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    Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by Riddhy916, Jan 12, 2012.

  1. hobblyjig

    hobblyjig Notebook Enthusiast

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    To be honest. I wouldn't upgrade my laptop just to get a rebranded GPU. The decision for me is get a 660m now, or wait for a 680m later (Asus may or may not have a 680m laptop, but someone will). I wish there was more info about when the 680m will release and whether or not Asus will have a laptop with it. I can wait 6 months. But much longer and I'd rather just get the 660m now, and then upgrade again in 12-18 months.
     
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    There won't be 680m gpu in G75. I can promise you that.
     
  3. sarge_

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    NVidia thinks we're all idiots and just gives older cards new names. 485m=580m=675m, 470m=570m=670m.
    Sadly, that's true for most consumers. If you don't wanna get screwed by the mobile industry, you'd want either a 660m or a 680m.

    As for Optimus, Optimus Technology

    And G75 is reported to be in two variants, 660m and 670m.
     
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    Even thought GTX660M is only 128Bit, its memory bandwidth is still larger than the GTX460M/560M at stock. It's 64GB/s for the 660M and 60GB/s for the 460M/560M. Another thing about the 660M is the texture fillrate. 660M has 30.4billion/sec and 560M has 24.8billion/sec, 460M has the worst, 21.6billion/sec(The one on nvidia site says 16.1billion/s but after checking the 460M using GPU-Z it shows 21.6Billion/s for the texture fillrate and 16.1GPixel/s for the pixel fillrate). It's actually still pretty decent :D

    Editing note: I just gave it a go trying to achieve a 660M's texture fillrate + bandwidth on my GTX460M, monitoring through GPU-Z, crashed around 900MHz on core which leaves it at 28.8 Billion/s. So I'm assuming that a GTX660M is about a GTX460M/560M OC'd to 950MHz on core clock and 1334MHz on memory clock. If there's more room for the GTX660M that'd be a pretty big gap between the GTX660M and the GTX560M.

    Edit #2: If the above testing works, it'd leave GTX660M being 22% more powerful than a GTX560M and 40% more powerful than a GTX460M if only comparing the GPU and the GTX670M(Texture fillrate 33.5billion/s) is about 10% more powerful than the GTX660M.
     
  5. Kevin

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    Smart is a funny way of spelling painfully bad.
     
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    Easy access to RAM and HDD to upgrade.
    Easy access to the GPU and CPU fan to clean it with compressed air and actually see the fans cleaner.

    Msi also have a backpanel to access the components except they don`t have the access to the fans like this notebook does.

    I like it.
     
  7. willoc

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    how much longer do I have to wait :(
     
  8. AlwaysSearching

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    No 675 either which is a shame.
     
  9. ickibar1234

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    Why did Asus drop the little secondary display that was on the G50 series? It was cool. And no orange trim on these new ones :)

    Whenever someone reads this and has a G55/G75 in front of them, could you give us the exact model#s of the 2 fans so I can see if it's more powerful than the Forcecon DFS541305MH0T “F8U5” high performance fan in my laptop right now, and compatible with my G50VT?
    thanks
     
  10. Zymphad

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    17.3" FHD (1920*1080) / Intel Core i7-3610QM (2.3GHz) / 16GB DDR3 / Nvidia GTX 660M 2G GDDR5 / 750GB 7200RPM / DL DVD±RW/CD-RW / W7 Home Premium (64bit) / 802.11BGN / 2.0M Pixel / Bluetooth 4.0 / 8 Cell Battery / HDMI / Instant On

    For $1499 price on that, I like it. 3D is overrated, so I'll take the 256 SSD instead. 670/675M are rebadges and I know 660M has 128bit bus, I'd still prefer to get the 28nm kepler. I haven't been gaming much as of late, so this is good enough upgrade for me. I'd probably upgrade it to a BD drive though.

    And it's thinner and lighter? Just have to wait a bit and see what the prices will be from MSI and Clevo with an AMD alternative. I'm still leaning towards a Sager with the 28nm GCN AMD instead.
     
  11. stege

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    I'm skipping the whole ivy bridge-sandy bridge gen, I'm replacing my current rig with Haswell and GTX 7xx. This way, I can easily upgrade the CPU with 14nm Broadwell a year after initial purchase.
    I can still play BF3 on 1366x768 for now...
     
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    Are you from the future?
     
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    I hear that. Hopefully Haswell will bring some greatly improved single core performance. Some web sites take a ton of computational power to scroll smoothly(Chrome; tomshardware). If Intel isn't going to change the socket from Haz to Broad, that's be awesome. BIOS issues might still be there though.
     
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    Not very impressive in my book considering that you can get an MSI G-series with a better GTX 570M for less right now. True, you do get a faster Ivy Bridge 3610QM in the ASUS setup, but who's gonna notice a difference in the real world anyway? Upgrading an HDD to an SSD would be a much more noticeable boost.

    On another note, I think it's astounding how Intel keeps cramming these progressively faster CPUs into notebooks like clockwork. Last benchmark I saw had the entry-level mobile i7-3610QM beating out AMD's flagship desktop FX-8150 at stock in Cinebench. Imagine if team green and team red took the same approach as Intel in their mobile GPU's. If that were the case, we would have the mobile equivalent of a desktop GTX 680 now!!! :eek:
     
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    Does anyone know the dimensions of the g55 and g75?
     
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    As the owner of a G53 with pre Sandy bridge and a 460m. I thin the new G55 is a solid upgrade. If I had sandy bridge and a 560m, I wouldn't upgrade.
     
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    I totally agree. Otherwise, look elsewhere for an upgrade.
     
  18. Zymphad

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    It does come with 256 SSD. I'm not interested in 40nm rebrand, already have 40nm gpu, waste of time. This time more concerned with power and heat than performance. Nothing less than kepler or gcn. Much prefer the 660m

    7970m will be 65watt. Another failure from Asus only offering Nvidia. Looks like be getting a zsSager. Lately Asus never fails to disappoint.


    Sent from my SGH-i937 using Board Express
     
  19. galaga13

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    this might be out of time right now, but that samsung appears to be sweet, great specs, only concern is the exhaust vents being in the front, besides that is awesome, samsung is showing they can give a heck of a fight in every department, cellphones, thin laptops, tv and now gaming laptops. Really disapointed with asus, i expected a laptop with top of the line gfx (gtx 680). i guess the best shot is to wait for the kepler high end cards.
     
  20. octiceps

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    Looks like the only option with the 256GB SSD is the rebrand G75...and it's $1,889 not $1,499. :eek:
     
  21. ciddireblackire

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    Also note that's the SRP.

    I won't know exact price until Distro decides to allow pre-orders or holds
     
  22. octiceps

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    Can't imagine that it'll go for much less than the MSRP, unless no one's buying it. :rolleyes:
     
  23. fluffydelusions

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    Just want to know when I can preorder and when it releases :)
     
  24. MicSpeed

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    It seems samsung NP700G7C is similar to the NP700G7A and not that laptop with exhaust vent in front... You can see it here InfoJornal - Samsung anuncia disponibilidade do notebook NP700G7C com Ivy Bridge para games (portuguese language). I am waiting for it...
     
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    Ok I notice there is a 2gb and 3gb 660m. Is the 2gb the gimp version like with the 560m?
     
  26. ciddireblackire

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    No, only 2GB 660M w/ ASUS.

    My source was incorrect with that listing and has since been modified
     
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    Ok thanks. Btw, do you when they will be available for either purchase or preorder?
     
  28. Yiddo

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    Sad to see they are going with the 660M even if it is Kepler I was expecting more from Asus with their next refresh my 2760QM sits just below the lower end Ivy and my 6990M will destroy it so I guess I will be waiting for the G76 at this rate. :(

    It will no doubt be released at an obscene price in the UK so grab the sandy bridge while the price is low and wait for the Ivy refresh,..

    Booooooo Asus!

    Made me chuckle. +1
     
  29. Frost_Bite

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    Does anyone know what msi will be bringing out for this year? And if the g55will have more models, like possibly one with the 670m, or the 256 gig ssd and 16 gig ram.
     
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    So many of you say that g75 with 660M will be better bcs of new kepler, power consumption and optimus? All asus g series latops GPU from 400 series supportes optimus. But asus didn`t installed that feature. So what makes you feel that now they will? Alienware were the only ones who made that hapen.
    Anyways, I need to decide between 660M and 670M, a I need the best performance since all G laptops are quite and cold as ice. Can you make some arguments for and against 670M? Thnks
     
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    Alienware have Optimus and been using that for a long time now with the 580M/560M and offer manual switching with 6970M/6990M, Sager/Clevo will offer Optimus now with their 660M/670M/675M/680M models, MSI will also do that with the GE60/GE70 with GT650M and GTX 670M.

    A lot of OEMs now offering Optimus
     
  32. hackness

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    If you work out using the posted texture fillrate on nvidia website and use the GTX560M's OC as a reference, the GTX670M is about a GTX560M OC'd to Core clock 1046MHz/Memory clock 1500MHz, GTX660M is about a GTX560M OC'd to Core clock 950MHz/Memory clock 1334MHz. As a result, GTX670M is about 35% more powerful than the GTX560M and GTX660M is about 22% more powerful than the GX560M (Not considering the memory clock).
     
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    So it`s only 13% increase. And kepler drivers, heat and noise will be worth taking 660 ?
     
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    I have been on the fence trying to decide what to replace my 7811fx 9800m with something new. I was going to go with one of the new g75 but I now I’m not sure if 660m is worth jumping to the newest thing out. Going with a g74 on sale/refirbished or go with MSI barebones which I’m not sure how build quality is. Is the price worth it?
     
  35. Yiddo

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    Clevo/Sager. The 560M being only an overclocked 460M is not worth the jump no. You want to look at high end 6990M/580M if you do not intend to go for the refresh.
     
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    Nice video there thanks, it will be a great laptop, considering samsung is one of the best screen producers and if they include the integrated ssd memory for shorter booting times it will be a clear winner for me, unless clevo/sager releases the gtx 680m first.
     
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    That Samsung is pretty nice...what's the release date on it?
     
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    I really wish it could come out sometime this month, but without a doubt, this will be the laptop I am getting. Although it doesn't have a SSD like the ASUS, it does have a superbright 400nit screen and at least an option for 3D. 1.5 TB of storage, and a GTX 675m to my knowledge.
     
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    I'm quite interested in the GTX660M myself but I'm gonna wait for GTX680M, so my next laptop will not be ASUS lol.
     
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    That link says 1799.00, seems a bit much for what you get.
     
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    That outfit looks like a G74SX.
     
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    that's for sure, i really want to get an asus, but i need something seriously powerful, the first one i got was the g50vt with the 9800m gs, now i have the g73sw with a 460m, i'm tired of purchasing a laptop every year, i hope the gtx 680m can last for 3 years at least.
     
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    I think they have their SKUs confused.
     
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    It. Does. Not. Exist. Their specs are *wrong*. There is no such thing as a 192bit 660m, as has been proven in this thread already. Nvidia has the specs up for the 660m, it is 128bit 2GB GDDR5.

    Edit: It also starts @ 1799 and weights 8.6 pounds according to that website...
     
  48. Yiddo

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    You are all deciding what does and does not exist before it is even released.

    Do not forget the 540M that I have sitting in my M11X R3 can come in 128bit version of 1GB or 2GB the bus width makes no difference when the graphics card is built onto the board itself. Asus always choose to engineer their own cards as well making the official Nvidia information obselete because Asus just change the specs.

    Asus saw a great deal of profit by coughing out rubbish that 3GB was better than 1.5GB on the 5 series so why would they not try the same marketing ploy?
     
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    Because it's technically impossible to have 3GB on a 128bit bus.

    (Well, not impossible, but totally impractical and unfeasible.)
     
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    Has it been confirmed that the Asus G75 will have the GPU soldered onto the Motherboard?
    If that's the case then I wont buy it. I want a laptop which I can change the GPU after about 2 years when it gets weak compared to other GPUs in the Market
     
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