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    Asus ROG G551

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 4, 2014.

  1. Ramzay

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    Well, if you're ok with getting the GTX 850m then go ahead, but otherwise I wouldn't get it. Less performance for the same price as the others.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 26, 2014
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    ^ Avoid the 850M DDR3 model, better off with either the Y50 or the GE60 with the 860M in it.
     
    Any_Key, Jun 26, 2014
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    Well, i thought that the ips screen and build quality would be an advantage for the g550 over the others. But, as i can see, the gtx 860m would be a better investment than the ips or the build quality and brand name. I'm right?
     
    slazyel, Jun 26, 2014
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    I would like to think so. You can replace a screen, you can't replace a soldered card easily.
     
    ChowMeow, Jun 27, 2014
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    Im debating whether to buy the msi ge60 apache pro with the gddr5 860m or wait for the asus g551 to be announced first. I like the build quality, design, battery life and cooling of asus but the higher specs of the msi. Should I get the msi or wait for the asus? Does it matter whether the graphics is gddr3 or 5, gtx850m or gtx860m? Thanks!
     
    QuaintNotions, Jun 27, 2014
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    Also, the deal-breakers for me are that the Y50 doesn't have a DisplayPort (so my 1440p monitor would be useless), and the GX500 has no numpad.
     
    arkham, Jun 27, 2014
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  7. Ramzay

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    Whether it matters what the GPU is depends on your intended use. It should be fairly easy to overclock the DDR5 850m to match the 860. Not so sure about the DDR3 version.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 27, 2014
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    I don't think there's a GDDR5 version of the 850M. Plus, a retailer in the other thread said that an 850M has to have GDDR3 to be called an 850M; if it has GDDR5 it's an 860M.
     
    arkham, Jun 27, 2014
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  9. Ramzay

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    Didn't know that.

    In that case, I would personally wait for the 860m model. But that's me. I would also wait and see how the cooling on the G551 turns out to be.

    I hear bad things about MSI and their heat issues.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 27, 2014
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    Ge40 has a 850m with ddr5.
     
    ChowMeow, Jun 27, 2014
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    Interesting! I guess that blows that theory out of the water. I wonder what he meant.

    I wondered if maybe it was only a one-way thing, that an 860M had to have GDDR5 to be branded an 860M, but I found some 860Ms that had GDDR3. Oh well. :)
     
    arkham, Jun 27, 2014
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  12. Ramzay

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    I'm still not sure why Clevo doesn't do what Lenovo did, and get somebody who can give them a fresh, more sleek design for their chassis.

    I'm not saying to go the Y50 route - a huge part of the Clevo appeal is how easy it is to upgrade, and all the upgrades that are possible, which is due to the thick, roomy chassis.

    But there must be a middle ground. I'm not 100% sold on the Y50 because it has only one HDD slot, no mSATA, no optical drive, small battery...But I'm also so-so on the Shark 3 (Clevo I got, check my profile for my review) because the finish of the build, the materials used, and the overall look could be better.

    The G551 looks like that middle-ground, but the Shark 3/Y50 come in around $1200, while the G551 will likely cost at least $1500.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 27, 2014
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  13. Any_Key

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    Yes, there are 850M's with GDDR5 in them, but they are rare.

    @QuaintNotions, to answer that question I will ask a question. Do you absolutely need to buy now, or can you afford to wait until August/September? If you need to buy right now, then go with the MSI. If you can wait until August/September, I would wait until then. Asus offers better build, cooling, and screen quality compared to the MSI GE builds.

    @Ramzay, I highly doubt that the G551 will cost at least $1500 (maybe with the 4K screen). You can grab the G750 with the 860M for around $1350, and that is a lot more screen retail, better cooling. The G551 is competing with the MSI GE60, you can expect pricing to be competitive as well. I'm gon'na say base will be around $1200 (1080P screen, 860M, 750GB HD, 8GB RAM).
     
    Any_Key, Jun 27, 2014
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  14. XxxKing YBxxX

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    Where did you find an 860m with ddr3?
     
    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 27, 2014
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  15. XxxKing YBxxX

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    ^ quoted the wrong post, meant to quote arkham
     
    XxxKing YBxxX, Jun 27, 2014
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  16. arkham

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    I just did a quick search on Google and saw a few quick results. I just checked again and saw that the one I *did* look at was notebookcheck.net's review model, but when I read the full page it was referring to the system RAM. So maybe there aren't any 860Ms with GDDR3 afterall.
     
    arkham, Jun 27, 2014
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    Like I said nvidia will not allow a gtx to ship with ddr3. Otherwise it is an 850m.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 27, 2014
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    Won't the G551 have a 850 option? Or is it only the N551? If they do, I'm guessing the price will the same as JK, $1100. I do hope they can keep it below $1200 with 860 as you think.
     
    fabiodiazs, Jun 28, 2014
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    Do you think there will be a FHD screen model with 860m? What I feel is they will release FHD with 850m and 4K model will have 860 (this is just my opinion)..that's why I'm thinking of pulling the plug on N/G550JK..MSI GE series have single fan..means lot of overheating issues :/ and Y50 has a terrible screen..
     
    vish120292, Jun 28, 2014
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  20. QuaintNotions

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    Thats why I can't decide which laptop to get. They all have their pros and cons but none are built like the Asus. The specs of MSI are higher though.
     
    QuaintNotions, Jun 28, 2014
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  21. Ramzay

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    My advice would be to get the one with the pros that can't be upgraded and the cons that can be.

    The soldered GPU can't be upgraded. If the laptop has no expansion possibilities (no extra HDD bays, no mSATA, no optical drive bay), that can't be changed. The display panel can be changed. The build/finish/materials can't be changed.

    Food for thought.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 28, 2014
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    I think MSI is out..cooling is very important in a laptop like this and it fails in that department...
    Best Option is to get Y50 and swap the screen if you have money and knowledge in swapping screens..
     
    vish120292, Jun 28, 2014
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  23. Any_Key

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    So from everything that I've read, it sounds like the base configuration starts with the 860M (... "can be swapped out with a 850M...") and 1080P screen ("IPS screen up to 4K display"). Having an 850M or 4K screen sounds like custom SKU's. I highly doubt the 860M will come only with 4K screens as that would be increasing the pricing on the unit, and at that point it would be better to buy the GX500 since that is a 4K screen standard.

    Again, this unit will compete with the MSI GE60 (860M variant). The GX500 is to compete with the MSI GS60. Asus has stated that they need to target the area that MSI currently is dominating in the mid-range/entry level gaming units.
     
    Any_Key, Jun 28, 2014
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    Can someone help me decide between the Y50 and Asus G551? I don't want to spend 1600 on the Y50 only to regret it later..
     
    kevintimate, Jun 28, 2014
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  25. Any_Key

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    Can you wait? If yes, then get the G551. If no, then get the Y50.
     
    Any_Key, Jun 28, 2014
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  26. ronferri

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    the g551 does not have the same internal cooling and ventilation design as the G750 right?
     
    ronferri, Jun 28, 2014
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  27. Any_Key

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    Based on the screen caps a few pages back, correct. It appears to be using a single fan cooling solution.
     
    Any_Key, Jun 28, 2014
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    No the G750 is the only setup with such large fans/heatsinks due to the size category it fits in.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 29, 2014
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    Wait, so I could just remove the screen and put in a higher res one? I thought that they require specific drivers, hardware etc. to work. Now Im slightly confused.
     
    QuaintNotions, Jun 29, 2014
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    I'm sorry I can't help you there..all I know is you can swap it with another FHD screen with better quality since Y50 has only 57% sRGB..
     
    vish120292, Jun 29, 2014
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    Ramzay, Jun 29, 2014
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    It requires a display of the same dimensions and connector and wiring.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 29, 2014
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  34. Any_Key

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    At least this video confirms no rear exhaust ports, so no doubt that this is a single fan setup.

    In regards to the card slot, yes, there is one in the front. It can be seen in the following video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SVgvE0iI-k
     
    Any_Key, Jun 30, 2014
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  35. Ramzay

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    Single fan isn't necessarily a bad thing. Check my sig for my review of a Clevo with a single fan, heat wasn't a problem.
    Depends on how they design the overall cooling system.
     
    Ramzay, Jun 30, 2014
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  36. Meaker@Sager

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    Exactly, single fan is not an issue if the heatsink is designed properly and the right fan chosen.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Jun 30, 2014
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  37. Any_Key

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    Didn't mean for my comment to come across as "dual fan good, single fan bad", simply trying to conclude the "is it a dual/single fan in G551?" question.
     
    Any_Key, Jun 30, 2014
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  38. Ramzay

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    What I don't like is how the fan is side facing, rather than rear.

    I really don't like side exhausts
     
    Ramzay, Jun 30, 2014
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  39. Banender

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    well be happy it's not on the right side where your mouse is like on toshibas

    but honestly, having the exhaust on the side is beneficial to me

    thats where i put my coffee mug and it keeps warm while playing :)
     
    Banender, Jul 1, 2014
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  40. Banender

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    does anybody know if the g551 box will include the external subwoofer like it does with the g550jk?
     
    Banender, Jul 1, 2014
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  41. Kikich

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    I have confirmation from local reseller that around 20ish Ausgust they will stock G551 ..... woooooooowhoooo
     
    Kikich, Jul 1, 2014
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  42. Any_Key

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    Nice. I contacted XoticPC and they pretty much said they couldn't comment on a release date but to keep checking their social media pages because that is where they announce their new releases.
     
    Any_Key, Jul 1, 2014
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    We'll try to say something here too, just wont know when we'll get them for sure until they are physically here.
     
    Support.3@XOTIC PC, Jul 1, 2014
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  44. Any_Key

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    Sounds good to me, thanks for the update Hutsady!
     
    Any_Key, Jul 1, 2014
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    :( :( :(
    I really hope there is at least a chance it will be earlier than that; it's too late for me. Although I seriously doubt it, I hope the N551 is released earlier than Aug. 20... That's the day I leave the US and return back to Japan... *sigh*

    Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
     
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    RUMOURS' TIME

    ASUS just changed the forum's page title to: FORUM: G750, G751, GX550, G550 and G56 Gaming Notebooks ..... G750, G751, GX550, G550 and G56 Gaming Notebooks

    What do you think? Have they changed the model name from G551 to GX550 ????
     
    Kikich, Jul 2, 2014
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    and where is this local reseller? america or europe?? i guess america but i thought asus tends to release in europe first...
     
    Banender, Jul 2, 2014
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  48. Kikich

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    well, i don't want to disappoint you but it's EU
     
    Kikich, Jul 2, 2014
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  49. Banender

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    you are not disappointing me at all :) i'm from europe! good news

    in this video (last few seconds)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbyVcxROYA4
    the guy said it will launch end of july, beginning of august so actually launching 1 month later seems to be legit, im so excited :p

    just hope that they didn't change the name to gx550 or something and made the display glossy like it was mentioned in the ROG thread...
     
    Banender, Jul 2, 2014
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    It's confirmed these will be Maxwell and not Kepler's right?

    -Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 via Tapatalk
     
    RMXO, Jul 2, 2014
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