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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. krispydancing

    krispydancing Newbie

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    i have the same issue. turning on twin turbo mode gives me BSOD everytime. i have the best buy model too and the 10.4 drivers
     
  2. Landario

    Landario Newbie

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    Hi,

    the only Reason i upgraded from the stock driver to 10.4 was the huge improvement with loading times in games.

    So now i need to decide if i go back to the stock drivers and therefore have no more stability problems(Hopefully ? ) but have much higher load times while playing games or use the 10.X with much faster load times but stability issues...

    What exactly does the Twin Turbo Mode do ?

    Greetings
    Landario
     
  3. mauricio_as

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    I was using the catalyst 10.4 but does not work. still shutdowns after 15 minutes playing Crysis Warhead...
     
  4. Kalim

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    At this point it seems to me that y'all have to decide whether stability is important or not. If not, keep trying to get 10.4 working. Otherwise, put back 9.12 and move on.
     
  5. Winkyeye

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    the only problem I've had with 10.4 so far is when I try to overclock or underclock the GPU. I can't go down to 200 300 anymore when I underclock, otherwise when I try to restore to default clocks, it gives me the gray screen.
     
  6. mauricio_as

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    I think the problem is a bad grafic card, look at this

    AMD Game Forums - Was stable on 10.1, very much not stable on 10.3+

    im gonna call the asus support, the problem is that i live in mexico and i bought my laptop in the NY Best Buy, well i have found a telephone number in my city i hope the warranty is valid around the world...
     
  7. rschauby

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    Breaks your laptop and slows it down is the worst case. Absolutely nothing is the best case. It's a gimmick at this point until it gets fixed. My advice: don't touch it.
     
  8. rschauby

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    Ziddy, which of the TSS temps is the temp of the GPU core? Obviously most of us (including me) have been seeing the TSS1 temp hitting 95* and you're saying this isn't the core temp we need to be concerned with. I'd like to know which of these temps I need to concern myself with.
     
  9. Kalim

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    You should be concerned with all temps, but as to importance, TSS0 (GPU DispIO), equally followed by TSS2 (Shader) and last, TSS1 (MemIO).
     
  10. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi fellow Notebookreviewer's !

    Im not a rocket scientist if it comes down to these things, but ive noticed my gpu reaches 98degrees celcius when i play games like crysis, just cause 2 or any other recent game... I have the Asus g73jh-tv002z, its a belgian version.. I run on Windows 7 ultimate x64.

    Now, my question i had was if it was possible to do anything about this ? Any tools to lower my gpu temp? How about a good coolerstand ? Couse you guys seem to run on a lower temp... Anyways, thanks a lot you guys.
     
  11. Kalim

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    What are you using to read the 98 °C value?
     
  12. rschauby

    rschauby Superfluously Redundant

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    Hmm well, I just ran Furmark and had to stop it when it hit 103* C after 2 minutes into the test, didn't wanna start a fire. I do live in the warm AZ climate and summer is here, but ambient temperature in my house is 78* F. I keep my G73 on a Zalman NC-1000 cooling pad. I've never had performance issues with it, not even a single line or artifact show up. I'm suspect that the thermal paste or a cooling fan must be out of whack. During the test, the fans did kick in to higher gear, the fan on the right (as you are facing the front of the screen & keyboard) was doing more of the work. The one on the left didn't seem to be moving quite as much, I kinda expected more air to be flowing through them.

    I would consider RMA'ing it, but I am not experiencing any issues, and I'm covered by an extra 2 year warranty on top of the Asus 2yr. If it does burn out, I'm pretty sure I'd be covered.

    I'm pretty sure I am in a club all on my own now, the 100*+ Club
     
  13. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm using the MSI afterburner 1.5.1 tool..
     
  14. Kalim

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    In that case, you are seeing the GPU MemIO (TSS1) temperature. MSI afterburner looks nice, but it reads the wrong sensor if you are concerned about the actual GPU DispIO (TSS0) temperature.
     
  15. lackofcheese

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    What I would like to know is the thermal throttling/shutdown threshold - i.e. which sensor(s) will cause throttling/shutdown, and at what temperature(s).

    For example, I graphed a 15-minute FurMark run on my GX640 here using my graphing script, and although MemIO hit 105°C, Shader and DispIO maxed out at 94°C and 88°C respectively, but there was no throttling and no shutdown.

    Maybe something would happen if Shader hit 100°C, but outside of FurMark the laptop is nowhere near these kinds of temperatures so I don't think there's much to worry about.
     
  16. mauricio_as

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    My laptop shutdowns when it reaches 110C running benchmarking furmark, with xtreme burning mode and post fx checked
    im in process for RMA
     
  17. mauricio_as

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    Using the AMD GPU Clock Tool while running the benchmarking furmark the max temp is reached by the TSS 1 (the MemIO) before shutdowns
     
  18. lackofcheese

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    Do you know what temperature the other sensors were at? It could be that 110°C on MemIO triggers the shutdown, or maybe one of the other sensors hit 100°C or 105°C at the same time and that was actually what caused it.

    In any case, I think that if your laptop doesn't run into trouble (i.e. throttling or shutdown) while doing the things you want to use it for, there isn't really a problem. FurMark is no game, after all. The lifetime of the laptop might be lowered, but that's what warranties are for.

    Still, 110°C on MemIO during FurMark sounds bad - figures in the high 90s seem much more typical for the G73. What's the ambient temperature where you're at? If you're using your laptop with an ambient temperature of 40°C or more, then an RMA probably isn't going to change your results.
     
  19. ziddy123

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    105C on MemIO is about the limit where you should worry.

    But I wouldn't keep stress testing with Furmark, there really isn't a need for it. I haven't played any game or any application that causes the GPU temps to rise that high yet.
     
  20. schockie

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    Thx Kalim! Something tells me your a great help ;). Since im new to this, can you tell me what the difference is between these temps ? And at which temp i should look at? Any idea how i might cool it down? Any program i can use to read my DispIO ? Its probably posted here before on the forum, but between 1000's of pages ... :p. Thx a bunch Kalim, ur a great help (again :p).
     
  21. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Positioning the NC2000 cooler has brought great results. I am blown away by my findings here. Since I got my A1 back from the GPU replacement, I haven't used my cooler.

    Today I am, I'm plugging it into the work pc for power instead of G73 (shouldn't make a diff except I'm weary of drawing power from G73 for the fans). Before I used it, I played several sessions of GTA EFLC and was getting the same non-cooler max temps I've been seeing for a month with about every game of length:

    DispIO mid/high 70C
    MemIO low 90C
    Shader mid/high 80C

    I placed the G73 on the cooler for best airflow through the slots (G73 sits about 3 inches closer to me than the cooler, this puts the slots over the best flow vents) and kicked fans to max. After a 45 min run, my max was:

    DispIO 71C
    MemIO 84.5C
    Shader 81C

    I took the cooler out and layed G73 flat on desk, played for only 15 minutes and the temps were:

    DispIO 77C
    MemIO 92C
    Shader 87C

    I was getting nowhere near this kind of reduction with the G73 centered on cooler, even with the panel off. These temps are with panel on.

    Positioning is everything with the NC2000. Maybe time to do a thorough test and review of the cooler.

    EDIT: I put the cooler back under there and did a 15 min run with a lot of shooting and driving, max temps:

    DispIO 69.5C
    MemIO 83C
    Shader 79.5C

    I am really loving the cooler now.


    Q
     
  22. Xeven

    Xeven Notebook Guru

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    I can verify this as well. My unit sits about 3 inches from the top so that the vents of the unit are directly fed by the vents of the Zalman. This is the most effective position that I've found.
     
  23. ziddy123

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    Quagmire you planning on playing some BC2 tonight?
     
  24. Quagmire LXIX

    Quagmire LXIX Have Laptop, Will Travel!

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    Outstanding. I made this pic a couple of months ago describing where the air flows on it (during my RMAs) and I'm only getting around to testing it now. I'm placing the slots a little lower than the red area. What a difference, I'm going to have to go on the "get a cooler" parade :D
    Do you run your NC2000 off G73 power?

    No can do ziddy, I'm working the god forsaken 11-2300 shifts through Monday. Maybe I can get it together for a Tuesday or Wednesday session (when I'm off) if you fellas are doing it. I'll get with you Monday if that's cool.

    Q
     
  25. Xeven

    Xeven Notebook Guru

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    Yes I do. It seems to work fine. I might move it to it's own power supply if ever get around to replacing it with faster fans. I have some fans I removed off some junk at our lab, but they're a bit too big :D I'm not sure it's gonna be effective though. Having correct air flow (as opposed to a stronger fan) almost always works much better.
     
  26. Quagmire LXIX

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    Indeed, better flow > stronger fan. I imagine you know the fans blades are paddle compared to usual. Unless you can find similar, I don't think fan replacement is going to be effective. NC2000 kinda breaks the typical mold of coolers.

    I ran it off my X1 power all the time. When that PSOD upon turning on the G73, I always had it in the back of my mind that maybe such a power draw from USB on boot could have created it. So I never used my cooler on my A1 until today and like I said, I powered it using the work pc. I'm just gunshy and likely for no good reason. Thanks for answering.

    Q
     
  27. Kalim

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    They represent different monitored areas of the GPU.

    You should look at all of them as they are all important to some degree (pun intended). What I'm saying is that when a program displays a single temperature, as in the case of FurMark v1.80 and MSI Afterburner v1.51, it is meaningless unless you know what specific area of the GPU it's monitoring.

    There are a variety of manufactures that make notebook coolers, I don't have one myself. What I did was raise the back of the G73JH off the table with a 1" diameter stainless steal rod. It's not as good as a cooler, but it does have the added advantage of allowing me to rotate the laptop without dragging the rubber feet off the bottom.

    The applications listed below use different names for the sensors, but if you compare the temperatures you'll see which one is which.

    AMD GPU Clock Tool

    GPU-Z (current test build only)

    HWiNFO32
     
  28. mauricio_as

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    im at 25*C in my office while running furmark,
    but now i have a problem because the warranty is valid only in the United States and i live now in Mexico
     
  29. DCx

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    It doesn't shut down at 110. It shuts down at 111... it'll sit stable at 110 for quite some time ...

    I had this problem with the memIO temp hitting 111 on my first g73. It seemed like it was a poorly seated heat pad on the GPU, because the other temps were 15-20 degrees lower.

    Oh. And my dell 1557 would regularly hit that temp when using the 4570 ... and dell is having problems with that computer. Just sayin' you might want to take care of that.
     
  30. DCx

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    Heh, OCCT will do it ;)
     
  31. mauricio_as

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    so... what are you going to do, RMA?
     
  32. rorage

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    in hwmonitor there is no GPU temperature for me, only the vents and the CPU help?
     
  33. Kalim

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    You can use "AMD GPU Clock Tool" (v0.9.26), "GPU-Z" (v0.4.2 (Test Build)) and/or "HWiNFO32" to read the GPU temperatures.
     
  34. Chango99

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    I'm using AMD GPU Clock Tool, but when I go to Thermal Sensors TSS 0, 1, & 2 show nothing.

    Under Enabled, it says no for all of them. How do I enable them and why are they off in the first place?
     
  35. Kalim

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    First, you should be using the version I suggested. After that, it's just a matter of clicking "Start".
     
  36. rorage

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    thanks about that.
    mine is about 67 when idle
     
  37. Chango99

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    I have GPU-Z and the AMD GPU Clock Tool. Not sure where I'm supposed to be reading temps? Can I get a screenshot to see what ur seeing?
     
  38. Kalim

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    Are you using AMD GPU Clock Tool" ( v0.9.26) and "GPU-Z" ( v0.4.2 (Test Build))?

    I'll be more than happy to include a screen shot, but before I do, it would be helpful to know that you are indeed using these versions and none other.
     
  39. mauricio_as

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    1.Select the TSS 0 from the list
    2.Enable reading for this TSS
    4.Do this for the rest of each TSS (1 and 2)
    5.Press start and check out your temps

    :]
     
  41. luca4s

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    to know gpu temp we have to look TSS 0 right?
    TSS 1 and TSS 2 are useless. (maybe gpu ram temp but anyway i think nothing important)
     
  42. lackofcheese

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    They're all useful.
    TSS0 = DispIO, which would be the display controller
    TSS1 = MemIO, which would be the memory controller (not the memory chips themselves)
    TSS2 = Shader, which would be the processing units on the GPU.
     
  43. Chango99

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    Ah, Enable reading. Thanks
     
  44. Chango99

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    My max temps when playing borderlands worry me a little bit. CPU cores are fine, but the GPU is hitting the 90s, which has me worried.
     

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  45. Quagmire LXIX

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    Near 7 hour session, long live gaming :)

    If your ambient was around 82-84F, I'd say you're on par with mine minus the cooler results.

    Q
     
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    Played about 4 hours of BFBC2 and another 3 of Just Cause 2 and this was my temps. About 78F (25C) ambient.

    [​IMG]

    G73JH-X3, stock drivers, oc'ed the gpu clock to 750/1100 for BFBC2 and everything's dandy. :D

    Constant FPS of 30-70 for each.

    Thank god I got a good G73. <3 All I'm waiting for now is the updated bios and I'll be at peace with the world.
     
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    my gpu temp(max temp reached) would shoot upto 100c after running crysis and 96 after 3dmark Vantage
    Then i finally opened it up and replaced the compound with ocz freeze, now 88 max temp after vantage and 90 after crysis.
     
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    Hello.

    I bought a G73JH a few days ago and I have a couple of questions regarding the temperatures on it.

    1. Is it normal that the right-side vent draws more heat than the left one?

    2. Is it normal the center-right side of the keyboard getting relatively hot? Even when I'm only browsing the web or listening to music? Let me exemplify with the following pic:

    [​IMG]

    I haven't played any game yet, so I dunno if the keyboard temperature will actually raise.

    3. My last question. Is the cooling system able to pull cold air from the bottom if the laptop is sitting directly on the table? Or do I need to lift it a few centimeters, otherwise the laptop won't have room to breath?

    If yes, I wonder if is that what's causing the keyboard to heat up and if should I buy a cooler for my G73JH?


    Thanks for your time :)
     
  49. Kalim

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    Depending how you are facing, one vent is the CPU and the other is the GPU vent. Looking at the screen, the right vent is the GPU.

    I don't know about hot, but the keyboard will get warm due to the GPU.

    Air coming in from underneath can help cool the laptop, but it's not the only source. IIRC, the main intake vents are around the screen.

    Ah, bonus question. ;)

    A cooler really shouldn't be needed, but it won't hurt either. I raised the back of my G73 with a stainless steal rod about one inch in diameter. It provides a little better cooling and allows me to roll the laptop side to side for better viewing angles.
     
  50. neez

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    Since it's the GPU vent, I assume it's normal.

    Warm is the proper word, yea. So once more, it's normal.

    Around the screen as under the speakers grill?

    I'll probably do the same then.

    Thanks for the bonus answer and the previous ones :)
     
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