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    Asus G751 coming with Maxwell GTX 980M and GTX 970M

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Cloudfire, Sep 19, 2014.

  1. Meaker@Sager

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    Yeah I know it can suck how long certain places can take but at least the machine is worth the wait :)
     
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    The other one is hidden. Looks for the XoticPC review.
     
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    Do you think i should update the bios even if i have no problem at all?
     
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    When are we getting the G751 in the UK? Im practically refreshing Overclockers.co.uk every day (as I want to buy on finance).
     
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    d0r1n Notebook Guru

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    Can u give me a link?
    I searched but i can't find where in the review it shows the hidden m.2 ssd
     
  7. Richdog

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    Send them a webnote and ask? Either way it's not even listed on the website.
     
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    In the review he doesn't show you the 2nd SSD, he just points at the place it located and said the SSD is there and you need a complete teardown to access it.
     
  9. d0r1n

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    Wow...that's a bum....not good for sell

    Right now i'm focused on msi gt72
     
  10. ZerockX

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    Yes GT72 is more easy to upgrade, something Asus should learn from. For me, i love the Asus design, GT72 looks more like a toy than a machine.
     
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    100% true....asus looks like a gaming laptop,but msi are more powerfull and very easy to upgrade.
     
  12. ZerockX

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    More powerful? What the heck you talking about. The same cpu with the same gpu with pretty much the same cooling efficency.
     
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    The only real difference is the MSI has 8GB VRAM and is upgradeable. Tome that'snot a big deal, but I can see why some regard it as a major plus as they only have to upgrade the GPU down the line. The ASUS seems to have a better chassis design and cooling though.
     
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    I've been researching the G751JH for the last month and finally pulled the trigger on the G751JY-DH72X @ Newegg for $2999, yes I know it's overkill but wanted the turnkey 500GB SSD, the higher end CPU is nice but definitely overkill for my "needs" (gaming only.) But I anticipate a huge improvement over my aging G73JH which has been the best lappy I've ever owned, but my back hurts from lugging it ;)
     
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    Not so much more powerful,but vram and better cool plus simple upgrade are big bonuses,,,,,let's not forget super raid 3 with 4x m.2 ssd
     
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    d0r1n, the MSI Graphics card upgrade has a disclaimer "*MXM upgrade program is only available in selected countries." From the upgrade page "The MSI GT72 MXM upgrade kit is available in select regions only."

    Anyone know what countries/regions?

    Usually an MXM upgrade requires a new BIOS. Does MSI provide the BIOS upgrade for your machine?

    MSI doesn't mention the BIOS update in the Upgrade "Manual" or Video
    http://event.msi.com/gt72mxm/Born-to-Upgrade-how-to.pdf
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZZ5hGDZpI8
    http://event.msi.com/gt72mxm/

    And, of course the most important item is what does it cost? In the video it is mentioned if you have a GT72 870m/880m you can upgrade to the 970m/980m, so what does it cost?

    The upgrade price I have found for Clevo is $1275 for the 980m. Not exactly cost effective - I might as well sell the laptop and get a new one [​IMG]

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GEFO...er_Computer_Graphikkarten&hash=item462a95ef24

    One of the main issues with supporting new graphic cards in an old chassis is the power supply, often it isn't strong enough to support the new MXM card. Newer / faster than 980m cards may require more power than the model is designed to provide.

    Does MSI allow for upgrading the Power too?

    Note: After watching the video closely, it doesn't look like the GT72 CPU is upgradable - it isn't in a socket, it looks flush mounted to the motherboard - and not on a daughter card either.

    Note2: It is clearly mentioned this upgrade voids the warranty, if it goes wrong, you are on your own. That seems odd, and not comforting.
     
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    Amazon has sent me an email to let me know that they will be shipping out the G751JT-CH71 around the 13th of November.

    It's a while later than I would have liked, but I like having a solid date for it.
     
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    I'm starting to think i'll only get this sweet laptop next year :(

    Oh well, better late than never I guess...
     
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    UltimaXemnas, sometimes it helps to get to know a local dealer, and build up a relationship to help special order items. My G750JH was supposed to be available around the beginning of August 2013, then the end of August, then September... finally after a lot of work with local dealers one of them was able to get 2 in stock in November 2013... so I know how you feel, and it was worth it :)
     
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    Many times I have ordered things from Amazon when they were out of stock and very often they seem to find/get more, faster than they estimated, in stock. Hopefully you get lucky and they ship far sooner.

    I received the Newegg order confirmation email for my order but I won't know how soon the order will be shipped until Monday at best. I did get 2 day shipping, so hopefully it gets out their door early this week and maybe I can even get it by the end of the week.
     
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    IMO the MXM slot in the MSI GT72 is not a reason to choose it over the ASUS now that they both have a soldered CPU, unless you plan to pay the $$$ for the better 48XX-49XX i7. (A new GPU would be bottlenecked by the old CPU...) :(

    The only + for GT72 is weight, more SSD slots, 6-8GB of VRAM, and maybe speakers. (Everything else is in ASUS' ball court.) ;)
     
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    Oh that's good - I'm hoping they release it a bit before the 13th then. I made that assumption based on the fast I chose 1-day shipping and it's estimated delivery being on the 14th - 18th.
     
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    This is playing Metro Last Light: Redux. The temps are higher than when I played Diablo 3, but still good. CPU and GPU seem to be similiar with most games I'm playing.

    After Metro.jpg
     
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    Does anyone know if it's possible to replace the screen on the Asus G751JT with a touchscreen? A notebook with a 970/980M with a touchscreen would be ideal. Are there any other notebooks with this combination?
     
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    Touchscreen is not a priority for a gaming notebook, i have never seen a x70/x80m notebook with it, perhaps with the 960m?
     
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    A little bit higher this time. Have you updated the bios to the latest version?
     
  27. Shunsai

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    Thanks for the reply. I'm aware of the proposed G751 with optional touchscreen with the 960m if/when it comes out. I'm also aware touchscreen isn't a priority for many gamers. Yet and still I'm asking if anyone has any information specifically about 970/980m with touchscreen (whether as an upcoming option or an aftermarket option) . If someone could address either of the 2 questions I asked, I would appreciate it.

    If you don't know, no need to reply. But thanks anyway.
     
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    Does any1 know if u can buy g751 in Europe yet or when I can, thanks?!
     
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    I'm wondering when the release date for the EU is too.
     
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    Yes I have. No idea what it did.
     
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    In France i think at the moment only one store has the G751 (1500€ and 2500€ versions): Asus g751 - Achat / Vente Asus g751 pas cher - Cdiscount
    I bought mine there and got it more than one week ago.
     
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    Checked with them today - the 1799 Euro option is in stock at the moment. EDIT: As well as the others.
     
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    How long did it take for delivery? R u based in UK? Are they trustworthy reselller? Thanks for ur help
     
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    Has anyone tried playing FFXIV with the new Asus laptop?
     
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    No i am from France, i don't know if they ship outside France. But if you wanna know delevery was fast, i preordered, then 3 days after the product was in stock i got it.
    And this is one of the biggest french online reseller, but it has not the best reputation (although i didn't have any problem with them).
     
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    Darn, so hard to wait, the JY will be in stock in about 1-2 weeks in Hungary for $2050 (with 4860hq cpu).
    The JT with 970m will have a better pricetag (around $1550), but I will go for the 980m ;)
     
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    Give them some time, I actually rather prefer to wait another month, just to see which problems might appear ;)
     
  38. TomJGX

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    Does it come with a french keyboard? I would think so but to be sure I'm asking..

    Wth.. That's so cheap... Hey if your'e upgrading to the G752, I'll buy this of you :)...
     
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    HI, can someone tell me on the G751 can you have an m2 drive and 2 x 2.5" inch drives installed or can you only have one m2 and one other 2.5" drive installed?
     
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    A French keyboard, of course. azerty.
     
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    Unless XoticPC wants to do a full tear-down of the unit to prove their claims, it will only have M.2 SATA + HDD or SSD + HDD. (two slots) (they were showing over 1000mbps tho) ;)
     
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    Asus released their own tear down for us at...

    G751 Upgrade Guide - Republic of Gamers

    Meantime, I have been installing several racing simulations onto my own g751-JY. I can tell you the IPS screen is gorgeous and that it runs everything I have thrown at it including: Assetto Corsa, Project Cars, Grid, etc. I have clubsport pedals, a Porsche 911 GT2 wheel, logitech g35 headphones and wireless logitech keyboard and mouse running at the same time (filling all four usb ports) and I have been duplicating the video on a larger monitor using an hdmi cable. All I can say is even after racing for several hours ... this laptop never even skipped a beat. It is AMAZING. Wireless networking has also been working extremely well.

    I have three gripes tho. First, the SSD and the HD were partitioned into two drives each. Second, even tho it comes with a physical blu ray player, It does not come with software to play blu rays, much less dvds (although it does come with some burning software which I havent delved into at all). And, lastly, while I could easily prevent the laptop from sleeping, I can't figure out how to keep it from shutting down when I close the laptop lid. Nitpicky, I know. But, there is not much to complain about.
     
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    Thanks. Do you happen to know if the m.2 can be replaced with a standard ssd? Thinking of replacing both drives with 2x1tb Samsung ssd and using the 512m.2 as a very fast external data drive with a m.2 to sata converter in a 2.5" external USB 3 enclosure.
     
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    As for gripes 1 and 2 those are typical Asus. I still don't understand their insistence on partitioning the drives the way they do. Also, on my ancient G73JH w/Blu ray player it didn't have the software either. Oh well.
     
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    Yeah i just noticed that. And to troll us, Asus gave a burning bluray software but we can't read them. And of course, the software is from cyberlink... who f*cking edits powerDVD!!!
     
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    FwyFlyer/BigDRim, Asus usually provides "ASUS DVD", it should be installed already, but if not then run Asus Install - it will show the items available for installation / upgrade. Even though it is named "..DVD" it will play Blu-ray's as installed on a laptop model that came with Blu-ray. If you upgrade to a Blu-ray later on your own you won't be able to use the Asus DVD program to play Blu-ray's, just the DVD capability it was sold with.

    Here, Asus Install is showing what I don't have installed.

    asus install - what I dont have installed.JPG

    I have my own subscription to Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultimate Edition so I can use it whenever / wherever I need to so I don't use the Asus provided software from Cyberlink.

    The disk partitioning thing is just Asus's choice, it's not a bad idea, but just a bit outside many consumers idea of how to use storage. Even though it is a good idea generally to maintain data safe from an individual partition failure - for most people it is an inconvenience.

    For me I keep backups outside the laptop of the things I don't want to lose, and especially for the C partitions splitting up the small drive into even smaller partitions it is a bit too much. I always backup and combine the partitions to recover the space into the single C partition.

    Here is a view, after backing up the recovery partition with Asus Backtracker, combining partitions, deleting OEM / locked partitions with diskpart

    G750JH disk partitions - after diskpart deletes + extending C partition with freed space.JPG

    Changing the Power Plan advanced option - selecting what to do when the lid is closed:

    balanced power plan lid actions.JPG

    Asus usually has good reasons for doing what they do, and like every company these days is running faster and leaner than they should to stay profitable.

    The relationship you enter into when you buy high end technology is such that everything isn't served out on a silver platter - some assembly - self learning - and exploration is helpful to smooth out the relationship and make it successful.

    If you find a problem, or just don't like the way something is done, let Asus know so they can take user input into consideration on their next release. Asus is really good about that. The IPS Panel, no Optimus, upgrading M.2 SATA to M.2 PCIE are all in some part due to user input.

    There are lots of user input channels in to Asus. I use the Technical Inquiry, Chat, and Phone calls. Here are some of the links, some international, some North America.

    http://support.asus.com/contactus.aspx

    http://www.service.asus.com/#!contact-us/cw8z

    http://www.service.asus.com/#!service-programs/c24xb

    Be patient and clear in your communications, unless you speak their native language they are trying to understand yours, and sometimes nuances get lost in the translations.

    A successful communication is as much your responsibility as theirs - politely try again and put the effort into making the communication successful :)
     
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    Unfortunately i have nothing like "asus dvd".
     
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    I do like that they dropped optimus, if you are not going to have a switch on this class of machine, just leave it off and get it efficient.
     
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    Did you load/run Asus Install and see if you have the option to install it?

    If not, then something has changed, and you should contact Asus for a download/license for Blu-ray Playback.

    http://vip.asus.com <== create a login, register your laptop, and file a Technical Inquiry to Asus clearly stating the need / problem.

    Obviously you should get a license/software to playback Blu-rays, so something got messed up in the build/install for the G751 OS - it happens, work it out with Asus, and please come back and let us know the resolution. :)
     
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    What's the online shop in Hungary then as the french shop only ships to France/belguim
     
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