Asus ROG G55 & G75 in April with gtx 670m

I personally don't know why anyone would get a laptop as a desktop replacement and never move it. That's absolutely insane. It might be heavy and not easy to put on top of your lap, but I would assume that they would move it from desk to desk.



The goal of motion pictures is not to recreate reality, it's not even to show reality. I want to create a little psychic link between you and my pictures. I want to suck you into the world of the story, suspend your disbelief and make you forget about yourself and your life and just be in the moment of the film.

By not showing enough visual information, we force the brain into filling in the gaps... it draws you in even more. It's part of how you let go to the point where you can laugh or cry or feel tense or afraid or elated.

Naim Sutherland

Your eyes can't tell a difference between 30 frames per second and 60 frames per second, but your brain can. Is based on what you like. Whether you can tell a difference between 30 and 60 is besides you. 30 and above is playable.

 

What...

AMO.NET America's Multimedia Online (Human Eye Frames Per Second)

 

Value is all relative. For some people like me, spending $3-$4k on a big machine is not a big deal because we want something that is high performance and will last. Yeah.. its not quote a mobile as most things, but you can still take it with you when you really want to. I wont take it with me every day, i have a 15" probook for that.

And.. you can buy portable AND powerful too. In the $2K+ range you can get a 15" clevo with a 580M in it, or a Razer Blade too.. The MX14 isnt anything to sneeze at either.. The Macbook Pro is quite portable and expensive too. Its not all BIG Machines.

 

Sorry, let me clarify. You can tell a difference between 30 fps and 60 fps. Your eyes can't theoretically, but your brain fills in the gaps; making you able to tell a difference. Anything over 60 is not noticeable. The voltage for the US range in 100-240 volts. The 2 common frequencies are 50 Hz and 60Hz(US).

 

Most CRT's ran at 75hz, and LCD's give people used to CRT's a headache. 120hz LCD's feel smoother when you're playing games above 60 fps.

 

TV's advertise as being 120, 240, even 480Hz. They all operate on 60Hz requencies but the "processors" in the tv scale to said Hz by placing images between each frame. Creating a smoother and more enjoyable experience.

 

When did I say TV's? I said LCD's, I was referring to monitors that run real 120hz displays.

The Razer Blade is a joke, and the MBP17 is priced out of the realm of reasonability. The problem is that once you start getting up over 2k the ROI drops massively. The difference between a 2670QM and a 2970 compared to the difference in price makes it a really bad purchase. (Obvious). Just like getting a 580m over a 6990m, the 6990m is cheaper and virtually just as fast. M14x doesn't even get close to 2k configured reasonably, and the last time I configured a high powered clevo 15" it was $1500, the matte 95% screen, the 2670QM, the 6990m.

 

For those of you who think that the human eye can't tell the difference between 60 FPS and 24 FPS or even 30 FPS, I would have to disagree. This misconception probably arises from people trying to compare the frame rate in TV shows or movies to the frame rate in games or from people trying to justify lower frame rates on slower computers. The fact is most movies and TV shows use motion blur to make a lower frame rate seem smoother than a higher frame rate in a PC game, although many games are now starting to incorporate motion blur as well. Even with motion blur, many games still have distinct aliasing or "jaggies" which can also reduce the perception of smoothness.

Even if some people can't visually discern between 30 FPS and 60 FPS (although it has been proven that humans can), the most noticeable impact of a lower frame rate in a PC game is reduced control responsiveness. In movies or TV, you are not in control of the camera, but in games you are. Just ask anybody who has played a very fast-paced and twitchy shooter competitively such as Quake, Counter-Strike, or even Call of Duty and they can tell you that a higher frame rate really makes a difference in reaction times and aiming. Since you have dynamic control of the camera in these fast moving games, a discerning player will notice a general choppiness and lack of responsiveness even at 30 FPS. That's why most (if not all) players of these games try to play at the highest frame rate possible.

 

questions, metal chassis? or plastic like g74sx? if its all plastic like the old one, not that interested.

 

Maybe both metal and plastic...

 

this is quite important to me lol, as the keyboard feels really cheap, this laptop need to be sturdy as possible..

 

You are right, the ROI on some parts are greater than others, thats why i went with 6990Ms.

We must be shopping for different reasons/things. When i spec'd a Clevo 15" out, it was $2500.. But i opted for BD and a Sizable SSD as well. Same with the M14X, the i7, 8gb, 3gb 555 and 256gb SSD put it right around 2K.

But, you are happy with a non SSD, sure you can knock 3-500 off of the price.. Same if you dont mind the drop in performance there. For me, an SSD is essential and the ROI is finally where it starts to be worth the added expense.

 

You might want to take a look at the new MSI G-series notebooks then. I think they have an aluminum chassis.

 

Cebit is tomorrow, and people have already started posting videos on YouTube of all the new stuff. How close are we to a release date for the G75?

 

Seems like it's true... I never liked MSI because of their plastic chassi... but this is rly nice
MSI GT70 Gaming-Notebook at Cebit 2012 - YouTube

 

Release date should depend on when Intel and Nvidia decides to release their new stuff... rumors says that Intel will postpone their Ivy-bridge till summer

 

Gigabyte unveils U2442 ultrabooks and P2542G gaming laptop at CeBIT -- Engadget

Im pretty sure that Ivy Bridge is confirmed. Not delayed-only desktop versions.
I'm so excited.

 

msi GT70 easily beats it..

 

Those new MSI laptops have some insane price tags associated with them, hopefully they have some models within the realm of reality.

 

Thats probably the European + VAT price. The US Price could be 1/3rd Less.

 

They're also incredibly ugly.

 

So, we cannot expect any news from the new G series from CeBIT?

 

Possible.. Show is still young.

 

No, asus announced that they arent going to be attending cebit

 

I think they look sexy, but appearance is just a matter of personal preference. At the end of the day the things that are going to sell me a gaming notebook are the components and the price. The current MSI notebooks already have a better keyboard than the ASUS G74 as well as the fastest mobile GPU, not to mention offering better overall components for the money. If you go with MSI at least you are always guaranteed the fastest mobile graphics of the current generation.

 

There's always the new Clevo. The P150EM/P170EM have backlit keyboard and optimus to go along with the 95% gamut matte screens, 670/675m, not a bad choice at all.

 

Nvidia GTX 680 final specs rumoured

Wow, this is exciting.

And at this point, I just pooped in my pants...

Kepler 256-bit, faster in DX11 games than 7970

The fastest by the second half of MARCH?

 

670m/675m are confirmed rebrands by a Clevo reseller.

Edit:

 

This is for desktops.... seems nvidia is going to release a good GPU there, but on mobile side seems rebrands,

GTX560m --> GTX660m
GTX570m --> GTX670m
GTX580m --> GTX675m

What im hopping to be a real kepler 28nm is the GTX680m if its released at some point down the road... then again this are just hopes. But i dont blame nvidia atm, AMD is not pushing mobile either.... maybe in Q3.... who knows.

 

Why won't Asus or one of these companies release even an AMD 77** class based mobile GPU? With the energy and thermals of those parts they are begging to be put in laptops!

 

Thats an easy one..... Profit from rebrands before they acutally give a new GPU. Also to sell older models.

 

My primary concern is availability.

Based on the things i'm hearing there's going to be a VERY small initial stock at release.

I hope this won't be a repeat issue of G74 series. (Stock didn't stabilize until 2-3months after release)

 

At the way things are going, i wouldn't count on anything available till summer.

 

The G55 i assume is gonna be the 15 inch model and according to reviews from the CES 2012 it's gonna weight 8.4 lbs. Does anyone think that's pretty heavy for a laptop that size? I have a g74sx-A1 and it weights about 11 lbs. I am looking for something ligher and now selling this laptop.

 

Any gaming laptop is going to be heavy, it is the price to pay for decent cooling.

 

of course but i still find the Asus laptops a bit too heavy. The current M14X by alienware is 6.5 pounds or less if you choose to get an SSD, they are also expected to be bringing a new redesign this year. I am just hoping that the G55 is something i can take to and from school, if not i'll have to settle with alienware.

 

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LOL. I'm guessing that thing is well north of 10 pounds. For my G73JH, the weight doesn't bother me so much as the terrible battery life. I'd be lucky to get over an hour on the battery-saving power profile while doing general productivity and Web surfing. I hate having to lug around the heavy power brick if I want to use my laptop for any extended period of time.

If they ever come up with a decent gaming laptop that can give 2+ hours of general use and 1+ hour of gaming on a full charge, I'd snap it up in a heartbeat.

 

my G74SX-A1 by Republic of Gamers weighs 11 lbs.

 

That's why I'm looking at the P150EM from Clevo. 580m (rebranded as the 675m), Optimus (long battery life general use), and they claim 180 minutes on the Nvidia card. Should grant you all the necessary parts for you, 3.1Kg ODD+Battery (8.15 pounds).

I originally had a G53SW and I loved it, and was patiently waiting for the G55, but now that I saw the 660m rebrand I'm displeased with it, and the GT60's price is out of contention. P150EM it is.

 

The M14x has worse hardware though. Not sure about cooling but sounds like it's not on par with the G74 nor Dell's better notebooks.

 

Not hard to believe. I held one in my hands at Best Buy and the thing was just massive. Hard to believe anything could be bigger than a G73 yet here it is.

The current one comes with an Nvidia GT 555M I think which is a bit worse than the GTX 560M in the G74. But I'm speculating that the new M14X will at least have the option of an equivalent GTX 660M.

 

Don't let the naming fool you, it's around 50% worse.

 

Yeah I know that. Talk about misleading product names.

 

The machine is 12lbs.. which isnt unmanageable. The only qualm i have is the 330watt power brick.. Its large as 3-DVD Cases stacked, weights about 4lbs.. and all of the wires are THICK gauge cable. So its a mess to deal with.

 

I think clock speeds will be the big deciding factor. Ivy Bridge is mostly the same design again, but Intel could release it at faster clock speeds since it should (probably) draw less power (unless something's gone wrong like what happened with the 90nm process).

 

Ivy Bridge has reduced heat production and power draw. Benchmarks are showing a very minor increase in performance compared to Sandy Bridge

I think the decision to go with Ivy bridge was due to it's support of PCI-E 3.0 and it's mobile variants.

 

Does anyone have any news about the G75? We're well into CeBIT now, and the only Asus products there were tablets and netbooks. Release date? Pricing? Avaliability? Hardware? We know that Kepler will be powerful-a demo at GDC showed it playing the Unreal Engine 3 Samaritan with a single card. When it was first showed, it required 3 GTX 580's.

 

330W power brick?!? 4 pounds?!? I guess that's the price you pay for desktop power in a laptop.

 

It's not all about speed... Reducing heat (and therefore noise) are also real steps forward.