Asus ROG G551

No, the GX500 is a totally different model, similar specs but different chassis, look here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/754171-asus-rog-gx500.html

If anything the probably renamed the GX500 to GX550 or just have a typo.

 

Don't think it is confirmed, but since it is only a single fan it makes the most sense to use Maxwell from a heat perspective.

 

Very high chance it will be maxwell. The only Kepler 860ms have been used in laptops that also have an 870m version which is also Kepler so keeping the 860m a Kepler helps some way in the manufacturing process. All laptops that I know of that only have 860m chips and no variants of 870m have the maxwell version

 

Keeping it Kepler means they can use the same motherboard. So it does likely make things easier and cheaper. And many of the laptops that use the 870 & 880 will have dual fans, so there really isn't much advantage to using Maxwell.

 

remember how much SSD's were when they first came out....

 

Looking forward to buying this... SO MUCH... I'll be in the US around September 20th-30th, do you guys think it will be enough ?! (G551 or N551 I don't care). Also, why does it seem that the power button is on the numpad? ugly.

 

doesn't matter, remember how much those old thinkpads were when they first came out? prices drop over time

 

The new 3d nand ssds will be a nice when they hit m.2s and the value for the high end ones is still pretty good. HDDs won't be around too much longer at this rate.

 

What wifi cards do asus ROG laptops usually get fitted with? Killer? Would be great if this laptop had killer

 

Does the G551 have a second HDD slot? (For a SSD?)

 

My guess is it doesn't, but you can swap the dvd drive with a ssd (like the G550).

 

omg i just feel like writing some non-sense to keep this thread alive it's sad to open it up every day and see like zero posts

hm the following things are what i am concerned about:

- will the g551 package include the external subwoofer? the laptop does have the subwoofer jack-in like the g550jk... i think i need it so i can just plug it in when playing music on spotify while having friends over without buying some fancy bluetooth speakers. I think the laptop speakers will be good enough for casual use and like said when you need more just plug in the woofer

- what wifi card will be in this laptop? heard that there are problems with the intel wifi cards and would be great if this laptop came in with killer

Now i know these questions can't be answered since the laptop aint out yet but i am sure some of you can make an educated guess based on past experience with asus rog laptops

 

Haha. I hear ya. I keep checking this thread several times a day. While I'm really more interested in the N551, they're for the most part the same computer, so we're in the same boat.

My number 1 concern at this point is "when". I wrote Asus asking for more information. They referred me to a number I can call. I called and asked about a release date or just any information at all about the N551. The CSR responded like she knew the model and asked for the lettera after it. I told her I don't know them. After a few minutes looking it up on her computer, she came back with bupkiss. I figured as much, but was hoping I might run into someone knowledgeable and willing to share. For me, it looks like the timing is just going to be too late. I might just go ahead and order the N550JK as early as next week if there's no word on a release date by then.

 

hm someone said a page back it's 20th august.

BTW new samsung EVO 850 is coming out...... there goes another new tech coming up... even more reason to wait a bit longer before buying a new laptop unfortunately. I guess ASUS really does have questionable release dates

i have a crappy computer atm (see signature) but i have a lot of stuff going on so there is a possibility for me to wait it out a bit. ASUS should have released these computers like lenovo 1 month ago... the longer they wait the less reason people have to buy them with outdated stuff

don't argue with the fact that there will always be something new coming out because this is insane how many new stuff is coming out very soon

 

Well, technically, if the ASUS rep in the videos released on YouTube is accurate, sounds like we're still pretty early before seeing them getting released. May have jumped the gun on the G550JK with having that the Pre-Order for about 3 months before actually releasing. Probably won't see anything about purchasing until August.

Wifi Card will most likely to be an Intel card (as almost everything is as default). Resellers will most likely be able to swap out with a Killer for an upgrade fee.

 

I'll make some silly questions that have been answered already just to keep the thread a little more alive!

1- Will the n551 and g551 screens be like both 550JKs? I mean, matte on G and glossy on N. I don't know why, but I think that I read somewhere that this time around the N would have an option for matte, too.
2- What do you guys prefer? Glossy or Matte? I've read many gamers and display ehtusiasts saying that matte is the way to go, though others think that the colors on a glossy just "pop" more. I'm not interested in using my laptop outdoors, 95% of the time will be in my bedroom, with the lights out, but I just wanted someone's opinion. I am not able to compare side to side both types of screens, unfortunately.

 

based on a video of the n551 the screen seems to be matte...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNmtYAGxXWQ

weather you work inside or outside you will always be affected by glares and they are a bit annoying but you can get used to them to a certain point. Glare screens don't have this anti-glare layer which makes the screen look a bit "milky" and bland, but the benefit is that it's more constant i.e. you don't have to fight the glares all the time. So it's really a question weather you want to have a bit washed-out screen (compared to non-matte) or if you like to see your face all the time when viewing darker content.

I personally think that it's easier to get used to the slightly less popping anti-glare screen than to get used to those glares. The "washed-out" effect of matte is really just minimal and you will stop noticing it in no time. The reason why some people prefer glare screens though, and this is important, is for photo editing, for example.

So unless you are going to be photo editing I would choose matte so you can comfortably view your screen and not fight glares all the time just because you wanted the colors to not be a bit obstructed by the anti-glare layer.

 

IKR?

Actually I was hoping it didn't have the ext subwoofer to keep the price a bit lower but I don't think they're willing to release ROG laptops without these anymore...

Intel dual band 99,999999% chance.

I'm also concerned about 'when'. I kinda NEED they to be available by the time I'm leaving the US (Sept. 27th). Based on the G550JK it's kinda difficult to hope for it... If I can't get the N551/G551 then it's P34G V2 for me : X

 

I went ahead and pre-ordered the G550JK -_-

 

Just saw that the G550JK US launch got pushed from June 30th to July 20th now. Wonder what is causing the delays for ASUS?

 

The G550JK should'nt even have been planned IMHO! Still trying to cope with a $1000 gaming laptop with DDR3 gpu... I expect it to last only a few units, being replaced in some months by the G551. Or a price drop...

 

It's a trade off with DDR3 and GDDR5 in terms of form factor and power separate from cost.

 

hey, should i buy the G550jk or wait?
I know about the ddr3 gpu but what do you think please help?!
Or should i wait more for the G551, is it that of a huge difference in GPU?
thanks.

 

Really need to make an update to the 1st post of this page with an FAQ, with the 1st one being "Should I get the G550JK or should I wait?"

Answer:
"If you can wait, wait. If you can't then find an alternative laptop with a 860M. If you can't find an alternative with an 860M in it that you like then go for the G550JK."

 

Thanks, you know i could wait for the G551 but the only problem that might face me is the price of the machine, what do you think it will be?
And lets say a game gets 30 fps on the 850, how much will the fps be on the 860?
thanks.

 

No official price announced, this has been covered a few pages back. Guestimated price ~$1200-1300 for base model to compete with MSI GE60.

 

On average if you get 30 fps on 850m you'll get around 40 with an 860m

I added the g550jk question on first post

 

According to benchmarks, the 850 is around 10% slower than the 860.

EDIT: Those benchmarks are for the DDR5 version apparently. Is there even such a thing?

 

Only gddr5 and ddr3. Gddr5 850m is indeed around 10% slower. Ddr3 850m is around a whopping 35% slower than 860m.

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Review of the DD3 version of the 850M:

Asus GL550JK-CN391H Notebook Review - NotebookCheck.net Reviews

Seems like it has relatively quiet fans but runs a little hot under load, temps are decent when gaming.

 

I gotta admit i'm getting a little sick of waiting for additional details or some kind of review, anything even resembling a release date, etc.

I'm almost to the point of buying a Y50 and a replacement screen then waiting for this Asus.

I really wish companies would stop releasing info at things like computex or E3, or whatever, and then absolutely silence until 2 months later. If the product isnt really close to ready for release, maybe wait until the next computer tradeshow to give out info?

 

And if a company is silent on up coming products then people complain

 

This is true, its always a delicate dance. Still, i think in this scenario its starting to approach being a bit ridiculous. In computer terms 2-3 months is a long time. Especially with new video card, processors, etc etc coming out all the time.

 

I couldn't wait any longer; I really needed a new laptop for work. I chose to buy used (N550jk) from Amazon warehouse deals, since there's no restocking fee if I decide to return within 30 days. I'm really hoping for a speedy release date within that time frame. If the N551 gets released by the end of August, I'll return the N550jk and buy the N551 for sure; it is my ideal laptop of 2014 (presuming it comes in with the 860m and that awesome display at under $1500).

 

That's pretty much exactly how I feel; except that if I have to get the N550JK, I don't want to be stuck with a used one. But I really need to make up my mind and order within the next few days or so. Asus is not making this easy.

 

Amazon warehouse deals are generally safe bets, fwiw. They test everything to make sure it's all working right, and they specify whatever is wrong (packaging is opened or damaged, maybe there is a scuff mark, whatever). You get it for around $100 less, and if you want to return it there's no restocking fee.

 

This is getting abit too much ASUS, ive been waiting for info and release date and stuff for this laptop for way too much, this might make me end up buying the G550Jk or N550JK ill probably just try to cope for a few more day.

 

I'm thinking I'll try to hold out till August 1st. Or I may do the same as fantasticzig.

 

Has Asus not announced anything yet? This is getting ridiculous. I think this thread is dying so heres another post to keep it alive.

 

Well the G550 is not yet available in UK for example, so I'm guessing we'll need to wait a bit longer for the G551

 

I have just found this thread 2 days ago. Ok, I didn't know Asus was coming with a new series of gaming laptops. Before I find this info I was decide that I would buy an Asus g750. The reason for that is that I currently have an Asus N56VJ that I use to play mmo's like HoN and also WoW. I'd say the my laptop does the job decently, 53fps for HoN( can't remember how many in WoW, I'm at work right now). But here's the problem, after around 20minutes playing any moderate-heavy game the left side of the laptop where the exhaust is located start getting really hot. You can still keep playing but you have to take your left hand off for a few seconds. I know my laptop is not a gaming one, and that's why I was going towards the G750 series. I was impressed with the reviews about it, especially because of the dual cooling system located on the back. But then, I figured out about these new upcoming models, G551 and GX500. Everything about the G551 impressed me with positive points, the 15.6 display, the design and specs, except for one thing: The cooling system. It seems to be a single cooling system like was discussed on the previous posts. And for the experience I'm having right now with the N56VJ I kinda reject it after that. My laptop uses a G635M GPU that is way lower in performance compared to a 860M. Being that said, the heat generated by the 860M wouldn't be higher than the G635M? Do you guys really think that a single cooling system with the exhaust located on the side will be able to keep the temps lower and maintain the comfortable for long sessions of game without having the issue that I listed above? Sorry for the long post, I'm really like the G551, but again the only thing the concerns me is the cooling system. I can't wait to see the reviews on the G551.

 

Sorry for going off topic but I need to ask a question. Why does the Msi ge60 apache pro 033 have a black intel sticker but the asus g550jk with the same or a higher CPU have a blue sticker? I thought the black ones mean that they are better? This is a little confusing.

 

@Demike, The general consensus is that the G551 will be using the Maxwell 860M card which has much better efficiency and thermals than previous Kepler cards. In addition to using a good thermal paste, and some good maintenance practices (keeping exhaust port and fan clean regularly), should keep it running cool. Not sure what type of fan they will be using, but I haven't really seen any complaints about Asus fans used in their laptops yet (say compared to say MSI GE Series).

 

Any_Key thank you for your answer. I think my heat problem is right there. I have been using the laptop for about 10 months and I never open it to clean the fan or replace to thermal paste. Since this is my first laptop I didn't know I had to open the chassis regularly to keep it clean. I have always had desktops and from time to time I open it to remove the dust and change the thermal paste, but because this procedure I find to be more complicated on laptops I just thought that I didn't need to do it. Nice answer, I have seen on the web that Maxwell has been improved a lot compared to Kepler structure.

 

The G551 seems to be built around the N56 casing and cooling system, just different coloring.
IMO this is not a bad thing, I have the N56JR and it is one of the better computers when it comes to balance cooling/noise/performance. Cooling is silent enough to not be annoying, while still good enough to not cause throttling (CPU runs at 93-94C during heavy gaming though). Competition from Clevo/MSI/lenovo use WAY more noisy cooling solutions - and still throttles more!

 

Yup, the first laptop I had to disassemble to get to the fans and heat sink was a 2007 Dell XPS machine and that was a chore to get through. I think most laptop OEMs realize that users want to be able to at least get in and get a few shots of compressed air in the fans to clean them out and so they are much easier to get to now by just removing the back plates. Removing the heat sinks are a bit of a different story, but again, they are getting easier to get to.

 

Thanks for the feedback OC-Freak. I agree that the g551 is quite similar compared to N56 series, with a few changes of course. And based in what Any_Key said, I'll start open it to clean it regularly. Good to know they are becoming easier to get through.

 

The acer machines went from pretty nice to horrible so quickly, it was back panel access to remove the entire motherboard in a single refresh *sigh*.

 

Still no news from asus huh? (Lets keep this thread alive)

 

So should i go with the G550JK?