on the first 4 clocks - press apply - open TPL - enter 80/65 - Apply - save.

    That should be it for the throttlestop-part right ?

    Running wprime155 (theres a 206 release btw) doesn't do that much frankly. Temp's go only as high as 67°C (compared to 91°C for the prime95 test with same numbers).
    This is how my throttlestop looks runnin the wprime:
    [​IMG]

    Uploaded with ImageShack.us
     
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    that's your first issue..

    see where you have it set to 20 for four cores?
    that's what vantage and 3dmark06 use. 4 cores.... so set everything 24/24/24/24 and see if you can hold that through wprime155 (no 200 or 203 versions)

    your issue may be a very simple one to fix... :)
     
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    Ill get on it asap.
    On a sideproject, here's my vantage score with 26/24/20/20. Is 80/65 enough ? I guess 80 is a bit of an overkill for 20 on 4 cores, but how about that 65? How's that calculated?

    [​IMG]
     
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