Asus G73JW at GenTech for 1645$

The 8600m GT in my Acer 5920g died and it was not soldered into the mobo. I went to another nvidia 8 series card that was not a part of the deffective chips and have been fine for 2 years.

 

The problem was in a internal solder material, not in the mobo-gpu solder

 

Funny, Sager didn't have these problems with their Clevo based laptops...Hmmm, I wonder if their renowned cooling solutions could have helped.

I haven't seen anything that could match Clevo cooling solutions for decades...until the ASUS ASUS G73JH/W.

 

im well aware of the defective side of it, but that was not the only reason. i worked on enough laptops to know this. we ran a defective batch of gpus which worked fine until under stress of a single fan which then in turn caused them to burn up. when put under colder conditions the gpus worked fine.

so like i said before. part is due to fan setup. which means..a defective gpu burns out far quicker. sorry, but we already put it to the test.

and again. this is not the nvidia bashing thread. you need to take that up in another part of the forums.

 

Yes and there seem to be quite a few of those popping up all over the forums since they announced the 460m so take your pic ..

I am excited to give the 460m a whirl but i seem to be in the minority lol...

 

im in the "try any gpu for benching points at the bot" group...lol

 

Yeah well your reasons are a tad different then mine lol ..

I just want something new and from a totally different camp so this seems like it will fit the bill just fine...

Speedy just ordered a X7200 with 480SLI though so he is in a for a real treat ..

 

that he is.

 

didnt see Widi...

 

Yeah, because there is no Widi in this release..

 

WIDI is going to be +200$ in October (?) by Asus. The downside is having a little box by your TV and a little box by your laptop. I guess that's fine if you're using a desktop 17.3" replacement, but for smaller laptops that you have on the go, the wires and boxes could become rather annoying, considering 'on-the-go', you already have a mousepad, mouse, headset, flash drives, external drives, etc. to disconnect and bring with you.

 

More game videos:

Bad Company 2:
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Batman: Arkham Asylum:
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Which Gaming Laptop has Widi
I sure would like that

Also would like the Sleep charge function Toshiba has

I like Asus G72JW or NP 8850 or NP7280(x7200)

 

Nvidia just released a major Driver update, 260.52 specifically targeted at the GeForce 400 series:

Tech ARP - NVIDIA Release 260 GeForce Drivers

Would be great if one of the dealers could install it and run some benchmarks.

 

Totally agree..i got 80C at most for GPU in BC2 and 70C for CPU.. nver been cold and not to mention , air from vents was no superheated like in my DV5t.

Ken , what settings was BC2 in? I use 1920X1080 , DX11+ MSAA X4 +AAX4.. what's the max i can use without lagg and 25fps+?

 

I just tested the 260.63 beta and here is the result:



Vantage Score

Stock drivers 259:







260.63 Beta:

It was at 1920x1080 2XAA, what fps are you getting?

 

I dont get it, the new nvidia beta drivers more than doubled the cpu score for 3dmark vantage???

The gpu score is still a little lower: 6937 (vs ~7400 for 5870m), but the total score is quite higher for the G73jw (compared to G73jh-A1) now.

 

I for one, am happy that Ken shared this data with us, b/c to be honest, these Nvidia hate-paranoia threads were getting to me LOL

 

I dont' get it either about the CPU score, I can test it again.


Update:
Test 2 comes up even better

 

VERY NICE Ken!

My understanding, is this new beta driver is the first to actually address these new nVidia cards...... and WOW, what an improvement with a BETA driver no less! Looks like we may be in for some VERY pleasant surprises!

 

is that with physx on or off?
also...is that with turbo on or off as well?

 

cpu score is so high coz physx is on...

 

Nice boost. btw, Ken, have you tried to OC the 460m?

 

Hopefully the official release will be even better.

Physx at auto mode and with Turbo off.

Not yet but I can try OC it.

 

Great! Looking forward to seeing the results.

 

seeing as how the cooling system has the temps drastically lower than the JH do you think IC diamond is worth the $75 it or should I just use that money to upgrade to a SSD? My main concern is that opening up the G73 is a pain just to apply some thermal compound at a later time myself, while I could easily upgrade the SSD.

 

This is PERFECT Ken

+ rep

 

Very nice. Thanks Ken!

 

Thanks.


And this test is for Ryzeki :

DX11 mode with beta driver 260.63:
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I smell a rat... these drivers seem to have done something to the CPU and not GPU.. so something's wrong.. u just can't double CPU score with new drivers if CPU's speed stays the same.

 

I want to believe these results because i am going to place an order soon... but... Its like the old adage, If it's too good to be true...It probably isn't

 

with physx ON , the CPU results are distort because GPU is used in the planes-crash test.

q9650 4ghz + 2x285 :

with PHYSX:: GPU:20860//CPU:43632 //TOTAL: P23990

without physx:: GPU:21251//CPU:14289 //TOTAL: P18944


Scores are distorted, the test should be done without physx for comparison.


you can not compare two drivers doing test with Physx for one version and without physx for the other....

 

that's still petty damn good.

it's only 3 frames off in test one and 1/2 to 1 frame off in test 2

 

Ken please switch physx off in vantage runs, makes it more standardized and easier to compare...

 

Yeah I can do that, but isn't the stock driver also with physx on?

 

may be he want to compare with 5870 in 73JH but from my knowledges, physx on/off isn't affect gpu score.

 

It can affect GPU Score if CPU is released from certain loads

I think that physx was not activated with stock drivers, 11661 CPU SCORE is too low for a 740+physx

 

yeah you are right, the new driver must have turned on physx.

I manually turned off physx in Vanatage and ran the test again and here is the result:

 

Yeah and the GPU score remained the same which is all everyone should have been concerned about to begin with ..

Overall and CPU score mean squat in these instances and we were only wondering about the GPU which again was not influenced by Physx...

Thanks Ken and its good to see the drivers did infact boost the GPU score .. Cant wait to receive mine tomorrow from you....

 

Pretty nice OC there Ken, massive dmg! It actually came within 100 points of my mild OC! Not bad. Now I will have to OC my best to demolish it haha. Gotta break the 10k GPU barrier

If it can overclock so good, I wonder why Nvidia choose to clock it so low.

 

it would bring them shame.... with that kind of overclocking it's almost equal to their gtx480 performance, they ask 950$ for the 480 and 350$~ for the 460 (not sure about the price) also the 460 run much cooler and use less power.

 

Glad your enjoying that ATI card since you are certainly proud if it ... Had i not owned a G73JH/Clevo8760/M17xR2/M15x already that had a 5870m in it i would have stuck with ATI but i wanted something different even if its a tad slower ..

 

Considering the clocks it runs on, it is obvious it runs cooler and draws less power. The thing is, at its current stock clocks, the GPU is nothing impressive.

The GTX480m is a fail anyways. A revamp should be on the way. Not many will actually buy one. I think they downclock it to make the 470m look worthwhile?

 

I actually went with the exact same thinking. Since My previous 3 or 4 machines were nVidia, and the previous ATi, I wanted to try ATi again. It's one of the reasons I went with HD5870m instead of wating for G73JW.

I don't regret it one bit Both machines are awesome anyways.

The only bad part of my machine is that I doubt I can get memory clocks high enough to be stable. It would be awesome I could push to 1100, but it seems I won't be able to.

 

Nah you made a good choice and it seems your very content..

I wont say the 460m is unimpressive just yet though since it just hit the market and certainly deserves a chance to prove it self ... Its never going to live up to peoples expectations though no matter what magic Nvidia pulls out of its hat...

It will be a solid performer overall and as far as im concerned none of these cards are all that amazing compared to there desktop brethren ..

 

these cards are all with in 3 fps of each other...that's really not a whole lot to get excited about. and since no one really got the 480m opened up to do anything...can really say what that cards max is just yet. and that will hold true for the 460m if it cant b unlocked either....

 

Yes and this why when i see the words "Kills" or "Crushes" i lol very hard ....

Killing and crushing would be like im getting 30fps and your 60-120fps ... Thats when its good to use terms like that ...

I know people get new hardware and defend it with there soul though so yeah its all good ...

 

i thought the 480 was killing it, but since no one could unlock the card...i cant even say that any more, but at 0.85V vs 1.15V....is what i was basing my call from.

 

Actually i believe that a couple days after Speedy sold his machine he received and Email from Nibitor stating he had unlocked the bios ....

So the X7200 should be interesting to watch ....

I did not want another 12-14 pound laptop to game on so the X7200 is not for moi ... I move my machines around alot and like to use it on my lap from time to time as well as unplugged and the X7200 is none of that lol...

Its like the M17x and a boat anchor disguised as a laptop ..

And since i talk to Speedy on the phone 5 times a day on average ill know all about how amazing that machine is first hand ...