Asus G73 Series Disassembly Guide

forget the cpu. it doesnt matter i never checked nor should anyone care. The gpu will range between 95c and 105c at full load. That does not mean that the person with icd should see 95c. that means that the temperature readings are not 100% correct and the ambient temp does make a difference. 100C with 5% margin is exactly where it should be at. I have tested this with and without as5/icd. the temp results are the same within a few degrees with dry and wet paste.

 

for me to get 80C under load my ambient temps have to be really warm.

 

so can you explain me why when i bought my unit i had temperatures around 85ºc /90ºc and with the time passing the temperatures building up (after a month +/-) i was getting 100ºc /102ºc on gaming?
(the environment temperature was always the same)

 

Cool, thanks. My 5870 runs @ 99C (according to GPU-Z/Speedfan/ATI OC tool) under 20 minutes of full load. I will definitely avoid a repaste at this time. Thanks for the tips; I'd add rep for you but I'm at my limit for the day.

Thank you again, though!

 

run furmark for 10 mins or so with their burnin tests. you will reach past 95c no problem on the gpu. i used everest to test these things. results were always within 5% margin of error countless times in a 76 degree ambient temp with no lap cooler. 95+ is exactly what you should be seeing.

 

You probably had my issue, where one of the spring-loaded screws wasn't bolted down 100% and you had paste spread and air

 

Would you like my Furmark of 77C with a 2hr burn-in with PostFX and Extreme enabled?

EDIT: can't find that one, but here's a 2hr run with 80C max with a minor overclock

http://pcaudio.ath.cx/crap/furmark3.jpg

 

i dont know how or why you are getting 77c in furmark. i ve done this with and without icd. always the same results. i get alot of orders who pay 75$ for icd. It never shocks me to see how pointless this upgrade is. i am sorry

 

If you buy a small tube yourself it's like $10 with shipping so even if it is snake oil at least it is somewhat cheap snake oil.

btw, thank you for your disassembly video, I've watched it many times and you guys take it apart the right way. Asus should really use this as a training guide for their techs, last time I got my unit back from rma it was a mess inside, like things were forced out when they shouldn't have been.

 

doesnt surprise me at all. it is usually a horror story when they have to gut the mainboard. something is always broken

 

i already done the repaste, and now im getting the 85ºc again, and i didn't use a expensive thermal paste (used arctic cooling mx-2, very good and cheap)..
my point it's the standard thermal paste of asus it's very crapy and degrades very rapidly (1 month it's to short)..
and 1 thing i remember when i was unscrewing the bolts of the Gpu cooler, they were tighten very well... (i already read something about loosen screws, so i tested it) that isn't an excuse...
one thing your right, the cpu don't need any repaste job, because the gains are going to be marginal

 

there are 3 or 4 temp nodes there. use everest to check all 4 temps. the highest temp is your gpu temp. run furmark for 10 mins or so and you should find it creeps up to 100C

 

I am one of those users who suffered from the poor quality control. I'm not sure if it was the screws or the stock paste but my temperatures were steadily rising after running the notebook above a month. I used to get idle temps of 54~56c to 66~68c after a month. I never saw temps above 95c in Furmark when it was new but before my re-paste to ICD7 a few days ago I was hitting 110c. Below is a screen shot of my Furmark run after my re-paste to ICD7:

This run was done right after my re-paste and I was suppose to run the test for 2 hours but I was tired and fell asleep

 

no it won't reach at 100ºc.. and you can check it on this pic



15 minutes running on furmark

 

how high did it go? Can you post some lines of the log?

duh... sorry..

mine goes nicely up to 103... can't figure it out... a couple of days ago it would idle at 45 now at 60... and Furmark to 103)C it's starting to look like a repaste

 

58 celcius is my idle temp with my clocks at 705/1100.

 

86ºc max
15 minutes
gpu-z temp log--> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3515104/GPU-Z%20Sensor%20Log%20depois.txt

catalyst 10.7
bios 211
stock Vbios (never had a GSOD)

 

And I max out at around 94 degrees celcius in furmark with factory thermal paste.

 

I think you need to run stablilty mode and extreme burning mode to get the higher temps geared2play was talking about.

 

theres is your test
pic


stability test 15 minutes
extreme mode on
stock Vbios
catalyst 10.7...................... EDIT: sorry, lol, now im running 10.8, i forgot that..
bios 211
room temperature 26ºc
gpu-z log--> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3515104/GPU-Z%20Sensor%20Log%20furmarktest.txt

 

Good temps you should be very happy

 

for those not interested in going through his txt file, his max was 80C.

 

what is the version of your stock Vbios?
mine its 012.017.000.004.035992

 

what kind a question is that?
At the moment, everyone has the same(inc betavBIOS).

 

from gary key
Full Image here - http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/3549/g73jhfullfurmarka.jpg



you can see there, it has a different version.. beta Vbios?
seems older than mine..

 

first time, when i see something like this.

 

original post from him--> http://forum.notebookreview.com/6656282-post397.html

 

The beta vBIOS is 012.020.000.032.037764

 

oh.. ok, now i see.. tks

 

Im gonna buy the new G73, but a customized one. On online stores that make customized G73 they all give an option > put some arctic silver 5 or IC diamond on CPU & GPU. The thing is that they make pay this service something like 70-75$ while the arctic silver 5 cost 5$ (and actually i stil lgot some). To people who have done it, was it hard to remove the heatsink and CPU & GPU to apply arctic silver 5 or is it worth the 75$ for this service?

 

I have not done it. However, I've seen the disassembly video, and I also know that you cannot do the CPU yourself without removing a seal and thus loosing the warranty.

It takes reportedly around 3 hours if you do it carefully.

After much toil, the only issue my pc still has is temperatures... I'm now delaying the inevitable: I'm going to have to do a repaste one of these days.
If I had to do it again, I'd buy it from a shop and gladly pay the 75 bucks. More so if they do both CPU and GPU and I keep the warranty.

I now love this PC. If it weren't for the temps, it'd be perfect. I say pay and save yourself the risk and aggravation of opening a brand new PC.

 

I agree with jeprira. I think $75 is fair for the amount of work involved. Considering the fact that they are allowed to repaste the CPU without voiding the warranty, it's even more attractive.

 

anyone knows where is the sensor to turn off the LCD backlight when you close the notebook lid?

 

Hello Guyz,

I just got my Asus G73jw-A1 and I bought separately Intel Centrino WiFi N 6300 with 3rd antenna, but I don't know how to make use of the 3rd antenna since the original WiFi came with two antennas!!
Could you help me with that please..

Thank you in advance!

 

I've read a post where someone managed to do it, but in general people buy the 6200 with 2 antennas so they don't have to scratch their head like you are doing.

Can you return and exchange for N6200? That's what most people are using.

If not... good luck. Perhaps you'll find someone to advise you on how to install a third antenna in the G73

 

Use the two outer connectors if you only have 2 antennae. Installing a third requires opening up the screen section.

 

Hi,

Please, do you know if the GPU is on a MXM module ?
If yes, what kind of MXM is it ?

Thanks alot.
@+

 

it's a custom MXM 3.0b reversed pinout

 

Thanks.

Hem "custom" do you say ?
That should be difficult, in some time, to find a new vga card when it doesn't work any more , I think so.

@+

 

Hi,
What were temperatures, before you opened up your netbook and did what you did to it? I really want to get one of them, but the lack of openings in the bottom cover doesn't convince me to buy it at all.
Thanks in advance.

 

Hello, all!

first time posting... but i have been scouring these pages for about a year now! for the most part, everyone on these forums are of great help. with everyone's input, research on these forums, and a loving wife that let me buy a new toy, i purchased the best buy version (BST7) about 2 weeks ago!

after bloat uninstall, a vbios flash, and unparking cores, i feel good to go - all with help from this community

however, to get the dual channel going, i think i gotta install another stick of RAM into my computer's empty slot.

I am pretty proficient at building and upgrading components on desktops, but i have never ever torn apart a laptop, other than stuff that can be easily accessed from the removable service panel.

now i have 3 questions:
1.) can someone suggest a 2GB stick of RAM that will play nicely with my g73? as I said, it is the best buy version, and i read somewhere around here that certain brands will not play nicely. maybe someone can tell me what "stock" brand & specs are used? or a stick that someone has successfully added to their rig?

2.) i believe (please correct me if i am wrong) that the free slot is the one that is more difficult to reach - the one underneath the keyboard. Is this upgrade something that I can do myself without breaking any "warranty seals"?

3.) if i have to remove the keyboard, what is the best way to "repair it" before putting it all back together? what i mean is that i am half-expecting it to look like it did in the video - the back of it will probably be bent to hell when removing it. i would hate to put it all back together and find that it is not working correctly or that it is not flush and scratches the screen when closed...or both!

thanks for any help you can send my way!
-tadpole

 

If you have Kingston this is the 2gb 1333 DDR3 ram that will fit your notebook. KVR1333D3S9/2G. As luck would have I just received a 2gb stick thinking I was going to upgrade as well but I forgot that I already have 8gb of memory, 4x2gb so I have no use for this. Instead of me going through the hassle of returning it I would just rather send it to someone who needs it. Let me know if you want it.


As far as doing the teardown, just go slow the first time through. It would make it easier if you have another computer running the video and a printout of the guide in front of you so you can follow them step by step. It's pretty easy once you do it.

 

Dibs!
Thanks gstboy! im not sure if there is a way to send PMs here (still looking around for that)...but i added you to my buddy list. could you shoot me an email? i have enabled/allowed email from members here...

im going to take your advice and go very slow. hopefully, if i go slow, the back of the kb wont be as mangled as it was in the video.

Thanks again!
-tadpole

now...to continue to find a way to send a PM LOL

 

Any of the ram on this page will work:

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware,Memory,Laptop Memory,2GB,9

 

Minimum number of posts required before you can PM.

 

That stinks!

@gstboy: if the offer still stands, please shoot me an email ... tadpole_739 (at) YAH00

Thanks for the help, everyone!

 

Hey guys,

i'd be really interested in chastity and geared2play to continue their fight, by which i mean bringing the discussion to a constructive end

my g73jh (i.e. gpu) reaches temperatures of >100°C, i havent experienced many shutdowns so far though. just one in half a year now. still i am wondering if i should repaste, which im not very eager to do, but if it really should be important, id seriously consider it. i want my lappy to last longer than 2 years (thats cause i really love it ).

so any input from experienced members would be very much appreciated

 

i am pretty sure i said it before, but i dont remember. your chances of repasting having any positive effect are less then a few % (reason for this is very simple and well known by experts). I ve done this over a thousand times in 2010 alone, not to mention all the prior years (dismantle these systems, repair them, resell them or upgrade them. the fact remains that repasting your cpu / gpu is a misguded effort to reduce temperatures. anyone that argues this is either misguided, misinformed or is working for the manufacturer of these pastes. Thermal paste is a must when upgrading your cpu as you can not reuse dry compound other then that. the only chances you have of this working is if your gpu heatsink was not seated or assembled properly during assembly (known to happen rarely). odds are your temps will remain the same. It is mind boggling to me that this forum is filled with people proclaiming "bla bla it lowered my temps a million degrees, bla bla". so far i dont see any users coming here and stating the truth. this leads me to deduce that this forum is filled with goons from companies trying to sell products. it does not come as a shock to me as these shady practices have been going on for years and this forum allows it to continie in plain sight and hidden (no way to control posers but i hope nbr implements measures to curb this one day). For the last time, these systems are known to NOT adhere to normal operating temps. they can range from low 80's to 100's. The most comon reason for this variation is a faulty reading which may be caused by a faulty sensor. The least likely reason is incorrect assembly. The only g73 that has adhered to normal temps is the g73jw. g73jw has been problem free for the most part and 99% of them will stay within mid 70's never to deviate from the norm. vbios and bios flashing also has not yilded meaningful results with regards to temps. I frankly hate these "lets repaste everyones gpu" threads. Makes me grind my teeth. Its apauling how much dishonesty and mis information goes around. Our own website states in the description of the thermal mod option
" We have found that 9 out of 10 times changing from dry to wet thermal compound does little to nothing for your core temperatures. "
I realize that i may be stepping on toes of the manufacturer for these pastes but i am sick of seing these threads and sick of people believing the hype.

additionaly my hypothesis (if you can call it that) was sealed when i tested two identical g73's. they were both tested before and after repaste. both times the spread was close to 20C. the actual heatsing temps near the die and away from the die were almost identical within 1 degree. now you tell me, if one is 100c+ and the other is 80c+ shouldnt the heatsinks have different temperatures? this is highschool experiments stuff. why are we still talking about this? NO REPASTE, IT DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING MOST (vast majority) OF THE TIMe. Yes i know i sound like an angry gnome, and that i repeat my self. I am sick of these repaste threads!!!!!

With 100% certaintly you have 1 in 10 chances of this lowering temps by 1 degree or so (and that is subject to human error) and even lower by 5C or more. have i ever seen thermal mods reduce temps by more then 5c? yes many times, but that is dwarfed by how many times it did NOTHING. Just to make my self clear. This goes for new systems or systems which have a mostly clean radiator. clearly if you apply thermal paste AND clean the lint out of your radiator it may have a modest impact however it has more to do with your radiator then your thermal paste

 

wow, that was a quick answer

never mind for sounding like an angry gnome, i had doubts all along about these repaste threads and now i do even more...
so u say my 100+ temps are no problem at all? i mean, ati states, that the radeon 5870 (which happens to be my gpu) can operate safely up to 114°C but everyone here is whining about their temps when they go higher than 95....

what about those guys claming their temps go up to 80°C only? u seriously think they are all lying? lower temps would mean longer life id say, so it is reasonable to try and get lower temps. your argument about cleaning the vents while the lappy is already open for a repaste is a valid on id say, i have experience with that so i know this can be a MAJOR issue with temp problems...

hmmm a little less, but still confused

 

I've got a list of people who hit 85-95 regularly on furmark in my signature. I havn't updated it, but several more people have come forward and said the same.