Asus ROG Strix GL502VT

Hey guys whats your fps is in GTA V? does it drops in 15 below? because mine does and even if i set the video setting to lower once it still drops. btw my laptop is da vy version
TIA!

 

Seems the fan speeds are bumped up/speed increase set at lower temps than before - I guess identical with the VY version which already had higher fan speed and higher noise.

Good for cooling, bad for noise. If you are noise sensitive you might consider not upgrading - unless you have throttling with the lower fan speed.

 

I have the vy version as well. I can get 60 fps with most settings on 'very high'. I leave the grass setting on 'high' though as it's the number one fps killer in GTA V.

 

I don't know how is the thermal of the VY version, but now if you get 79-80°C on CPU or GPU the fans will run up to 4900rpm to lower the temps. Before you could reach 85-90°C and the fans were just running at 3900rpm. You can hear the fans only if you have those temps and fans go up to 4000+ rpm. I tried again different games (Hitman, Rainbow Six Siege, Metal Gear Solid V) and temps were between 68 and 74-75°C (undervolted and with a cooling pad) but mostly on 70-72°C, fans running from 2800 to 3900rpm without any kind of noise.

I prefer cooling (to preserve also components life) than noise. Also i play games using headphones and not the bad speakers of the gl502vt.

 

Does anyone know the refresh rate of the VY model display? I just couldn't imagine having a Gsync monitor and only having a 60hz refresh rate with the power of the 980m. I have a 144hz monitor so I'm speaking from ignorance, but doesn't Gsync stop working past the monitors refresh rate?

 

60Hz as far as I know. And yes Gsync will then be limited at 60.

All Gsync laptop monitors are 60Hz as far as I know. But there are a few 17" models that has been overclocked to 75Hz by the laptop manufacturer for higher Gsync limit.

 

Just got my GL502VT-DS74 but I am having issues with the Wifi adapter. it finds the router but cant connect to it and when it does connect to it, the internet is not available.
Sometimes it will work and then issues again. Does this sound like a hardware problem or just setting issues?

 

Yeah the G751 can do 75hz. I was hoping this one could as well.

 

Which Wifi adapter did it come with? Update to the latest driver from the appropriate site, Killer Wireless, Intel, or Realtek.

That's usually the problem, always update to the latest in the Asus support page, but for Wireless go to the vendor directly.

 

It's Intel. I will try to update the driver first.

 

If you have an older router, check their website for new firmware - don't depend on the in router software check - they often don't have the latest firmware available - go to the vendor support site for that model directly.

 

Hey guys I recently purchased the gl502vy-ds74 from bestbuy. Funnily enough, I just now came across this thread. Anyways I haven't seen too many reviews of this version of the laptop online, so once I recieve it I will be making some. Things to expect include gaming benchmarks, specifications reviews, overclocking tutorials, a disassembly guide, etc.

 

SWEET! If you can, could you run SWTOR maxed settings minus shadow map resolution slider, and tell me how many fps you get? Thanks.

 

I found something really sad. It seems that if your laptop has Optimus (GL502VT has it) then you can't activate the Nvidia DSR feature. Do you know anything about this? I am checking Nvidia forums but can't find anything.

It's really sad 'cause i tried some games in 1440p (Shadow of Mordor and Just Cause 3) and it's actually very good (medium settings 40fps) while it's barely acceptable with 4K (low settings 25-30fps). While some games let you choose even the max. resolution, many don't, that's why a feature like the DSR is really usefull.

EDIT: I had a little chat with a Nvidia operator and he confirmed me that the DSR is still in development and it will be released with the next updates.

Here's the reference chart (published in 2014):
http://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3597

 

That's why I speak out against Optimus whenever I can, it's an abomination that gets in the way of everything fun the discrete GPU wants to do.

That chart needs to be updated, discrete Notebook DSR has been working for quite a while. Including SLI

DSR was working in my GT80 SLI-263 within a couple of driver updates, sometime around July in 2015.

I doubt DSR will ever work when stuck behind the Intel iGPU active through Optimus.

 

Yes I can give it a try but I won't get to that game until a little later as I had planned to do games like gta v and iv, need for speed, and cs go first.

 

Like cut your battery life in half.

No, but seriously, it seems to still be in development, so it hasn't been ruled out yet. So let's stay tuned. Perhaps it will soon become available.

 

I'm not saying extending battery life is a bad thing, I just saying Optimus is not a good solution - the battery life gets extended, but it's at the unecessary cost of a lot of functionality of the discrete GPU and display system in general.

Getting a matrix switch implementation - so you can switch between the iGPU for battery work and the d-GPU for powered work is a far better solution.

I hope Intel continues to remove the bad things about Optimus, but it's been a lot of years, and a lot of problems under the bridge, with most of the same worst problem still in place.

 

New GL502VS-DB71 with 1070 - $1699

From:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...00m-series-gpus.763032/page-637#post-10311834

ASUS GL502VS-DB71 ROG 15.6" Full-HD Gaming Laptop, Intel Core I76700Q, NVIDIA GTX 1070, 256GB SSD + 1TB HDD, Windows 10, Black
https://www.amazon.com/GL502VS-DB71-Full-HD-Gaming-I76700Q-Windows/dp/B01K1INYD0/

 

Oh, this really pisses me off, is it already out?

Damn, it doesn't cost so much for a 1070...
Now the question is: should i return my laptop and wait? :O

 

The Pascal laptops have been on the way for a while now, MSI has a countdown clock here for their announcements:
https://gaming.msi.com/promotion/alter-your-reality

The other rumored announcement dates are the 15th-19th, with unknown availability thereafter.

You could call your vendor to see what they will offer for a return swap. You might need to pay restocking fees, as they would need to sell your laptop as used instead of new, so they will take a loss.

There are lots of other laptops being released, but the Asus GL502/GL702 with 1060/1070 look darn good, at the same prices as the previous generation.

 

Exactly what I was thinking. I just purchased the gl502vy-ds74 and I haven't even got it yet. I might just return it once it ships over here so I can wait until at least the 1070 version comes out. I've never had an actual gaming computer before so I'm not sure how the 980m compares to the graphics card of like a PS3 or PS4. I really want something that will last me some time like my PS3 did, in terms of playing future games even on the lowest quality with at least 30-40 fps. Can anyone help me out?

 

I have to correct my previous sentence, that's an interesting price but for US only, cause in Europe/Italy it will come with taxes to $2000 (1.900€). The VY with the GTX980m already costs 2000€ here so i imagine the VS will cost the same. They didn't even put on it a 4K monitor which could be normal with a gtx 1070. I guess i will stick with my gtx 970m.

I think the gtx970m can last much anyway on the lowest quality settings. Maybe i am wrong, but i think it can be stronger than the PS4 Neo and Xbox Scorpio coming out next year so it will handle games easily on high settings and 30-60fps at 1080p. Perhaps it will survive to the next gen consoles too (coming on 2019-2020), i just hope it will last 7-8 years from now on.

 

Always go for the better GPU, even for a few bucks more, especially if you want to keep it long term.

7-8 years is a bit long, 2-4 years is more "normal" long term.

The internal screen can be a nice 1080p for mobile use - draws less power on the screen and rendering games at 4k takes more power too. Use an external screen for 4k HDR for example, when they come out at a good price.

Windows doesn't scale well @ 4k on many built in and application's have issues too with menu's and tiny fonts. Even on a large monitor it's hard to read at times, on a 15" screen is impossible.

You could get a 17" GL702 w/1070 and I think Asus will offer a 120hz 1080p 5ms screen with that model, but nothing is announced or leaked yet.

You could also consider the 1060 models of both the GL502 and GL702 if you need to save $, and get a 980m class GPU instead of the 970m. I would stretch for the 1070, but budgets are meant to be followed

It's still a bit early, nothing has been released, and no tests from the reviewer or users will come for another week or two.

What is the return period for your purchase? 7-30 days is the usual range.

Either way, an Asus GL502/GL702 will be a great laptop

 

I have a bestbuy card so my return policy is 45 days instead of the usual 30. I'm really trying to figure out how they will put the 1070 in a laptop while having enough heat dissipation to not throttle to the point where it's actually worth it to upgrade. I guess they'll figure it out, I mean the price in itself is a good deal (as long as it stays the same when it actually comes out).

 

I had 30 days but now only 20 left to return it back at no cost. And since i am in Europe the laptop will be released later than in US (i have found only 1 model of the GL502VY so i think the new models will come only on 2017).

Anyway the GTX 970m is more powerfull than the PS4/Xbox One, so how can it last just 2-4 years when the actual consoles will last 4 years as well? And since the GTX970m is powerfull shouldn't be able to last the next-gen too? (at lower settings and always on 1080p).

I don't know if the price is correct, i think not 'cause the Asus GL502VY with the gtx980m costs 1.699$ so how the same model with the GTX 1070 could cost the same?
The Asus GL502VT with the GTX 970m i bought was really cheap (1547$), am not sure the new models with 1060/1070 will be the same.

 

The pricing is a nice surprise, but the GPU's are shifted down one in naming from Maxwell, but since they are so much faster the level replacement is much higher.

The match is done for heat dissipation, so the equivalent heat output GPU is put in place of the same heat output of the previous generation.

970m => 1060
980m => 1070
980 desktop mobile => 1080

The 970m is 1/2 the performance of the 1070... 1/2. That's a big jump, and not to be missed

Actually I have seen MSI release in Europe first, but IDK about this time. I don't think it's worth not waiting, it's too big of a performance jump for the same price.

Worth the wait

20 days gives you enough time to see the announcements and release dates for Europe.

Remember, don't tell them you are returning to get a new one, you are returning it "because it doesn't meet my needs".

There may be a restocking fee either way, but again remember 2x performance from 970m => 1070/1060.

Good luck, and let us know how it turns out

 

The price of $1700 will sadly get a massive increase in the European market. I've already found the VS version in a norwegian store, priced at 19000 NOK (2060€), which is honestly too much. I'm also waiting to see what the pricing is going to be on a 4k version, since the 1070 is pretty much an overkill for FHD. Would be ideal for 4k though.

You cannot even really compare the 970M/980M cards to a console. The PS4 contains a graphics card a little worse than a 750 Ti. The mentioned laptop cards are all immensely more powerful than anything they put into consoles, past or current gen.

 

The only single card that gets close to consistant 60 fps @ 4k is the Overclocked Titan X Pascal edition.

The 1070 is about as fast as 970m SLI, which isn't enough for 4k in games.

And, again you are increasing the performance requirement for all games and anything that renders for the display resolution for little benefit, but lots of heat generation.

For the 1070 ideally you would run 1080p @ 120hz, or 1440p @ 60-75hz.

The performance is still worth the few hundred more it might cost, but reduce that price gap by not loading it up with storage and RAM, buy those later and upgrade over time so as to afford the best GPU at initial purchase.

It's still all about the GPU performance, get that non-upgradable component in as high a performance version as possible for the longest useful life span for the laptop.

You can always get a nice 1440p high refresh rate widescreen external monitor if you want to stretch the 1070's legs with higher resolution.

 

You're right about it being worth it to upgrade but if my 980m is more powerful than the consoles like ps4 and Xbox one right now, then I think I'm good with it for a few years of gaming.

 

Consoles and PC's are not comparable, as someone posted earlier.

If you want console performance, buy a console. They generally run games at less than 60 fps, usually 30 fps.

And Consoles upscale from lower resolution than the display resolution of 1080p or 2160p in the upcoming models.

PC's on the other hand do best at native resolution @ 60 fps or higher.

So you want to build the PC to meet next generation performance requirements, which would be 1440p @ 120hz, or 2160p @ 60hz to meet todays 1080p @ 60hz needs + future needs.

Besides, why would you pass up 2x the GPU performance for the same money for waiting a few weeks to a month?

The new pascal laptop announcements are literally days away.

You are antsy to get / have the gaming laptop now, but that month will disappear and you will see all the same priced 1070 laptops, and wish you had waited.

Then there are the new technologies in the Pascal GPU for VR and other performance improvements, missing from Maxwell GPU's.

It's a tough situation, but stay strong and hold out for the new stuff

 

Tbh, you're right about me being antsy to get this laptop. I've never been able to get a gaming computer with this much power before. All of my other computers have been hand-me-downs and they weren't that great at playing games except for something like gta sa (only playable at lowest settings btw). The only thing I don't like about waiting for the new laptop gpus is that I don't know for sure when they're coming out in the us, the price isn't confirmed yet, and the only retailer I can purchase from right now is Best Buy because I can get 12 months financing with my card.

The only problem with Best Buy is that they seem to take a pretty long time coming out with new laptops compared to something like Amazon.

That being said, I'm not usually an impatient person but I haven't had an opportunity like this my entire life and I'm planning on enlisting in the military soon. I would like to be able to purchase it before I start my service but only if it's at the right price. When I first looked at the gl502vy, I thought it was pretty much a beast (even though it's second to the desktop class 980 in a notebook), but now I have no idea what to do. If I return my laptop and wait for the new one fitted with the latest gpu and its price is too high, I'm pretty much screwed because I don't have the time to reorder the 980m.

 

Bestbuy usually gets retail models quickest, so you shouldn't need to wait too long.

You can call the Bestbuy 800 number, and talk with a rep that can call the "buyers" / "shipping" manager(s) that have the incoming inventory lists, but do it after the announcement for the Pascal laptops, they can't talk about stuff under NDA. On or after 8/16 should be good.

Bestbuy should be able to find you a 980m should the time run out, but if not then you can get something else available at the time. There are / were lots of 980m laptops.

Maybe you will find another laptop model/brand with 1070 available in your time frame as well, you don't need to limit yourself to the Asus GL502/GL702.

There are MSI models coming out that are slim and have the 1070/1060 too, maybe available before the Asus models as well.

It's nice to have a fun familiar distraction like this around when major life things are happening, it helps ground you and balance things out

Good luck.

 

So I assume that you currently own the VY version, with a FHD GSYNC display. You need to ask yourself: do you really need the upgrade? Is it worth the trouble and the wait? Did you find enough games that you would like to play, where the 980M wasn't powerful enough?

 

Honestly I think the games I want to play are good with the one I bought already. Beamng drive, gta iv and v are some games that I want to play. I hope it'll be able to handle gta vi well enough.

 

That's my point. I bought the VT version at 1385€ with the gtx970m 3gbddr5, 16gb ram,128ssd,1tb 7200rpm,i7 6700hq (which is a good price for what laptops cost here) so if the VS will come at 1900+€ then it's not the same price and i can't really afford it.

 

That's 2 levels of upgrade - which costs $$$, where as @birdyhands is side grading cost wise, but getting 2x the GPU performance.

That's a hard thing to pass up, if you want to extend the life of the effectiveness of the laptop.

Measuring performance on what you are running today isn't enough to assure long term viability.

Man, if I had the choice, I know I'd be lining up my local BestBuy's, priming them to grab one on release - they are going to be scarce - to make sure I there was a unit to swap to.

I'd also be turning in the one I have now to make sure something silly doesn't happen between now and then - like dropping it, or leaving the backpack somewhere and it gets nabbed.

You're just really lucky the timing works out like this for you. I can assure you timing like this doesn't come along on a regular basis

 

If the laptop was already released at bestbuy it would be a no brainer for me. I'd return the one (hasn't arrived yet) that I bought and get the 1070. I just find it so stressful, trying to figure out what to do. Worst possible time (for me) that asus could decide to release a new laptop with a better gpu and not tell us when that date is. I'm leaning toward returning it and waiting. I'll give bestbuy a call and see what they say about laptops with the 1070.

 

Check with BestBuy about their return policy, as long as you don't open the box they shouldn't charge you. Also, you could refuse delivery at the door, they can't charge you for that - but check to make sure

I don't think BB will charge you a restocking fee even if you return it opened and gently used. But check with them to make sure.

It's about as close of timing as you could hope for, as hand-wringing knuckle biters go

 

I found 2 listings on another website, although it doesn't say anything about the gpu:
http://www.compsource.com/pn/GL502V...-256gb-156in-No-Touch-Screen-W10-GL502VSDB71/

http://www.compsource.com/pn/GL502V...-512gb-156in-No-Touch-Screen-W10-GL502VSDB74/

Price is pretty low compared to the 980m. ^_^

 

Hi guys,
I just ordered a GL502VT and I think it will arrive soon.
After scrolling through some pages to learn more about this laptop, i have some questions that I want to ask:
- Why this model come up with a TN panel ? I ordered it on amazon, will are there any chance that my laptop will come with a TN panel ? I don't want TN....
- Reading through the review on Notebookcheck, they said that the monitor panel has really slow response rate and also have screen flickering, are you guys also experience that ? Will it will be really disturbing ?
- Is there any issues that people usually have with this laptop ? I guess that this laptop thermal design is not good so that I have to underclock the CPU using XTU
- Is there any guide to help this laptop run smoother without throttling ?
Thanks guys ! ))

 

I believe the version they sell on Amazon always comes with the IPS display. Correct me if I'm wrong though.

I've been using it for almost 4 months now and I couldn't notice any flickering. What you should watch out for though is backlight bleeding. Check your model after you've received it to make sure there isn't any excessive bleeding.

I never had any issues with overheating, although people from warmer climates have reported some quite high temps some time ago.
What you should do as soon as you get your laptop is update your BIOS to the newest version from ASUS's official product site. It seems to reduce the temps by a fair amount, especially on the CPU by using the full potential of the cooling system. The original BIOS did not seem to utilize the fans to 100%. If you do that, together with undervolting the CPU or even going as far as getting a cooling pad, you won't have to worry about any overheating.

Hope you like your new laptop!

 

@fw85 , thanks for your reply !
Yes I guess that I will love it, after making a tough decision between the Predator 15 and this laptop, I decided to go with this Asus.
Just 2 more questions:
- Do you think that the response time of the panel is too high that playing fps games will be bad ? I'm planning to play Overwatch on this machine so is that will be a problem ?
- I want to install a SSD on this machine, so if I open the case, will the warranty voided ? And is installing SSD is easy so that I can do it all by myself ?
Thank you again !

 

The response time won't be too much of a problem, asus did design it to be a gaming laptop. You should get great frame rates on overwatch. You will not void the warranty on the laptop if you open the case to install a ssd. Installing a ssd is pretty easy so you can do it yourself.

 

I've owned a GL502VT for 3 days, buying it from Best Buy after my Gigabyte Aero 14 came in with a defective battery that wouldn't charge.

• Specs
  • i7 6700HQ
  • 970M
  • 12GB RAM
  • 1TB HDD

It's an amazing computer, very sturdy and portable for its size and performance.

A few cons-

• The trackpad is very frictiony to me.
• The screen seems "blurry" to me, but I'm not used to this type of laptop screen yet. You might need to mess with Windows 10's display scaling.
• It runs hot. While the palmrests stay cool and the keyboard, too, stays mostly cool, once you get above the keyboard, the laptop is very hot when gaming. That said, it does not run hot during light tasks.

It performs well for me, although I may later consider adding an SSD and swapping out the 4GB ram stick for an 8GB for 16GB.

 

Hey man, nice to hear that the vt is working out for you. Could you list some of the average frames that you get when playing games? Thanks.

 

Glad you like your new laptop!

Windows 10 does have some strange dpi scaling sometimes. If the UI in some programs seems blurry, simply right click the program's .exe file, go to properties → compatibility and check "Disable display scaling on high DPI settings".

 

I just purchased a GT502VT-DS71 and flashed bios to the new 300. However, my temps aren't showing in the BIOS. I installed Open Hardware monitor and it is not showing a CPU or GPU temp either. Only hard drive temp. Any idea what I should to? Really interested to see these temps.

 

I have the GL502VT with a little bit different specs:
- i7 6700HQ
- 970M 3GB DDR5
- 16GB RAM 2133MHz
- 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD
(IPS Panel)

I have tested many games since today and i can tell you that the average fps for recent AAA games (2015-2016) at ultra settings is 40/50, sometimes even 60 or more (on Mad Max, MGS V, Star Wars Battlefront, Rainbow Six Siege, Doom etc). But keep in mind that if you OC the gtx 970m (+135MHz coreclock, +500MHz memory clock in my case) without flashing the BIOS/changing the voltage you will get 6-7 fps more and about 5% less performance than the gtx980m (depending on the game) which is perfect if you wanna play recent games on very high/ultra at a stable 60fps/1080p or sometimes even more. If you switch to 900p you can get from 10 to 23fps more. It can also handle 1440p at High settings (30/60fps) and 4K (mixed settings for 30fps, sometimes more if you overclock it).

Check this page for some really interesting benchmarks: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-970M.126694.0.html

It seems to me a very good GPU for 1080p and 1440p, also 4K if you don't mind to turn some settings on medium/low for a stable frame rate. It definitely beats the GTX980M for the price and it can get close to it if you do some overclock. The only limit i see here is the 3GB DDR5 VRAM that could not be enough in the future (games like Hitman or Rise of the Tomb Raider requires 4gb of VRAM for very high textures).

About the mobile 1060/1070 i didn't see any benchmark yet but i think they will cost the same as the desktop versions since they should have a similar performance. So they definitely won't be so cheap.

 

Hi guys, the laptop just arrived today so tonight I just do a clean install, installing drivers and try to undervolt my CPU. I set it to -150mV and its run good, I think that I should be happy enough with that number. Also try to overclock the GPU, +135 on core and +300 on games, not a problem but I haven't try any games yet maybe it will be tomorrow that I will do some gaming. And I guess that I have to get used to Win 10 though, before purchasing this laptop I always stick with 7, still need some more time.
Still I'm very happy with my laptop for now, it nicely replaced my Vostro 5460 with old crappy 630m that can't even play dota 2 lol