Asus G75 680M upgrade

I believe controlling the fan speed is what MMTool is for

 

lol

it is just to insert the vbios into bios.

 

that does not help much to us, the ID was missing in the energy plan to fan data to bind to Hardware ID, IDLE fan data with full speed comes at me do not ask the bus there should be more on ACPI concentrate when it will overrun it is not in the paths one to start rebuilding

 

good job i will try 5870 to a GT670M

 

Asus one tho, bigger chance of sucess

 

I think the ASUS 5870M is bigger than the standard MXM, which equals more problem

 

not at all , its little bit bigger in width but not in lenght , but keep in mind that your not going to make that card work on any brand except asus .

 

nVidia and AMD swaps not always work i believe.

 

The Asus GTX670M is wider and shorter. Clevo GTX670M is taller and not so wide like asus one. Well it's his choice. Better do some dimensional comparisons between Asus gtx670m and clevo gtx670m before purchasing one. The main thing is, will it fit?

 

You know what is sweet? hackness's upgraded 680M on his Clevo. Mmm, G73JH owners, don't you want to see and feel the awesomeness of the joy of gaming with his 680M?

 

Don't give us false hopes

 

Mmm, 680M is just pure, optimized gaming beast! HTWingNut just posted 7100 score on 3DMark 11... G73Jh users, remember the 5870M scores around 2500 for 3DMark 11? Yeah HTWingNut just scored 7100, in a 15" machine. And he thinks there is still some juice left, and looking for a way to unlock OC even further.

Mmm that must feels so good to see a score like that on your screen.

 

Hey!
you said your going to try a gtx 675 on Jw but is it a troll ?

 

I kinda doubt that Hulawafu77 has the technical knowledge to do that, he can buy only fixed mainstream friendly products.

 

Would take the 7970M over the 680M any day of the week. PCS who I bought my HM from are offering the entire upgrade labour and card for £240 here in the UK once they have stock in going to contact them.

The 680M is a joke price for 3-500 more 3DMark11 points for double the price.

The 5870M still scores similar to the 660M in the G75 so apart from the CPU you still have no reason to upgrade anyway lol.

 

I'll do it eventually but guess what happen, the GTX 680M did not come with an X-clamp and I had to remove the one on the gtx675M and stick it on there lol! Anyway I still need to check if the GTX460M's x-clamp fits.

 

Still I see it tough to fit a 680m in the G75... You have seen the pictures I posted ? There is almost a centimeter inside the HDD bay... That change to a 1.8' SSD would eventually help but I've seen that to mount a 1.8' in a regular 2.5' you need a physical converter that is actually 2.5' son no space save. Also connections of a 1.8' are different to the ones in a 2.5'. Not only that but it interfere in both HDD bays so you could say that all the storage capabilities of the notebook have been reduced immensely... What do you think ? Any ideas to make it fit without having to almost destroy these features ?

 

hi,
Adapter / Converter ,

Sata / mSATA does not really matter, all adapters are available,
would anyone try plugging into the 680m G75 mainboard to see if works, extend only to test main board and plug in 680m

 

ACPI if it can not be edited but can then be replaced? ,
BIOS G75 and P702 have compared times, and good luck can replace ACPI?
indications are almost identical in both BIOS:


edit :
I have noticed even more details


Clevo EC hat Vbios identifikation


and yet another feature: HDMI port, thus it may be well upgreade the HDMI does not work, will replace the port?

 

It might work if you extract and replace, the addresses look fairly similar, but I doubt it's gonna work without having to brick many times...

 

Have any of you priced a 680M yet? It's a $900 upgrade... What is going on in this thread and the thinking here? You brick a 680M, RJTEch is not going to reimburse you and the warranty is gone. Not only time wasted, now you are wasting more money than your G73JH is worth. You are only $600 away from just buying a Clevo ith a 680M, what is the point of risking throwing away $900?

 

We know it is a big risk. Me personally, I really do not like the looks of Clevo and Eurocom models, they really resemble the looks of what Charles Babbage would have imagined a laptop would be when he invented the punched cards; and Alienwares are just extremely expensive to me (I got my G75 for under 1400). I am really an Asus person, not just for the looks as I might have suggested before but for everything else too. Also this things are always an extension of a persons passion for this type of handy things (nevertheless it is quite expensive for me, I live outside the US and a 680m would probably cost me 50% more that it would to a US resident). In addition to this I do not know squad about all this BIOS and software issues but just want to know if this is possible.

 

Eurocom sells them for $725.

 

Guys, I have been doing again some looking into the back of the notebook and I think I discovered that it is not necessary to use 1.8' HDD. I imagined a way to re-locate the existing bays and make the room needed for the GPU to fit. This image shows my point:

From June 30, 2012

I found that the area marked in red is empty. this means that HDD can be moved further down by cutting the plastic with a saw or any tool. Connections from the HDDs to the mobo are via a separate PCB that lays in the middle of both HDDs. I think this separate PCB can be moved around since it is not hooked physically to the mobo.
To sum up, you can cut a bit of the lower part of the chassis, move the bays down and move the connectors down too, thus eliminating the need to use 1.8' SSDs.

I would be dismantling my notebook this weekend as posting the images to find out if this is possible.

 

What's the point? First you need to find out if a different GPU works or not. You can do that while the notebook is disassembled. If it works, then you worry about fitting it back together.

 

Kind of all at the same time, if it works but no way to make it fit when putting all back in, then there was no point of buying the new GPU. I do not know about software problems so I'm trying to contribute with progress on physical issues: also as soon as people have sorted compatibility problems we can get a full upgrade guide as quick as possible by using all solutions.

 

There's always a way to fit it. Compatibility should come first. So far, noone has tried it. G73sw, for example, has ample room for an MXM card.

 

your right of course.

out of interest the Asus cooling is much quieter and better. if they manage to fit a decent card in the G73, G75 then it will benefit more.

dont get me wrong the sagers are nice and all, but they do feel a bit workman which is ok, a bit dull but get the job done and in a raw unsophisticated fashion.

i still think its mad to around given the price of the cards and laptop! wait until asus realise alienware and even sager/clevo are walking over them in performance then we will get the good cards.. unfortunately they will probably stick with the ludicrously expensive 680m and make the laptop thousands of dollars / pounds

 

If you see the interior of a G75 you will notice that there is little room for a card such as the 680m. That's why I look after these things. Also, I think that to just make it fit in and be able to test if it at least works, you will have to cut a bit of the chassis, so physical constrains are a deal in here. I seem to have sorted out a way to solve them but still have to check if it is possible. This weekend I will be tearing up my notebook and give you the confirmation.

 

I`m really interested in buying the G75 and a 680M to see if they can work together. I haven`t done any modding on notebooks before so I have very little experience which is why I`m hesitating. But we have VBIOS from both Alienware now and from Sager, plus we have the people who can help us software wise.

I tried contacting Asus through many ways but I haven`t got a respond from anyone about including 680M. So I guess we gotta do it ourselves (if possible).

One major problem I`ve found is the weird MXM shape Asus use, while the MXM cards from Sager/Dell are plain rectangular shape. So I think you need to customize a bit to make the 680M sit firmly attached

 

I don't think Asus will answer that since it doesn't fall into what they'd consider proper use for the notebook.

As far as modding is concerned, i'd say a lot of modding instead of a little.

 

Not to be out of topic, but you can actually do this by modding the vBIOS for more voltage to the core



Anyway have anybody tried to stick a 680M in a G75? Just to see if the machine boots with the card, then finding a way to fit it in the G75's chassis and get the heatsink to work with the card is the least of our worries

 

Do you have $800 to try this? I doubt you can return the GPU after you try to use it in the G75.

 

Sure, if you give me 800$ to buy a 680M + 1500$ to buy the G75

 

Unless one of you guys actually buys a 680m, this thread is just a waste of time.
You can try it in a G73jw/G73sw/G75vw, shouldn't be a difference. G73jw/sw can actually accomodate the card though.

 

G75 disassembly tutorial (translated)

www.hwupgrade.it/forum/showpost.php?p=37661984 - Translator

 

Guys, the other day I had some spare time and went ahead and disassembled my G75. I can almost confirm you that the from part is empty and that the PCB to which HDDs connect can be moved towards the front of the notebook by doing some handy things on the chassis. This means that there is no need to use 1.8' SSDs and that is for me a relief. I did not take any photos since I opened my notebook just to the point of not voiding the warranty so the picture I could take would have terrible angles. I an actually staling one of the images I found from someone who disassembled his G75 entirely to show you what I mean.

From June 30, 2012

This image shows the chassis. I have marked in green the location of the PCB that contains the SATA connections. Beneath that silver metal plate that is inside the green marked circle you can find such PCB. It is screwed at two points that can be easily relocated by making new holes in that silver metal plate and screwing it to the plate. This is all regards the moving of the connectors.
I also marked a green rectangle which shows the empty space in the front. With the help of a hand mini lathe machine like this one (will cut plastic as if it were butter):



You can cut a bit the chassis so as to be able to move the HDDs.
With this two steps you can easily re-locate the HDDs in a way that you do not need to use 1.8' SSDs and now the 680m would just fit by sawing the screw that I showed in one of my earlier posts.
You could wonder, how do I keep HDDs attached to the notebook ? Well that can be easily done by making other holes in the chassis and screwing them in those, or as a last resource to use some kind of super adhesive tape.
As regards the heat sink, you can buy a flat plate of pure copper in any shop and cut it into size of the card. If the cards surface is not all the same height, you can figure something out. Then drill the four holes so they coincide with the ones in the card and screw the plate into the card. The not so accessible step is to un-solder the copper heat pipe form the Asus original heat sink and then re-soldering it into the copper plate. If you have access to any hardware store or locksmith that can do that for you, then its is as easy as asking because for them that is quite easy. This can also be done with a heat gun but not sure how. Once all done, you have the heat sink all figured out and cooling performance increased since now you have a 100% copper surface to cool the GPU. If you want to go extreme and increase cooling you can also copper plate the actual thins of the heat sink that match the exhaust to gain some extra thermal conductivity along all the cooling system. This can also be done by a locksmith sometimes or any other shop that performs tasks such as plating art pieces or even door knobs and lamps.

That my plan. Leave all the software issues to you guys, I do not know a thing about how to solve compatibility and neither have a 680m to try. I know it sound a bit task but if you have access to this shops I mention and the tools this should be pretty straight forward and should take no more that 2 weekends.

PD: Hackness, were you able to try your 680m in your G73 ?

 

hi ,
when the HDD installed long wilt forward then have a problemm with top cover,

 

There's no problem with the top cover, you can saw everything avoiding to tear off the screwing points of the chassis.

 

important
I noticed that Clevo uses GPU for its 3-pin fan data, because it can not control the fan can work properly without the 4 pin pin ASUS aud 3 to pooling?

 

What does that mean ?

 

The interface for the fan in the G75/Clevo is different


Btw, G75 complete teardown (improved)


Screws and top lid

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/....it/forum/showpost.php?p=37661984&postcount=5


Motherboard and everything else

benyouhui.it168.com/thread-2238534-1-1.html - Translator

 

That Chinese images are golden...

And now what does that mean ? Clevo's 680m would have the fan at 100% all the time or that the upgrade is not possible ? Someone also said that Eurocom sells 680m too for a good price.

 

hi ,
G75 is feasible for the ventilators and control themselves? a Clevo VBIOS has 100% fan as a default the numbers of revolution is then controlled by XX% of ACPI and ASUS uses VBIOS fan control with 30% and defalout ACPI XXXX rpm, I vermutte that each Clevo GPU with full speed of the fan is working, the best solution to integrate data from fans ASUS GPU VBIOS to VBIOS Clevo,
because of the 3 pin and Clevo Asus pin 4 has a VBIOS Clevo will only work with 100% GPU Fan

edit ,
ACPI

 

The GTX680M died yesterday It's being RMA'd.

 

Nooo ! What happened ? Where did you install it ?

 

@hackness,
really a real pity that the 680m is evaporated hofentlich RMA without critical problems,



here I have an ACPI tool that should help us here interested in the Asus ACPI adapt
https://www.acpica.org/downloads/

 

Installed in my P150EM, it actually stopped working 3 times and shows unknown VGA to windows at stock vbios and I had to restart during I was using the GTX680M, and yesterday it finally died after I boot up the laptop. Something probably wasn't right even before I got the card.

 

That's something I will never understand, don't they check if it works before they ship it to you ? I do not live in the US, so imagine I buy myself one of those and when it arrives, it is dead... hell to RMA, I'm outside US, nobody will take it and replace it and I've just lost $700. Anyways, let us know if this works when you get the new one. It has been confirmed that the G73JH can fit and work a 7970m. A guy named Sosa finally proved that it works just fine, with no fan issues. http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/657920-ati-hd-7970m-asus-g73jh-16.html
So lets have some hope for the G75.

 

It was working fine, but what I don't get is sometimes the card will turn off itself and windows starts to install microsoft HDMI driver (what the heck?) That's the moment the card suddenly cannot be read, only a restart will solve that problem and seems like it's a sign that the card is dying, I told him to make sure his technician tests every bit of it before sending back to me.