Asus ROG Strix GL502VT

Hi @fw85 can i just ask if you have tried removing the batt and connect the charger to the laptop if it still working? and would you recommmend doing this rather than keeping the charger connected even if the batt is fully charged? TIA

 

Hello,
I've not tried to remove the battery yet, but I believe it is possible, should it become faulty after time. It's just being held down by a couple of screws, it's not like it's soldered to the frame.

The way batteries in most modern day laptops work, including this one, is that once the battery reaches a 100% charge, and the laptop is still plugged into the AC, the battery is essentially taken out of the power loop completely and power is directed to the laptop's PSU directly, leaving the battery in the same state, as if it was taken out and placed on a shelf. After time, the battery will naturally discharge, until a certain point (90-95%, not sure), at which it will be charged to a 100% again.

The way batteries often used to work in older laptops, was that the battery was constantly a part of the power loop, even while plugged in to the AC, constantly being charged and discharged, even at 100% charge, it would always go to 99.9%, then back to 100%, which ultimately wasn't healthy for the battery's life.
edit: source about the way old batteries used to work: http://www.pcworld.com/article/191574/long_live_your_laptop_battery.html - scroll down to the "Give it a rest" section - this is what you no longer have to do with modern day batteries

So to answer your question, it's perfectly fine to leave the battery in, while the AC is connected, as the battery will not receive/be drained of any power, once it's fully charged.. it's just passively sitting there.
If you got the time, I can also recommend reading an in-depth guide about the best way to treat a battery in laptops e.g.: http://batterycare.net/en/guide.html

 

Hello
Does anyone know exact measurements of GL702 ?

 

Just a note - the $1200 version from Bestbuy has no international warranty, not an IPS display either, and memory performance seems to be below DDR4 dual channel expected performance according to this gl502vt review

 

When memory size between "slots" is mismatched - here it's 8GB + 4GB, you loose dual channel support. Not a huge hit, but it trims a bit off the top performance. You won't notice it in day to day use.

If you upgrade at BestBuy when you first purchase, ask to swap the 4GB for a matching 8GB SODIMM (chips matching), and you will get full Dual Channel throughput again. You won't notice it in day to day use.

Instead I would swap the 4GB for a 16GB, and get the extra memory, which is much more noticeable long term than the dual channel speed difference.

It's too bad the reviewer didn't provide the AIDA memory results... or did I miss it?

 

Just when I thought laptopmag's reviews are a bit unprofessional, suddenly I get to read this gaminglaptopsjunky's review and my bullsht-o-meter spikes through the roof.

I've quite literally not seen someone so clueless and unprofessional in a long time. That wasn't a review, that was a guesswork full of subjective opinions. The person was not sure almost about anything they've just written and felt the need to follow every statement up with an "I think" or "I guess", instead of doing some actual research and writing truthful facts afterwards.

Alright, let's debunk this pile of crap:
1. "CPU may throttle under full load of Furmark + Prime95 or gaming scenarios, but only rarely."
The person in question used torture-test software for both GPU and CPU at the same time. There's no way any user would ever achieve such load on their system under regular circumstances and definitely not while gaming. If this reviewer provides proof that the laptop thermal-throttled while gaming (wanna see that red Yes from HWiNFO), I will buy them a beer. Hasn't happened to me in 1 month's worth of intensive gaming on it and won't happen because it's bull.
2. "8GB + 4GB DDR4 configuration seem to be deliver lower memory bandwidth, at least in Aida64 benchmark"
As @hmscott has already mentioned, 2 differently sized memory slots will not support dual channel. That's a fact, of which this reviewer seems to also be completely unaware.
Btw I've also ran a quick AIDA memory benchmark of my 8GB+8GB config: http://image.prntscr.com/image/21dce7ae27364a3faf5d377093a7cf38.png
3. Thank you for that irrelevant Star Citizen benchmark run from a Clevo laptop in the middle of an ASUS laptop review, much appreciated! http://image.prntscr.com/image/a5dbbc496c0d4997ac1dbfabbe02c241.png
4. "Asus ROG Styling too visible. What's up with that (And Alienware, and MSI GTs)"
Perhaps they should add another point saying "Keyboard letters too visible!!1!"
5. The person should probably use a tool that measures noise, instead of describing it with words based on their own opinion.
6. "Heavt ROG styling"
Heavy*
7. "The CPU and GPU are soldered too (as in many such laptops). I know most of the laptops are like this for years now, but so what – it’s only because they, the manufacturers and all the supply chain, can do it."
Brb still trying to decipher this sentence.
8. "Desktop are vastly more cost efficient and future proof."
Now they're comparing desktop computers to this laptop...
aand I've closed this "review" at this point.

On a more serious note: let us wait for an actual, professional review of this laptop. Especially those, that are trying to make a choice between this laptop and some of it's competitors. At least wait for something that hasn't been written by a 12 year old.

Oh and about the TN panel, it's already been discussed here a few pages back. It's not that bad, but if you really dislike it and can afford to spend an extra $100 for an IPS version, go for it.

 

Do you think his point about the faster GPUs coming out soon with the same price is a valid point though? I knew Nvidia has released the 1080, but there has been no word a mobile version yet right?

 

Latest word is there won't be mobile versions of 1070/80, they're going to be frequency limited desktop class chips.

When they land in notebooks, no one knows. But I'd bet that Christmas season would be THE soonest you'll be able to drop by your bestbuy and pick one up.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk

 

What's the one thing you would need to hear in order to buy last generation GPU's instead of waiting for next generation GPU's to come out?

"Next Generation GPU's aren't coming out"

Spoiler

That's essentially what is being said by saying that 'm' level GPU's aren't coming out in the form of 1080m/1070m's to replace 980m/970m's, and the only Pascal laptop GPU is the 1080/1070 desktop, with reduced TDP.

You would need to reduce the desktop GPU 1080/1070 TDP pretty far down to work in a slim laptop, or in a fat laptop that was cooling a much lower TDP GPU as a 980m/970m.

We really don't know what's coming out, or when, you can buy or not buy a Maxwell GPU laptop now. Game now, or wait.

The one thing you will do by buying a Maxwell GPU laptop now is losing $ on resale as soon as the Pascal version of your laptop arrives. So you need to factor that cost in your decision.

 

haha you have a point there. By the way how long does it usually take notebookcheck to review a new laptop? I'm really trying to wait for a professional review before buying this laptop but its been months since this model came out @.@

 

I don't think there're going to be any gtx 1080m laptop this year
or maybe if there're any, I don't think it's going to be quite cheap
if you're looking for laptop under 1500$, I think this baby is the best you could get

Been playing with this laptop for 1 night, I think it's quite okay. Playing dota 2 on ultra doesn't really make the laptop hot. And still waiting to test on some games later on weekend. Going to try with GTA V soon

 

Hey guys ... Does ExcaliburPC sell the TN version or the IPS version ?

 

Hey guys ... Does ExcaliburPC sell the TN version or the IPS version ?

 

Hello,
As far as I know, they sell the IPS version of the laptop.

Yes it's true there may be a version of this laptop equipped with the newest GPUs, but you might have to wait half a year for it.
And we still can't tell how the situation is going to look like, should they just decide to equip laptops with tuned-down desktop chips. They may have to be limited a lot, compared to regular desktop GPUs so don't immediately expect 980ti-grade performance in a laptop.
I'd also be concerned about the price, since Nvidia seems to remain alone on the mobile GPU market and since the new GPUs promise to bring a great performance bump, they might just set the pricing quite alot above your usual 980m laptop's price and I wouldn't be surprised if it just wasn't worth it anymore.

As I said before, I believe that if they release an updated model of this laptop with the new GPUs, it will also come in pair with a 4k screen. So if that's what you wish to wait for, go ahead, but know, that the current generation of GPUs is very much sufficient for 60hz 1080p gaming.

 

Wow damn, so our country version got the industrial nvme samsung m2 ssd and above average IPS Panel??? God bless Asus Indonesia

How about the speaker bro? is it good on High volume with no distortion?(istilah lokalnya: Cempreng ga?) And can it deliver low freq bass sound without subwoofer?

 

[EDIT] Didn't realise the review link had been posted few posts back


Anyway I've bought another laptop so I won't be interested in this anymore. Best of luck to everyone considering this laptop and hope you enjoy it

 

Mind sharing what you got instead of this laptop?

 

This may come as a surprise if you trace my posts a few pages back.... an Alienware 17 R3

I found a deal on a refurbished model last week that I couldn't resist no matter how I look at it. i7-6820HK, 16GB DDR4, 512GB PCIe SSD + 1TB HDD, GTX980M, for £1400 including 1 year warranty by Dell. That's cheaper than a GL502VT with the same SSD size, but i7-6700HQ and GTX970M instead. With the Alienware I also get the option of Graphics Amplifier or other eGPU since there's Thunderbolt 3. I've been thinking about it and couldn't find any catch that I'm willing to sacrifice my requirement for a slim and portable laptop, and with Pascal GPUs incoming I can't justify spending too much for a Maxwell, so it just made the deal even more enticing.

So far I've been very happy with it despite the size and weight, on the other hand I get better and more reliable cooling

 

speaker is bad. High and medium are Okay, but low is very very bad.
Worse than 300k worth of speakers (our currency).
but at least it does deliver sounds if you don't have any speaker at all (like me )
Ah well. I never really hope to get a good speaker on a laptop. It always sucks. It's always better to use external speaker

Whoa, good laptop. Glad that you get a better deal than GL502 . Wish I could buy a 17inch but light laptop

 

Why are so mad? And you know, you can talk to the person

1. Throttling graph for Ashes of Singularity is provided in the "throttling" section. Screenshots of Furmark and Prime95 too. link

2. Aida64 results are also provided there ( here). Also, as you can see in the results, you get higher performance than single channel configuration, but lower than dual channel

3. true, but probably a mistake from a previous review. No real critics value there

4. I don't get the point. I too don't like to walk around in the university with such a thing. If someone buys it, it should be considered

5. Why?

6. These things happen..

7. Indeed not very clear, but the important thing is that in most laptops, even expensive "gaming" laptops, that's the case with CPU and GPU

8. Ofcourse it should be considered, but again the it's not well written and the context is unclear. However, it was said in the context of eGPU and the fact there is no option for eGPU in this laptop. It is very important matter if you are going to by an $1500 laptop and I know that many people are interested in this aspect, including me.

 

Yes, it's there.. snipped from the results, under "summarized gaming performance" - but really, hard to find :\ Edit - link

 

i just read the notebookcheck review on this laptop, and they said that it does not support NvMe ssd's, can someone with the laptop verify that?

 

yes it does
Maybe if you read from the first page you will know more about this laptop

 

Hmm that is very weird then since I'm pretty sure notebookcheck used the exact same model that he bought.

 

1. Very strange for such a laptop to have a non NVMe M.2 port
2. The GL502VT/VY product page says it can come with a SATA 3 SSD or PCIe v.3x4 SSD - if it's the PCIe v.3x4 SSD, it's probably the NVMe. Don't think they are using the other one.
3. I think what they meant is that the model which has an SSD built-in, is SATA 3..

 

No they specifically said that it had no NVMe support since "it only had two internal storage bays". But you are also correct, I just checked the product page and it does indeed say pcie

 

Though according to this, the motherboard has "2xPCI Express x1, 1xPCI Express x16" bus. The X16 is for the GPU and there is no X4 for PCIe X4of any sort.. so, something is strange here and maybe indeed they don't have NVMe

 

You provided us with some graph from AOTS that simply shows what clocks the hardware components had, it proves nothing about thermal throttling. Neither has any gaming-related thermal throttling been recorded in the notebookcheck review.

While I do agree with everything else they said in the notebookcheck review (finally a good one!), I would beg to differ about the NVMe support, because my model specifically contains this SSD, which is an NVMe drive:
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/256gb-samsung-sm951-m2-(22x80)-pcie-30-(x4)-nvme-ssd-mlc-nand-read-2150mb-s-write-1260mb-s-300k-100k

And shows up in HWiNFO:

 

1. Who said thermal that it is thermal or TDP? If you have throttling due to the algorithm used by asus, it's a also a problem. And yes, it does throttle under Prime95 + Furmark probably due to high temperatures (maybe can be solved partially with downvolting), which means it might be in gaming too, if CPU would be more utilized.
You just smirked this review with no real reason. And with all due respect to notebookcheck review (which is a standard), they do have mistakes and do miss aspects of review not once.

2. NVMe drive doesn't mean it works at full speed. Can you please check what you have when you click "motherboard"? there should be specifications of the available PCIe buses

 

1. There is no way you would reach the same level of system-load of both GPU and CPU synthetic benchmarks running at the same time, in regular activities such as gaming. Ever.
2. I believe what you're looking for is in the Bus section here:


edit: just noticed how it says Slot Implemented: No, which is something irrelevant most likely, as it says the same thing when I click on the WLAN card, the iGPU or the ethernet port. So that doesn't mean there's no support for the mentioned parts.

 

1. nvm (not-e)

2. I meant the motherboard - it says what PCIe buses are there totally, can you please check? I don't have an NVMe SSD to test :\

 

I would love to help but I don't know how to check the motherboard.
Can you teach me how to do it ?

@fw85
how do you put the laptop on ergostand 3 ?
do you use the anti slip holder ? because I didn't really see big changes on my laptop. maybe wrong laptop placement :-/

 

we don't really check the motherboard, we just used HWInfo freeware (very useful). Run it, and go to Motherboard->Motherboard Slots. Right click on it and choose "copy result" or something like that

 

it said
2xPCI Express x1, 1xPCI Express x4, 1xPCI Express x16



I could provide you the full report but it's html file. Not sure if I could post it here :-/

 

You can zip it and upload it to some upload service- but no need for it.
Yours show that indeed it has a PCIe v.3 x4 bus - probably for the NVMe. It's not what mine shows. It seems I have a different version of the GL502VT. What's your full model name?

 

mine is ASUS ROG GL502VT-FY129T
Bought in Indonesia. There's only 1 type in Indonesia
And my SSD is samsung NVME MZVPV256HDGL-00000
I think that's the nvme that you meant.

 

My model has the designation "GL502VT-FY032T".

However, in the review on notebookcheck they used th e " GL502VT-DS74", which is also being sold on Amazon by EXcaliberPC in a configuration that features a 256GB Samsung NVMe SSD. So there definitiely is NVMe SSD support.
https://www.amazon.com/GL502VT-DS74...dp/B01FSARGXA?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0

 

Just show them crystaldiskmark benchmark of that samsung m2,look like this bro:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7181/samsung-sm951-nvme-2-pcie-256gb-ssd-review/index5.html

 

agan ber 2 dah pada beli kah ? gile dah pada tazir2 ini ber-2 :ngakaks

btw any issues u have till now ? notebookcheck says it has no support for NVME SSD, and they also says the temp was getting very warm at 61-70c on the top of the lapptop :hammer:

please info gan :shakehand

 

Well read 3 posts above regarding your NVMe SSD question and the temp is that high only in that one particular area above they keyboard, because that's right above the heat pipes. Not to worry though, you have no reason to touch that area during use and it's not like it burns your finger if you do.

 

yeah, i already saw that post, but i still dont get the point why notebookcheck just typo on that thing lol, and they just give this notebook 82% score, asus already done very nice job on this portable beast machine so think it can be more than that for the score...

 

Not yet, Im still saving money to buy it, if no other thing comes to expense, i'll buy it this month.

When first i saw it on the GL502VT introduction and spec , i felt this maybe the better build quality of Acer Predator 15, then when i saw the user review in here and kaskus, I stunned and really consider to buy this laptop. It has decent spec and build quality for a slim gaming laptop, good IPS panel in Indonesia and the 256 gigs of SM951 SSD on the default.

The cons really just the speaker, when come to temp it's really better then other slim gaming notebook and even the Acer Predator 15( the predator can reach 85 degree celcius on GTA V benchmark if i remember saw the review) .Oo....and one more, it has just only ordinary type C usb port, not the thunderbolt 3 port .

 

well..
it's slim, not heavy, of course the temperature is going to be quite high. But it's not that bad. You could use any notebook cooler. And also, I played some games last night to test, it doesnt take a long time for the laptop to cool itself down after I've stopped playing games. And fan is not really noisy. maybe as loud as macbook air

battery life is quite good. 6-7 hours only for browsing and coding from 100% to 10%. Which is very good. almost as good as macbook air that I used to use.

Aaand the good news is there're more video review on youtube. So you can get more reviews from more people. And I still think it's still better than acer predator because acer is more expensive with lesser ssd space (only 128gb ? or is it 120).

@fayth
no complain

And don't forget that notebook check use lite-on ssd (meh). Indonesia's version use samsung which could reach 2gbps read which is so damn good. Windows 10 booting only took 6-7 seconds.

But some people who wants to get external GPU wouldn't really like this laptop since there's no support for thunderbolt 3.
And I don't think I'm going to use external GPU because 970m is enough.I can run GTA V on maximum graphic (extra high, 1920x1080, all filtering on) without any lag. Never hit below 40 fps I think. And also I think getting more than 30 fps is already good enough, and getting more than 60 fps is not really noticeable to my eyes

I used to think that maybe it's better if I buy a laptop with thunderbolt 3 support (razer maybe ?), but then I'm going to spend extra money for the eGPU and also GPU cards. So that's maybe an extra 1000$ for a laptop which is quite expensive for me. If it cost me more than 2500$ for a laptop, then maybe I'll just buy a desktop because I need the laptop for mobility, not extremely powerful laptop that can handle everything

 

You could try downloading MSI Afterburner and overclocking the GPU a bit. Try +135Mhz for core clock, +400Mhz for memory, which will give you about 15-20% performance increase with just 2-3°C higher temps. I tested this overclock for a couple of days now and seems to be perfectly stable without even needing to increase the GPU's voltage. And the free performance bump is pretty notable too, and therefore worth it imo.

Also, I undervolted the CPU, as it turned out that its stock voltage was just pointlessly high, just as it was for it's desktop counterpart.
I used Intel XTU to lower the CPU voltage by -150mv right off. This alone cooled down the CPU by 4-5°C (while both CPU and GPU are under load), while maintaining the same clock.
Again, stress-tested this for couple of hours and seems to be stable.
I'm sure I could gradually knock down a couple more mv but from what I've read, I would probably go as far as somewhere around -170mv, which wouldn't be much of a difference compared to what I'm running now and I would need to invest alot of time to find the very lowest I can go. So I settled for -150mv, which should also be possible for every other i7 6700HQ out there to make it cooler and more energy efficient.

 

review by Dave2D, one of my favourite reviewer on youtube

 

I just ordered the GL 502VY-DS71. It is the version with 1080p display and GTX 980M with 4GB VRAM for 1699. Also included was a copy of Overwatch with a set of Overwatch cans. Onlything, I wish the USB type C was a thunderbolt version Wouldn't mind to hook the computer up to a 4k display and something like a Razer Core with a GTX 1080.
Well this will be my first Asus Laptop after my old faithful Asus V6000J Hopefully it will be as good

 

several good and fair review was already out on the youtube, check it out





let us cross check the reviewer and the user here lol , i saw from the video the tempt was very hot on the top of the laptop is that very annoying ?

@makjang & @mikroLED
kejang2 trs gan jgn mau kalah sm bule2 dimari

 

After reading this entire post, I decided to pull the plug and order the GL502VY-DS71 from ExcaliberPC thru Amazon.

GTX 980M 4GB RAM:
32GB DDR4 2133MHz (2x 16GB)
HD: 256GB Samsung 950 PRO NVMe SSD (Seq. Read 2200MB/s, Seq. Write 900MB/s) + 1TB 7200RPM HDD

I just received it today so I am still working on it. I will post benchmarks as I
run them.

 

whoa. Thank you!
Going to save this note for a moment and will try soon

well it's not annoying. It's not hotter than my morning coffee
it's only 70c on full load, so it's fine. My old desktop is even worse

welcome to the club!
Hope you like the new laptop

 

I doubt it. Temperature heat map shows it gets hot where hands barely touch. I. Excited about the battery life tho