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    Asus G73jh GPU temp?

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by robjbw, Apr 9, 2010.

  1. betaflame

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    My GPU Temp is 68C with Opera and a download running.

    After playing COD MW2 (all max settings for abt 20mins) the temp rose to 82c. Is this normal?

    By unit came with the 206 bios (KB lights work), and running on the stock 9.12.
     
  3. Tim4

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    Thats usual tempeartures for G73.
     
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    Should I be worried about mine then?

    This is playing Borderlands maxed out for a couple of hours.

    [​IMG]

    I'm on 10.4 drivers and 206 bios.
     
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    What's your ambient temperature? Your idle is ok. Memory controller and shader looks hot.
     
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    Don't really have a thermometer but a clock in my living room says 21C.
     
  7. Chango99

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    I just got a GSOD. I guess 10.4 isn't happy with me either.

    Played again with reverted drivers. MemIO went to 95C, other temps still maxed at the same.
     
  8. be77solo

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    OK, got the 10.5's running, seem just as stable as the 10.4's were, no issues yet, played some Crysis, MW2, FSX, and a long 22 minute Furmark run.

    Out of curiousity, does this look realtively normal for a G73 running in room with an ambient temp of ~74F? Was running furmark, and Everest Ultimate.

    [​IMG]

    Thanks
     
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    Well, I keep my place ~78*F and I get up to 90*C with BFBC2. Can't say it is "normal" but there are quite a few of us getting those temps and not having any problems.
     
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    All I know is that Asus needs to release a vBios with automatic downclocking.

    With 200/300 downclock when doing office work as it should be, my temp is 45C...

    This is the only change I want from Asus right now, everything else is perfect right now.
     
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    @be77solo
    Hit a max of 97C on TSS1 today on a full SP campaign playthrough of BFBC2. Stock drivers.

    Seems a little too hot at 106C.
     
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    I poop on your 95c club ;-P

    BIOS v205 shutdown automatically at 103-104c which took less than 10 mins from idle. On v209 i've had 110-111c but the system no longer shuts down so it's me that quits because i need this laptop to live at least another 2 months before an RMA.

    Idle temp is 77c

    Using the ATI Tool 3D window for stress and GPU-Z for temp mon/log. Double checked using Everest and other temp monitors.

    Using Catalyst 10.5 seems to slow the temp rise down a lot and the fan runs earlier and faster than stock drivers but the temp still rises.

    Room temp here is bloody cold. I'm in Glasgow, Scotland on the couch with a slanket AGAIN!

    Apart from the worryingly high temps, i don't seem to have any other probs. My KB lights still work, FN+ESC doesn't do anything other than spread some wear to keys other than EDSF and Space and my Railroad Tycoon II still works fine.
     
  13. billmcdougal

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    I have had my G73 for a few weeks now and haven't managed to read my GPU temps. I have installed Speedfan, AMD GPU Tool, GPU-Z, and Riva-Tuner. None of these programs seem to show my GPU temp, and the GPU tool yesterday said that it could not find any compatible hardware. Am I missing something (need to configure these apps somehow before they'll work for the 5870?) or is there a problem with my temp sensors?
     
  14. nikolai090

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    Hmm my temps are at 64°C idle. And at most I have seen 86°C playing Bad Company 2 for hours :D
     
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    Yeah you're temps are not THAT hot. But I suppose they could be better.

    I've been playing Crysis on max settings 1080 for 2+ hours and the fan has never been higher than 75
     
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    anyways I'll just point it out again that most of our differences in temps are the environment that we stay at and the coolers we use, if we use any that is. :D
     
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    You might think that, and it would make a big difference. As would altitude! And those are realistic objections.

    ... but I've had 2 g73jhs, and one was hitting 110-111 under stress (but not while gaming, only while stressing it - it was 93 or so while gaming), and the other barely breaks 95 under extreme stress, usually high 80s for games. Same house. Same desk. Turns out that the cooling pads weren't touching the GPU on the first one. Easy fix ... but I returned it instead.

    So... Furmark and OCCT can only get my current g73 up to about 95-96. Gaming goes to mid eighties. I'm at 29C ambient, with low humidity.
     
  18. Kalim

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    AMD GPU Click Tool version? GPU-Z version?
     
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    I can't answer for GPU-Z until I get home, but the AMD GPU Clock Tool was v0.9.8
     
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    You should be using 0.9.26.0
     
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    i agree i have had the same experiances also...and i have to say i am happy with my final one it never gets over 86 with furmark...after 25 min still the same....but i do have ic diamond on it too...lol
     
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    The latest GPU-Z 0.4.3 should work fine for reading temps.
     
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    Just updated to the newest version of HWinfo32 for my temp monitoring, I was previously on an older vanilla HWinfo. The newer version gives a breakout of the 4 sensors on the GPU, and all of them do come in quite a bit lower on this program. One thing that did interest me, the MEMI/O got more than 12*C warmer than the shader in many instances, and this was the temp that my old software monitored. BFBC2 now is returning shader temps maxing out below 90's which is much more comforting than watching the memI/O temps hit 95*+.
     
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    Been running The Last Remnant Bench 1920x1080 for 45 mins now (was already on my HDD since it was lying around in some backup i used and i was too lazy to download another benchmarking tool :p)

    Ambient Temp is 26C and i'm running on stock clock speeds.
    Bios 209
    Stock asus GPU drivers (didn't want to update due to GSOD isues)

    TSS0 (DispIO) went high as 83.5
    TSS1 (MemIO) went high as 95
    TSS2 (Shader) went high as 91

    All temps are reported from AMD GPU clock tool, HWiNFO32 gave me temps 1C lower than the ones reported from the AMD tool.

    As soon as the DIspIO gets to 83, the fan RPM goes up a notch and everyting cools down pretty quickly. I also gotta say even when the fan revs up it's a lot more silent than i expected, nothing compared to the one in my N50V sounded like when the temp sensor broke.
     
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    So euh my gpu temp shows 98 on my g73 when im gaming (clocked at 700x1000), does that mean I should send it back?
     
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    is that the MemIO or DispIO?
    With 28.8C ambient temp my MemIO maxes out at 99C and my DispIO at 83C after 2,5 hours of L4D2.
     
  27. schockie

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    The 98 is the temp i get from msi afterburner 1.5.1.
    I know that thats only one of the 3 temps, but i thought that was the most important one? (since it has the highest temp, its the most dangerous one right?) Correct me if im wrong :p.
    I was also thinkin about buyin myself a cooler, but i'm stuck like a ferrari in quicksand... I can't choose between the zalman 3000series, or the belkin 17'' series... the zalman has 3 vents, but they are badly placed for the g73, while the beklin only has 1, but its design is way better for the laptop...
    Help me guys! Im drowning !!
    oh and thx for responding :)
     
  28. Kalim

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    Afterburner, like FurMark, reads the MemIO temps, which run hotter than the DispIO and the Shader temperatures.

    As to a cooler, after reading some of the posts at NBR, you could try reading some of the reviews here. My current choice is the Zalman ZM-NC2000 Black.
     
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    Hey there- I've been lurking in these forums for a while, and I thought I'd ask you guys about a strange issue I've been having with my G73.

    I noticed that most everyone who has a (somewhat) good G73 has been overclocking to 800/1100- however, after a lot of testing of different speeds, I found that my G73 can go no higher than 780/1080 before a game will GSOD within 2-3 minutes; AMD GPU Clock Tool reports that the GPU is only reaching 80C degrees before this happens. I am using the stock ASUS vBios, and the ASUS 10.1 drivers. I have also tried the 10.5 Catalyst drivers, and both 10.1 and 10.5 with Xeven's vBios V2- all to no avail. I can only go up to 780/1080 before I will get a GSOD within minutes of gaming, and my GPU is always at stable (if not low) temperatures. I did try 780/1100 on the 10.5 Catalyst drivers with Xeven's vBios, but I got a GSOD after 10 minutes of TF2 (maybe due to an overheat, but I'm not sure- I unfortunately didn't take a log of that test).

    I know I shouldn't really be too concerned that I cannot overclock my card all the way, but this is an issue that has been bothering me for a while- any insight on this? I've tried reading several threads on GSODs- but most of them talk about how either the card's voltage or internal temperatures cause GSODs, and neither of those seem to apply in my case. (Also, I cannot get Overdrive to go past 775 on the Core Clock when using Xeven's vBios V2, but that is a slightly minor issue, as I use AMD GPU Clock Tool anyway).

    It may also be worth noting that my ambient temp is 85F degrees, and my G73 is sitting on a wooden table that seems to conduct heat fairly well.
     
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    Well, there are alot of variables involved: what memory modules were installed on the GPU card, general stability of the components, how well the thermal paste was applied, etc.

    Not every card will overclock the same. Thermal heat isn't the only limiter, as how well the internal components interact with each other.

    2 things I would consider here is to get a laptop cooler to improve airflow underneath the unit, and perhaps invest in getting the thermal paste redone.
     
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    Hey Chastity,
    Ive looked around on the forum and ive seen that u have done the flash for the vid bios. Now i was thinking about doing it as well, but im not sure, couse it seems a lot of work. Is it worth it? Does the new bios cool down the laptop? And another thing is the fact that i can't find the damn overdrive in the ccc 10.5 or 10.6 ! Ive read that they didnt put it in their in these versions. Well, what version are you using ? Or don't you use the overdrive in ccc at all? im only using msi afterburner, but that can only downgrade my card to 585 x 700 or somehtin, and it would be handy if i could downgrade it all the way... anyways thanks for helping me (and many others).
    Good job! (like hancock would say)
     
  32. Makou107

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    How would one go about investing in getting the thermal paste redone?
     
  33. tijo

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    Overdrive is disabled in the vBios made by asus. That's why you can't find it. If you want to have access to overdrive, you'll have to flash, the Clevo, MSI or TARD(the one Xeven made) vbios. There's a thread lying somewhere in the asus forums about the G73 vbios, you can read it to satisfy your curiosity if you're interested in flashing the vBios.

    You can use the AMD GPU clock tool to monitor your temps and downclock or overclock your card. Use version 0.9.26. You can also use it to monitor your temps (HWiNFO32, GPU clock tool and GPU-Z all give the same temp readings). You will have 3 sensors listed: TSS0: core temp TSS1: MemIO temp TSS2: shader temp

    MSI afterburner only reports the MemIO temp which is usually 5-10C higher than the actual core temperature.
     
  34. Keith

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    Speaking of Overdrive.....

    I did a bios dump of my 5870 and loaded it up into RBE (Radeon Bios Editor). Upon immediately starting it up, I received a message that said something to the effect of "Overdrive seems to have been disabled by your card manufacturer". I clicked ok and the window went away.

    I then went into the Advanced tab and saw the section where you can set the Overdrive properties. There is a section in there where it shows what the highest overclock limit of Overdrive is supposed to be for your card. Both the core and memory were set to "0". Because I was feeling adventurous, I decided to manually enter 860 for the core limit and 1200 for the memory. I saved the bios, loaded it onto my flash drive, and flashed my card with it.

    To my surprise, I now have a fully functional Overdrive option using the very same bios that came with my card. HDMI, VGA, and HDMI Audio all work. :)

    I apologize if this is derailing the thread.
     
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    Not at all, I think you just hit the G-spot of this topic..
     
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    The lower timings do help with battery life, in conjunction with powersaving modes.

    You need a modded vBIOS to enable Overdrive.
     
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    Hi All,

    New to the NBR forums, though I have been lurking for the past month or so soaking up as much G73 wisdom as possible before my unit arrives in early July. I have been following the modded VBios thread pretty much since inception, but there are a few things I am hoping one of the experts could clear up.

    To my understanding ziddy's vbios makes a slight voltage mod and allows overdrive to enable under/over clocking of the GPU to increase stability. According to tijo, AMD GPU clock tool can be used to over/under clock the GPU as well (is this confirmed btw?). Assuming this is true, is the only advantage of a vbios flash over using AMD GPU clock tool the ability mod voltage? Why go through the risks of a vbios flash when you can adjust clocks with third party software?
     
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    I don't think that it's the thermal paste... as I said, the card often GSODs within seconds of gaming at 800/1100, and AMD GPU Tool reports that the temps when this happens are about 71-75C. There's two things that are bugging me though- in AMD GPU Tool, when I overclock my card, the clocks I entered aren't actually the ones that are set- for example, when I enter 780/1080, it actually does 779.94/1078.12. Clicking the "set clocks" button multiple times actually decreases the clock speeds with each click. It also boots with 699.99/1000. Is this normal, and is this maybe why overclocking to 800/1100 doesn't work (it doesn't actually set the memory clock to 1100)?

    Also, when I did use Xeven's V2 vBios for a bit, I found that when using ATI Overdrive, I could change the Memory speed, but not the Core speed- I could slide it up past 800, but every time I tried to actually set it, it would reset the core clock back to 700- I had to use AMD GPU Tool to set it instead.

    Are either of these indications of a potentially larger problem?
     
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    NVM, got it to work myself. + Rep though.
     
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    hi, want to share info.
    I just change cpu and gpu thermal paste with gelid gc extreme, and the result:
    before changing thermal paste:
    5 minutes furmark
    tss0:84C
    tss1:102C
    after changing thermal paste:
    10 minutes furmark
    tss0:82C
    tss1:89C
     
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    nice results for the memIO
     
  42. tijo

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    Here's a picture showing that you can downclock using the GPU clock tool.
    http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/ptitjo/downclocking.png

    The main advantages of the modded vBios is that you won't have to set the clocks everytime you restart your notebook. The lower voltage also means lower temperatures as well.

    EDIT: Just for those who find those temperatures high for the clock speeds, the ambient temperature was around 30C when the screenshot was taken.
     
  43. Kalim

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    That's not the main advantage of the modded vBIOS, since there is a way to set the clocks automatically every time you restart with the stock vBIOS.
     
  44. tijo

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    True, I was only thinking about the GPU clock tool without any shortcuts created at the time of posting.
     
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    Hi guys , where can i check the temp of my GPU whle playing?
    couse when play any modern game it shuts down after a little while of playing , i think its overheating , any ideas?
     
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    You can use the AMD GPU Tool, and enable logging
     
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    where can i download that?
     
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    AMD GPU Clock Tool throws me a message "No valid devices found"
    whats going on , any ideas?
     
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    what does this mean? there are no values on the current value part , how can i turn on my thermal sensor?
    [​IMG]
     
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    Check your version, so far the only that works with the HD5870 i know of is 0.9.26 (the one i have and it certainly works). Otherwise, you can download the latest GPU-Z from techpowerup it will also detect your GPU.

    If your your unit is working properly, you should get max temps of around:
    TSS0: 83-84C
    TSS1: 95-100C
    TSS2: in the low 90s C

    AS an example, over 3 hours of mass effect, max settings (set through the ME config utility) 1920x1080, no AA forced through the driver, stock drivers and vBios.
    TSS0: 84
    TSS1: 97.5 (a bit on the high side)
    TSS2: 93.5

    EDIT: I don't know why, but you gotta launch HWiNFO32 once, open the sensor window, close the program, launch again to be able to read the temps. The program reports right temps just fine though, the GPU clock tool, GPU-Z and HWiNFO32 all give the same readings.
     
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