Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

Not 100% shure but I don`t think G55 or G75 will have Optimus, because Asus have never had it nor is it mentioned anywhere that they plan to.The reason you see GTX 660M as Optimus @ Nvidias homepage, its because the GPU supports it, but OEMs (like Asus) need to enable it first for it to work.

Have no idea about the warranty. If Amazon says 1 year then its 1 year. Perhaps you can find better warranty elsewhere

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NyQu6DATak

Wow, some good news. He said it would be available the end of this month. Very nice laptop and if what he said was true(max setting on BF3 with no lag), then that is awesome.

 

Yeah that's not happening, maybe at 1024x768. AnandTech - Bench - GPU12 this is why that is a bunch of baloney.

 

Maybe somewhere right above 30 fps. BF3 really takes advantage of the 3GB of VRAM. Other models of the MSI with the GTX 580 got extremely high 3D Mark and Futuremark scores.

 

Well, G55/G75 have 2GB VRAM. I wouldn't consider 30 fps to be 'fluid' or 'playable' honestly, I have a radeon 4890 and even on low @ 50-60fps it's not 'fluid'.

 

Depends some on personal preference also. MSI has 4 GT70 models listed on their website. When do you think retailers will start listing them on their websites?

 

Probably mid-late April, with launches early may.

 

Yea but after Haswell is just a 'tock' just like Ivy bridge is just a 'tock'.

 

Ivy is a tick+, Haswell is the tock, and Broadwell is the 14nm 'tick' after Haswell

 

Yeah that's what I meant. I have to remember what sounds louder and not what comes first.

 

Tick comes before Tock.

 

Just found this... Sears: Asus G55VW
It's from a more reputable seller. I'd love that to be actual price.

 

£900 release price in the UK keep dreaming fella! The G53SX and G74SX over here were released at double that for the full model at £1699.99 and they are still selling over here for £1300.

 

Yeah >.> I don't understand why the put they prices up now if that's not going to be the actually selling price Oh well
EDIT: What about these prices? I think these are probably more realistic. Think I saw these a few pages back but here they are again

Asus G55
G55VW-DS71 -- G55VWDS71 CI7/2.3 15.6 12GB 750GB DVDR W7HP 64
Price: $1,514.91

G55VW-RS71 -- G55VWRS71 CI7/2.3 15.6 8GB 750GB DVDR W7HP 64
Price: $1,363.31

Asus G75
G75VW-DS71 G75VWDS71 CI7/2.3 17.3 12GB 1.5TB BDC W7HP 64
Price: $1,818.09

G75VW-DS72 G75VW-DS72 I7 2.3G 16GB 750GB DVDRW 17.3IN BT W7P
Price: $2,121.28

G75VW-DS73-3D G75VW-DS73-3D I7 2.3G 12GB 1.5TB DVDRW 17.3IN BT W7P
Price: $2,121.28

G75VW-RS72 G75VWRS72 CI7/2.3 17.3 12GB 750GB DVDR W7HP 64
Price: $1,514.91

 

They sound ok so just convert it to £ and then add 20% for our sickening V.A.T and then round it off to the next 100 and you should get the UK price we get burned!

 

Hi guys, I'm a new member here so please be kind lol

I recently bought ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71 from Amazon for $1399.99, I quickly returned it after hearing that ASUS ROG G75 was going to be released soon. I have 3 questions

1. Amazon.com: ASUS G G75VW-AS71 17.3-Inch Laptop (Black): Computers & Accessories Amazon (and other pre order websites) are planning to sell this model for $1450 (Last listed priced, got info from rep). Is that a good price for it? I saw some different prices few pages back on this thread. Seems like a huge price difference from the pirce listed few pages back.

2. I though all G75 series were going to use Nvidia 670M vcards, not 660M vcards. Is this Amazon listing wrong?

3. IF Amazon does sell it for $1450 with that spec, is that a good deal?

I heard Sager and MSI already have some laptops with 6** series vcards. Any recommendations? I'm sick of waiting. My budget is $1500 max. Will be using it for Web design, Photoshop, and Smooth Battlefield 3 play =)

Thanks for your help in advance guys!

 

I also am going to use mine for school + photoshop + web design + BF3, and D3 when its out.

$1450 for the ROG is a good deal; but there are some better [if you have your own OS or prefer this build].

To answer your question the P150em and P151em are good and priced very similarly; the P150em is about $150 more and has a backlit keyboard with custom colors and a nicer rubberized finish compared to the P151em's plastic finish and chiclet keyboard which is still pretty nice [i had the older model of it].

For Right around $1500 you could get the P150em with GTX 675m, 8GB ram, i7 2670, and 750GB hybrid w/ 8GB SSD. This is with DDR3 1333mhz RAM and no OS.

If you pay with cash discount [wire transfer or in person] you save $45 or so on the $1500 rig, with tax + that discount it should be $1520 or right about there.

You could get the P151em with GTX 670m and 128GB SSD + 750GB 7200rpm HDD, i7 2670, 8GB DDR3 1333mhz RAM all for $100 less though; about $1400 with cash discount + tax. [this is my favorite build so far but I want to wait for Ivy Bridge...]

If you already have a Win 7 copy [or linux or w.e.] then it's a great buy.

But keep in mind new Ivy Bridge processors come out on April 29th and are supposed to be the same price or only slightly more than the current 2nd gen i7 quad cores called Sandy Bridge. Supposedly Ivy Bridge [the 3rd gen core i7 quad cores coming out April 29] processors will consume less power [15-20% is what people are saying] and generate less heat, and perform 10-20% better. They are worth waiting for if you are a gamer/enthusiast in my opinion.

Hope this helps

 

Yeah it helped me a lot thank you. I guess we're looking for the same spec laptops. I will definitely wait for the new processor. Sadly, I do not have a Window OS, nor photoshop haha.

I guess it all comes down to what kind of graphics card I want: 660M 670M 675M or 580M (I think I listed them low-high order, please correct me if I'm wrong) 580M beats all the new 600M's, right?

There is no benchmark for 660M, right? I'm using NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660M - Notebookcheck.net Tech for my comparison source. I wonder how decent the new 660M card will be. Even though I really want 675M or 580M... choices... sigh

Also what website were you looking at to get your price? Is it Malibal? Xoticpc?

 

675m is the same as 580m, slightly higher clock though, and it has optimus which turns the card on when graphics intensive programs run and off otherwise. I think prostar is good they have good prices.

 

Yeah I think I will customize my laptop to get at least 670M or 675M. I checked out Prostar, do they have good customer service? I normally buy laptops from Amazon because they have such good return policy/customer service. Spending extra $150-$200 is worth it from 560M to 675M, right?

Also, I dont need more than 8GB RAM, right? 16GB RAM is overkill?

 

8gb is all you need. And yes its worth it, the 675 is roughly 30-35 percent more powerful and will allow for gaming on ultra for pretty much anything, the 560 will usually run games on high which isn't bad. The gtx 670 is also pretty good if you are on a budget. Its roughly 15-20 percent better than the 560

 

xotic pc

Sager 9150

i7
8gb ram
675M
500gb HD (i wouldn't spend an extra $115 on a hybrid drive...just not worth it.)

$1449 w/500gb HD

 

You say you wouldn't spend an extra $115 on the hybrid drive; have you used the hybrid drive???

It is at least 5 times faster at loading the OS boot time and opening photoshop/BF3, games, etc. I owned one for a month and it was actually very quick and I loved it.

Or you could spend $120 on a 90-120GB SSD, and then get a 500GB drive for around $100, which is a decent combo also.

Also the price for the Hybrid drive has gone down.

Newegg has it on sale for $145, the re sellers are all selling it for $200 still which is the price when it first came out [because thats probably when they ordered them all].

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148837

Read the reviews; people love them and get great performance; also google some benchmarks, it is MUCH MUCH better than a stock 7200 RPM drive; I would get Photoshop to load in 1.5-2 seconds; Windows to boot in 10-13 seconds; Skyrim games would loud in 5-10 seconds instead of 10-15.

It helps significantly. I noticed within the first hour that it was more than double the speed of my old 7200rpm 32mb cache drive. Just have the re seller remove the hard drive; buy one for $145, and put it in yourself [its very easy].

 

ASUS G74 (I used to own) had a slot compartment for SSD upgrade I think. Do either of these Sager or P150 offer this? After I buy it from them I wanted to install a faster drive. Or is it cheaper through them?

I'm dead set on GTX675M

Whats the big difference with 15.6 and 17in? I noticed 17in is $40 more expensive. I'm used to gaming on my 27in desktop, so I think 15in is little too small for me? Can you tell me the pros and con between 15 & 17? I dont really mind the size to carry etc.

So on April 29, Exotic/Prostar should have the new version of processor ready to be ordered right?

 

Also micahmatthew, lol I appreciate all your inputs. I def need faster HD since I open tons of JPEG/photoshop pictures. Having a faster HD will help open/view them faster right? Which is faster? Hybrid HD or SSD? I guess I'm going all out on this computer LOL

 

They should have them on April 29th you are correct. And you can just plug in your 15.6" into your 27" monitor when you are home; thats what I do with my 24" and 32" monitors. The 17 inch is heavier and bulkier, besides that it's exactly the same as the P150em. Design, keyboard, hardware, everything is the same.

 

I am aware of the pro's and con's of HD vs Hybrid vs SSD... the fact is $115 is to much in MY opinion when for $165 you can get a 60gb intel 520 ssd and a 500gb HD. Hybrids are a good bridge between traditional HD's and SSD's only if the price is right.

 

That is a good price if true but the only place I've seen the g75 listed with an actual price is the official Microsoft store. The link is a few pages back and the price is $1799.

 

Very much so until Hybrids drop in price it is not worth it.

SSD is the way to go in my opinion unless you need the space but as most have 2 SATA ports and can have the best of both worlds as mentioned above. Hybrids are an alternative option but I would not deem that they sit between the two as an SSD can run everything at maximum speed all the time wereas a hybrid will only make use of what it deems you use the most.

The newer 8GB NaNd drives do a better job of matching the two together but when you look at the price and then compare the speeds you would be better off going SSD and picking up a cheap mechanical drive.

 

I decided to go with 17.3 in Sager NP9170 / Clevo P170EM - XOTIC PC - Sager Custom Gaming Laptop on April 29th when the new processor is out.

Only changes I'm going to make from default is
-Upgrade to GTX 675M ($100+)
-Upgrade to 12GB RAM DDR3 1600MHz ($40+)
-OS Windows 7 Home Home premium ($80+)

I decided to upgrade SSD later when it gets cheaper. They said this laptop comes with a second HD compartment for future upgrade.

Do you any recommend or see a flaw in this build? Any help would be appreciated, thank you!

 

Here is 9170 thread http://forum.notebookreview.com/sag...levo-p170em-sager-np9170-owners-lounge-6.html

 

Just review of new clevo, Review Schenker XMG P502 PRO (Clevo P150EM) Notebook - Notebookcheck.net Reviews
With 675M, wich is very hot, very loud and eats tons of wats,
So I guess 670M will do the same.
I'll go with new kepler 660M.

Think twice about top range nvidia fermi GPU. For no regrets after getting such laptop

 

I saw that as well. Honestly think I will just hold off a bit getting a new laptop and see how these new ones pan out and let them work the bugs out. My g74 works awesome and plays everything so no rush I suppose.

 

That's a good build but I'd probably get a GTX 670m, and then later on upgrade to the GTX 680m [it will be kepler and run much cooler than the GTX 675m most likely].

Sell the GTX 670m in the future for cheap and cover some of the cost of the GTX 680m, I'm sure it will cost $400-600; possibly more, as the GTX 580m costed around $700 O_O.

The GTX 670m should be just fine for your needs though, it is quite powerful. Diablo 3 will be no problem at all.

Also yeah; getting a 60GB or 128GB SSD for around $120-140 and then buying a cheap 80-100$ 500GB 7200RPM drive is also a good solution ad only slightly more expensive than the $145 hybrid drive. [about 40% more expensive, but it's significantly faster when you have everything on the SSD].

SSD's are much faster than Hybrid drives, the hybrid drive just saves your most used applications/files on the 8GB built in SSD and swaps them out according to the amount you use those files, so some files perform at near SSD speeds [your most used like Photoshop/windows/D3]. But if you want your Photoshop files to open fast etc. and you do graphic design, you'll want to store PS and the save files on the SSD and they will load much much faster than a normal HDD

 

Thanks for the review. When I was using my ASUS Republic of Gamers G74SX-AH71, (using 560M) I didnt have any problem with heating. One think I dislike was when I was playing Battlefield 3, I had to play on Med or Low High setting.

This is the main reason why I wanted to upgrade from 560M to 660M or 670M or 675M.

1. I wonder if 660M will suffer from the same problem I had with 560M. (Not playable on High/Ultra)
2. From the research, 670M and 675M should have no problem running Battlefield 3 on High/Ultra but it has a crazy heat problem?

There's no review or benchmark for the 660M so I can't really compare how much better 670M or 675M are.

Suggestion? I would wait up to end of April with $1500 to spend.

 

670M is about 13% more powerfull than 660M and 35% slower than 675M, so BF3, Witcher 2, Alan wake, Anno 2070 and Metro 2033 will not be running at ultra ( without overclock )
But asus G-series cooling is the best market can offer, so 660M will definitely be quite and cold as ice. I`m not sure about 670M thought

those % are based by similar GPU`s so i can be wrong, but if u have G74 it`s really not worth your money, bcs performance will not be so big. Don`t do what asus wants you to do - buy a new expensive laptop every year. that`s my opinion.

 

The new 660M is 28nm Kepler and 670M and 675M are not. Is this new technology that much better? If 660M cannot deliver performance I rather stick with 675M. I need my Battlefield 3 on High at least.

560M to 660M has a small small improvement, right?

 

Does any have experiences with both Sager and Asus G series notebooks noise and temperature differences? I trying to figure out if it is worth sacrificing performance for Asus' superior cooling.

 

I dont see how you can ever sacrifice performance for noise in a gaming laptop when you are forking out your hard earned cash for it to last you as long as possible. I do not see the problem anyway the fans on my clevo are drowned out by my 5.1 surround system that is built into it along with the headphones I wear at night the rest of the time both fans switch off.

Asus have always been known for very quiet cooling but that is also because of the card being half the bus width and half the performance of its high end counterparts. It really depends if you can settle for medium to high at 1080p in top end games for low fan noise.

 

Yeah, normally I would go straight to the system with the better performance. However, I had such a horrible experience with my previous laptop overheating, which makes the idea of a cool and quiet machine very enticing (as long as I can still play games at a medium setting).

 

Yeah Asus G-series have always had the best cooling and is known for its quiet operations.

We have to wait for reviews to put a definitive ending to the speculations, but 670M is 5W more than the 560M which the previous G-series had. But I have seen that the G55 and G75 is now a lot thinner than G74 which could give less headroom for the heat so who knows what will happen in terms of noise.

But I can assure you that 660M runs much cooler than 560M, since 560M is 75W and 660M is 40-45W. Which is why this thinner design will have no problem featuring it. 670M on the other hand, like I said, who knows...

About the 675M featured in P150EM, it is 100W, so its hotter than the 670M.

 

How much thinner is it supposed to be? The last one was like 1.8 inches right?

 

670M maybe 15-20% slower than 675M, not 35%.

 

Comparison with G74:

 

GTX675M is about 18.5% quicker than the GTX670M if you only just look at the Texture Fill Rate. If you use GTX560M (24.8 billion/s) as a reference:

GTX675M (39.7 billion/s) = 60% quicker than GTX560M
GTX670M (33.5 billion/s) = 35% quicker than GTX560M
GTX660M (30.4 billion/s) = 22.5% quicker than GTX560M

But again this % is only based on its GPU not considering the memory bandwidth.

 

All I see are two headphone jacks, ( headphone sign on top of both) they will have a microphone imput definitely right??

 

Okay I decided. Sticking with getting GTX 675M if the upgrade from GTX 560M is about 60% better. Of course on April 29 after the new processor.

I decided to go with http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9170-clevo-p170em-p-4342.html on April 29th when the new processor is out.

Only changes I'm going to make from default is
-Upgrade to GTX 675M ($100+)
-Upgrade to 12GB RAM DDR3 1600MHz ($40+)
-OS Windows 7 Home Home premium ($80+)

Comes around to be $1500... I wonder if theres any other place thats cheaper with same spec.

 

Probably a double port.

 

Extra memory is kind of waste, unless you are absolutely sure you will need that much.
As for the price, all resellers are about the same +/- couple $. For the best deal, I'd contact them all and check for the lowest price on your config - some may be willing to give you larger discount than others.

 

What are some reliable websites for high end gaming laptops?

I only know Xoticpc, and Pro-Star. (Cant buy from Pro-star since I'm a California Resident, meaning I have to pay tax). Thanks in advance