Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

From this, it look like the Asus G75 $1889, just $10 cheaper.....

 

That G75 comes with either a 256GB SSD or a 3D display, neither of which the Samsung Series 7 Gamer has. The regular G75 is $1600, large difference.

 

Hey question, I was wondering how other gaming laptops compared to ASUS? Not spec wise but design wise. I have a G73 right now but I want to upgrade to the G75, but it is kind of more expensive then the previous releases.

So how do other computers compare? ASUS has a really good heating system, right? And I like the feel of my G73, the keyboard keys have to be pressed down some what harder to get them to actually respond but I'm used to it. I just don't know how MSI, Clevo, etc. are all designed. Are their heating systems good or do I need a lap fan thing? How is the design? Do they have fans in the back as well because I really like how ASUS doesn't heat up when its on my lap which is how I always use it. I never use a table.

Thank you so much for the help!!

 

My buddy has the MSI 783 and it has a pretty stellar cooling system, the Clevo's have the best cooling system of the bunch to be entirely honest with you, Asus is close behind, I'd say in all honesty that you aren't going to have heating issues with an Alienware/Asus/MSI/Clevo machine.

 

That Samsung will be ideal to boil eggs with.

 

based on what?

 

It really depends on your budget and the types of games you will be playing. GTX670 performs between GTX580M and GTX570M and if you think GTX670M is worth $200~$300 extra.

They did, the Asus mail-in rebate was ended on March 31st and they don't have much G74SX left so I don't think so.

 

Is this legit? If it is, that would mean two different GPU version of the G75, one of which being a 192-bit GTX660m.

 

Who need 3D on laptop? It's waste of money in my opinnion.I don't need bluray on laptop.
I don't remmember when last time I watch dvd on my laptop and don't remmember when I use dvd drive last time.

For me the question is how this G75 will compare to my G73SW.It is still good laptop but it is worth it to upgrade to G75?
It will be big improve in games? If it's just 5fps more in games than it is not worth it.What You think people?

 

No DisplayPort means no chance to hook up to external 120 Hz screen. Sigh.

 

Who asks for your opinion? Different people have different needs.

There's a big difference between 20->25 fps and 100->105 fps.
There are no benchmarks yet, so the exact performance increase is unknown, but it should be around the same as a i7-2820qm + GTX 570m.

 

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Good thing he only spoke on behalf of himself then. I happen to agree with the sentiment and think that 3D (in the current implementation at least) is vastly overrated.

 

There is nothing certain yet, and no laptops have been released, so take my comments with a grain of salt. I have tested Sager 8131 and a MSI 683, also own a G73JW, and all are fine laptops, neither need a cooler all can cool them selves on their own. But you do have to see where they draw the air, to what i saw when i played with Sager n MSI, both draw the air from the bottom, the G73 to what i remember from the adds, kinda draw from the keyboard.... so for how you use your laptop.... might be better to wait and see if Asus is maintaining that design for G75, i personally wouldnt use the GT683 or 8131 on my lap.

 

That's wrong, at least for the MSI notebooks, they suck/draw the air in from the side vent and then draw it to the back, not from the bottom which was really a benefit for those who wanted to use them on their knees.

 

Correct.

The 660m SKU is a direct technical replacement of the G74SX.

The 670m SKU is a brand new upgraded SKU in order to meet the complaints people had about the G74SX series

 

3D is fun for some people that are into it.. the main thing is the 120hz screen, which is great all around.

 

So is the 660m SKU 2GB or 3GB? I've seen conflicting reports.

 

Wait, what? He was talking about 660m 3GB version being 192-bit, not 670...

 

That's just it, it was a typo on at least one of the spots. There is no 660m 3GB 192bit. There is a 670m 3GB 192bit, and a 660m 2GB 128bit.

To the person who posted there was no DP port, Thunderbolt doubles as Displayport.

 

How have you confirmed that there's no GTX 660M with 3GB of RAM?

 

AnandTech - NVIDIA's GeForce 600M Series: Mobile Kepler and Fermi Die Shrinks

Look at the specs for the 660m, 128 bit, up to 2GB GDDR5. There isn't anything for them to cut down to get 192 bit.

Edit: Further proof.. http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gtx-660m/specifications

 

So.. I don't suppose anyone happens to know whether the 670M comes with the new TXAA anti-aliasing feature, do they? I'm assuming the 660M will, seeing as it's a Kepler.. but what about the 670M or 675M?

I've been following this thread since shortly after it was started.. As more details are coming out, I'm becoming kind of torn between the possible options. Don't get me wrong, I like more options, but with so few details out, it's kind of dizzying to weigh the potential pros and cons. I'd like to get a G75 soon after release, my old laptop has been dead for months and I'm getting impatient.. (Not good!)

Also, is it likely custom laptop sites like XoticPC or GenTech will offer multiple Ivy Bridge CPU upgrade options from the get-go?

Edit: Here's what has me concerned.. (from Nvidia's website):
"With Kepler, NVIDIA has invented an even higher quality AA mode called TXAA that is designed for direct integration into game engines. TXAA combines the raw power of MSAA with sophisticated resolve filters similar to those employed in CG films. In addition, TXAA can also jitter sample locations between frames for even higher quality."

It sounds like a hardware feature (specific to Kepler). Moreover concerning still is that while it's listed on the desktop 680's product features page, it doesn't even show up on the 660M's features.. If the 660M doesn't even have it, tho, I guess it'd be irrelevant to G75/55.

 

After some searching, i found German company Deviltech, which makes quite powerful and cheap(and really plastic ) DTR laptops, and this fragbook
DevilTech - High Performance Systems - _Fragbook #
comes with 670M, but it can be upgraded to 675M just for 59€, thats about 78$. so that maybe is the price difference, between 20% of GPU performance.
And i would pay, sice the GPU in g75 will be the main part lacking in power for future games.

 

There might be a 3GB 660M somewhere (as it's up to the board partners to set the ram) But the ASUS doesn't have it.

I just received confirmation spreadsheet that the 660M will only be in 2GB for the ASUS SKUs

I sent a email to my NVIDIA account rep to verify if the 660m will come in 192bit flavors.

 

Unless its driver based, i doubt you will see any of the new 6XX feature set on the rebadge cards.

 

The 640M, 650M, 660M, and 680M all have TXAA enabled.

 

That site seems rly nice. Powerful, customizible laptops to a good price. Anyone have experience with them?

 

The Deviltech laptop in the link is a MSI barebone.

 

yup,MSI
I configure one to the spec of same MSI in my coutry and it 200$ cheaper
but I never heard about this company

 

They are really popular in Germany. That's about it.

 

Na, I wouldn't say popular. They are known and one of many other PC builders and resellers in Germany like Hawkforce, mySN, Guru or Medion (now owned by Lenovo).
Remember, some of them are just small "one-man" companies, which build custom notebooks based on famous barebones.

 

@Kevin: Thanks for the reply.

So then my question is whether TXAA, along with the other Kepler features (like lower wattage and thus temps) might be worth it enough in the long haul to put a 660M in the G75 instead of a 670M. A couple hundred bucks would be worth it to me to upgrade to 670 if its really better, and I'd like to pimp out my G75... But if the 660 has features that the 670 doesn't which will be more useful in 2-3 years, what wud be the point?

 

I really want to see some benchmarks on the GTX 675m. And is there any other news of other gaming laptops coming out? Samsung, Alienware, MSI?

 

It's a GTX580m rebranded. Just like the 570 -> 670, nothing has changed.

 

yes,new 675=580

 

From Facebook. Really smart design

 

These are the filters? It's just a mesh

 

Think they are between the back panel and the mesh. Also on a side note we can now say GPU is soldered

 

Now we just need someone to confirm dual HDD bays in the G55VW and I'll be happy!

 

Looks to me like it's raised a bit, like a huge non-MXM-compliant card.

 

Sarge look at the black heatsink....the mem. chips is spread out like on the G74. It is soldered on the motherboard. Its not a non MXM nor a MXM it its built into the mobo.

So lucky to own a G73JH

 

So can someone break it down for me? I keep hearing rebranded rebranded etc, is that good or bad? Is it the exact same technology but a new name?

Which of the 600 series cards is going to be the low wattage 28nm ?

 

Search is a wonderful tool, 28nm = Keplar = 640/650/660/680m's. The GPU in the G75/G55 is the 660m.

 

I thought there was evidence that the GPU in the G75 would be the 675m which is a renamed 580m? (Thus not the new 28nm tech, but still awesome)

 

Rebrand=Bad




1/2 of the lineup are the same parts as the old lineup. One a select few are new technology.

Basically, the 640/650/660/680 Are new.

 

Perfect answer, thanks

 

Whuuuuuuuuuut? Only a 660M? I was possibly hoping for a 670M in it, just for the performance boost (still better than 660M, if they would only give 660M a 192-bit bus) and Optimus.

Guess it's P150EM for me. The Asus laptops look sexy, though.

 

If the 675 is a rebrand wouldn't you want the new tech ones? And what is Optimus?

 

Optimus lowers performance and can be a driver nightmare, the 660m should in theory outperform the 670m after some driver improvements, keplar is more gaming focused than fermi was.