Asus Scar II - GL704GW, i7 8750H, RTX2070, 144hz

I don't know if this fix can be good for every other like me. If since end of january your fan on silent mode profile are pulsating (all the time pushing from 2000 to 3000 rpm without never turn off on idle, or even go higher in idle than on use) i finally find the problem: is the latest armoury crate service 2.6.5 that auto installed on end of jan/begin of february (depends by when your armoury auto-updated on ms store). I uninstalled and rebooted this freaking service (not armoury application) and reverted to 2.5.8 from asus page of the laptop, rebooted after installed, e BAM, fans are again SILENT, totally passive on low silent mode with light operations! Now the problem is to understand if that service will auto-update again, and if iit updates if the problem was maybe a bad update process or is the new 2.6.5 itself.

We'll see.

Update for battery problem in my 704... actually i give up, i will just live with it, bypass the problem by chargin laptop every time to 100% when i know that i have to use outside home, because the instant discarge thriggers only on boot (rare) or reboot (9 times over 10) when the battery is at about 50-60% charge over some hours not charged. So i can live with it. The battery is brand new because it was changed on warranty assistance from asus on january, and not solved the problem that i think is or motherboard in some things, or some services by asus when windows load at login, because i can't reproduce the bug with some live linux distro's.

 

Update 2:
after few hours armoury service autoupdate itself to 2.6.5 again but this time fans are pretty much good working, they goes off in idle ass they should. So, i see it better and i found on windows power plans that turn intel hhd to "prefer maximum battery" instead of max performance, and turn "usb suspension" to on, they work perfectly even on 2.6.5. So if you suffer from rumping and high spinning set those two option like this and you'll be fine.

 

Guys big news here... i had under my hands a noctua nth2 flacon of thermal paste and i just not resist to repaste my 704... just cleaned and then replaced on cpu and gpu (keep the vrams with stock paste or you have to replace with k5 pro, this is not regular paste).

Before
cinebench r20 with undervolt: down to 3.4ghz, 2700 points, about 90-95° all the time
unigine heaven, rtx 2070 87° costant

After:
r20 with uv: 78°, 3050 points, 3.9ghz with 0 throttling
heaven, rtx 2070 75° (same score)

I'm just amazed. The paste was a good (but not the best in theory) noctua nth2. I used a bigger blob on gpu die, and a small blob on cpu.

 

Hello to all. Yesterday I got mine brand new GL704GW and it appears to be a defective one

After first boot up and some quick checking of how it works after I was about to turn it off I unplugged it from ac adapter and it whole laptop switched off. Now it turns on and works only while it is connected to charging brick. Battery shows 100% but works only when connected to the wall.

I updated bios, unplugged and plugged battery but nothing helps.

BTW - is it ok that programme for battery checking shows battery health at the level of 76% and maximum capacity of 50something instead of 60soemthing as a a
base?

Before I send it back do you have any ideas how to bring it to life again?

 

Awesome results. How much power was the cpu pulling during Cinebench R20? And can you please post the same (power, frequency and temps) without any undervolt as well?

 

it pulls all the time 70w after repaste undervolted...without undervolt i remember that it goes at about 3.5ghz power throttled but temps are still pretty much the same or a bit higher but pretty much the same, so undervolting after repaste just remove power throttling, letting the 8750h goes at full speed if no gpu load is present (with gpu load is hardcoded to goes tdown to 45-50 watt). Before repaste with the same UV profile it goes at about 2700 points but with a 88-96° degrees, with a 3.3-3.4 frequency, that without undervolt goes down to 3.1ghz and 2500 points.

 

just send it back to seller, is no good to let loose time if you can have a new one without problem... probably this is a defective motherboard or dcboard

 

I guess i should count myself lucky since i don't really have any issues? :S or maybe i am just too ignorant to see any

 

Okay so those are your results without the undervolt. You told me the results you were getting before the repaste. Can you also post results after the repasting was done, without the undervolt with power limits overrided to, say 100 watts using throttlestop? I'm interested in knowing how much power the heatsink can sustain, as without the undervolt and power limits boosted it will push the cpu as hard as possible.

 

with or without UV it still pulls 70w, because asus from factory is set to 90w PL2 limit (i didn't change anything watt related in TS, just undervolted in FIVR). The only difference is that without undervolt the frequencies does not go to the full 3.9ghz because is still limited at 70w (bios hardcoded even if TS or XTU read 90w max on limit) are just not enough, instead with undervolt they are enough to sustain all 6 cores to 3.9.

 

someone can share folder esupport? please guys. I have it but it is empty
[QUOTE = "gieffe22, post: 10992938, member: 401437"] ак я. [/ QUOTE]

 

man i dind'nt have it because when i sended on rma they just not copied on the new install of windows (it is here but empty).

Anyway esupport is just useless, all the drivers are on asus gl704gw drivers page updated and working...

 

I uninstalled asus FRQ control and cannot recover. I deleted it because I constantly have a fan from the GPU, for 2000-3000, in idle time, I don’t know what happened. Previously, only a CPU fan worked. Do you think this ASUS update ruined everything?

 

in silent mode? with latest armoury crate service 2.6.17 fan spinning is more reactive to temp and loads, so i think could be this.

Anyway FRQ control shouldnt impact on fan behavior. Use in silent mode during normal days, and be sure to select on power saving windows plan (the one used from silent mode) to have on selective usb suspension, and intel hd graphic power plan setted on maximum battery saving. With this 2 thing most of the time laptop is fanless. Other profiles are much more louder and rumping easy on fans.

 

yes. i think you right. thank you

 

Wow just saw 99 degrees for cpu. Doesn't it shut down automatically if it reaches 100 degrees? And this is with -88 mv to core and cache. Gpu maxes out due to power limit not temperature, thats with +145 overclock, around 85 degrees.

At least i am happy that i am getting the most from my system


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this is the reason for you fans spinning often. You want a tip? change your thermal paste with noctua nth2 on cpu and gpu (let the stock paste on all other chips that had paste).

I've done this abouth a month and a half ago and my cpu droppen from 96 with throttling to 3.3-3.2ghz (already undervolted!) to 80-84° without ANY throttling to full 3.9ghz boost. Even my gpu droppen from 87° (thermal limit) to 76-78°, basically i gained 10° in worst case to 15° degrees in best case scenario test.

Note: doing this void you warranty So it's your choiche. I've done because asus changed my motherboard 8 months ago and they "forget" to change the warranty sticker broken, so they dind't know if i repasted or not.

 

I actually did this but with arctic mx4 however i replaced all the thermal paste that came out when i removed the heatsink which includes vram ones. I shouldn't have done that? I don't think it's worth it to remove arctic mx4 and do it again with another paste, i am just not good with repasting anyway. I probably use too much.


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Is not a problem if you have used too much because when you push the heatsink down the eccessive paste Will go out of the chips... The real thing is that you have used mx4 that is just a cheap paste very good for normal laptop but not good for monster like this rog. You still can reuse Mx4 on vrms and vrams but on cpu and gpu you have to buy something good like noctua nth2 of kryounaut thats even better.
Just clean everything with isopropil alcool and then put a small blob of paste on every chip. Really small blob on cpu and a bit bigger on gpu.

 

Friends tell me please, do you have a silent GPU fan at 2000-3000 rpm in silent mode? Theses from 45-49 GPU. This is provided that the processor is undervolted, and the video card curve is configured. + Windows optimization, all the latest drivers are installed from the asus site. I have 24C in the room. Maybe it’s time for me to change the thermal grease, it seems high temperatures for downtime, almost 50 C.?

 

if the rtx is still active yyes, it's normal...the real questions is why your gpu is active if no other programs are using it? you have laptop connected via hdmi? or you've setted windows to use ever the rtx instead of intel hd?

 

She is not active according to nvidia minitoring. Look at the screenshot at the bottom right, it can be seen that it has gone out, and is not active. I don’t know what is wrong. Rebata please make a screen what do you have there?

 

Что именно беспокоит? Шум?

 

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Просто то что при использовании включается кулер от ГПУ а не ЦПУ (она попозже включается). Это как минимум неправильно. И видюха постоянно на 48-50 градусов.

 

это нормально, модель вообще очень шумная и проблемная в плане охлаждения

 

The gpu in HWinfo should stay at ZERO watt when is not used. If you have any other values, your gpu is active and used by some program

 

Guys I played control and I must say I am AMAZED. No, not the game. Game itself is extremely overrated. I don't know how it won so many gotys. Its a solid 8 nothing more.

BUT THE GRAPHICS and new DLSS2, it is beautiful. This was the first game I played with ray tracing(excluding deliver us the moon) and I must admit I severely underestimated ray tracing. After playing deliver us the moon i was sure it was just another stupid gimmick to leech on performance.

But this game has crazy reflections, mirrors upon mirrors where the light is dynamically reflected. I was even afraid of my own reflection a couple times. Everything looks so real it is unbelievable. I am not a graphics whore by any chance but I was stunned by ray tracing. I dont know if its related but explosions particles dust etc were also great.

And now on to dlss2. This was always on my radar unlike rt. The promises were too good to be true. Our gpu's have tensor cores which are supposedly machine learning cores that do dlss. We basically render at a lower resolution and then they are upscaled at a no loss. And with dlss 2.0 nvidia finally delivers. This thing is amazing and it will make sure our rtx 2070s will last for a long time. It increases fps by around 50% pretty much negating the RT hit and even more. This is possibly the best thing that happened in the last decade.

I played control with max settings around 50 fps, dips to 40 in heavy fights and smooth 60+ elsewhere. Gpu around 1560 mhz and it throttles due to hitting the 115 watt limit. I actually saw 119 watt as max on hwinfo but this is a momentary. Gpu load at constant 99%. Cpu around 90C and continuesly throttles due to heat(I cannot buy a new paste and repaste, its just too much of a hassle) on turbo settings. Game rendered at 720p(that you can further decrease) and upscaled to 1080p thanks to the beauty of dlss 2.0. My love to our powerful rtx 2070s have increased significantly. Our laptops are really beasts.

Yes I dont like cpu overheating, maybe i screwed up paste there idk. Maybe i will try noctua nt h2 in the future. But its such a risk and hassle doing the re paste I dont wana risk breaking my sweet pc. And idk how much of a difference it could make. Unless you use liquid metal(which is something i would NEVER do) But its a 6 core cpu in a pretty small chasis so it is expected, maybe i can tweak undervolt like it was before. But it really feels like a gut punch when i see blue screen it even makes a weird noise that feels like dying. Its not a big issue in gpu oriented games anyway. Only strategy games and things like m&b bannerlord(which is a much better game than control btw despite not having rt, dlss and shiny graphics)

I am just eagerly waiting for cp2077 with dlss 2.0 its gonna be amazing.


On another topic how do you guys use sonic studio the "movie" seems to be the best one. Isnt it? I just wish i could set chrome too on advanced settings. Even for spotify/music or gaming movie seems to be best. What do you all use, if use at all?


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totally true. Rtx is so good in control, probably the best rtx game so far. But the real thing is DLSS 2.0, i used it in deliver us the moon and wolfenstein and is a game changer, no quality loss and basically almost double to full double the framerate in performance mode.

Anyway, i loved control even as a game, it's my 3 favorite action of 2019, on 2 place i place shadow of tomb rader (photorealistic in many many places) and much better storyline, but at 1 the king is only one, RED dead redemption, graphic is par to SOTTR or a bit worse but the storyline and longevity of the game is just something else, this is on another league, like you really live the story of the game.

 

Hi all

Just wanted to say how useful I've found this thread for getting temps under control on my scar ii. I haven't repasted because I don't have the confidence, but with a combination of TS and Afterburner I have managed to get the temps down quite significantly on stock paste.

For me, a TS undervolt of 91mV is stable, any lower causes errors on TS Bench. I've also dropped the clock speeds by just a couple of points (so now 38 for single core and 36 for multi).

In Afterburner, I originally got it stable at 905mV for 1900MHz but messing about last night I'm now sitting on 800mV for 1700MHz.

Overall that gives me temps no higher than about 75 on the GPU and 84-85 on the CPU (with very occasional higher spikes) using the balanced fan profile. Pretty happy with that, and it's only knocked about 400 points off my all time best Firestrike score (managed to get 17294 chasing performance, and now sitting at 16890ish).

I do have two questions. 1 - I cannot for the life of me get Afterburner to display my gpu voltage - I can change the fan curve no problem but I can't actually see what the usage is. 2 - my Armoury Crate software won't recognise or pickup the CPU or CPU fan so I can't see speeds or temps through it. I've tried reinstalling to no avail. I've no trouble monitoring them through TS or Riva Tuner so it's not the end of the world but a bit annoying.

Anyway, just adding my experience for others who might be interested - thanks again to all those that have posted tips

Vyn

 

DON'T UPDATE to latest bios 309 on gl704gw, because it doesn't allow undervolt cause of fix for intel plundervolt.

You can find more here

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...lly-killing-undervolting-for-security.831309/

 

What the actual f??? I already did it!! Nooooooooooo I cannot do without undervolt. Throttlestop seems to be working. How can I actually check that everything is fine

Oh f oh f. HWinfo says SGX is present. SGX Launch configuration is also present. How do I check my undervolt is working as it should? IA Overcloking/GT Overclocking/CLR Overcloking all show voltage offset as 0 mv but I doubt they were different pre bios update. And my PC sounds too silent so undervolt seems to be working

 

Guys, GL704GW does disable undervolt. I stupidly updated fw to 309 then checked our specific subforum. Anyway I can flash back to 308 using winflash. It is very simple actually. I think it should work for ALL of the Asus notebooks. Download that.

Open cmd with admin privileges.
cd to where winflash.exe is
then enter Winflash /nodate

Doesnt matter the version this always works. It worked on my previous Asus laptop too.

However, now whenever I restart it says "restart needed to update firmware" or some bs like that. And whenever I restart it automatically flashes the recent bios. I updated to 309 using a bios installer, and that might be triggering restart to update thingy. After flashing 308 I rollback firmware driver in device manager which fixes the yellow warning icon it has but it still flashes new bios on restart. How can I fix this, please? There must be a flag or something that triggers that.


Figured out a way to fix it.

309=newest bad version of bios where undervolt is disabled
308=the one before that, uv enabled

1. Let the pos windows auto update to the newest 309
2. Restore system to the point before the 309 installation(windows makes one before the first installation of 309)
3.System will restart, but PC will be problematic(shutdown of Asus software), device manager shows the firmware as 308 but bios is actually 309
4. Prepare a USB with 308 in it. It should be formatted with fat32
5. Enter bios (it says it currently has 309) and flash the 308 fw. Thankfully Asus is "benevolent" enough to directly downgrade with their ezflash utility on bios.
6. Thats it. No weird shutdowns I even upped the undervolt by 5 mv just because I can. Now its -92.8 mv. My 8750h will thermal throttle slightly later now.

 

doesnt need to do this... symple uninstall from device manager software from firmware voice, download the old bios from asus site, and put on a fat32 usb stick, go in bios, ez flash utility, select old bios that you've put on usb stick and start flashing. A couple of minutes and all is done

 

What do you think of wifi and Bluetooth driver updates? Is it worth doing? Mine is on stock drivers


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yeah you can do it from intel site directly... sorry if i'm late but i have laptop on rma again fot that battery problem and seems that they will refund me even if they are so slow...i'm 10 days without laptop right now and still i wait paperworks to sign for have refund...

 

Wow i am so sorry to hear that. Such a stupid issue to have, what a shame. At least it's good that you are having your refund, right? So what will you do then, buy a different laptop? This topic will die lol.


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my laptop was plagued since moment i buyed...last may 2019 they changed 2 motherboards (don't ask me way, i think even the replacement was defective -.- ), then on january 2020 first rma for battery that didn't solve anything, and now 3 rma and they finally decided to refund me...but as i said they still not refunded me and i'm waiting for documents to sign for have refund (they are so slow in the process). Basically i am without pc from 10 june, and they said to me that will pass 20 days since i will sign documents... but at least i will end with those idiots. It was my 3 rog, but thge last for now, my first gl503vm was defective on screen (2 units replaced and then sended back to seller... i buyes gl703vm instead, and first unit come out with not working spacebar, sended back and finally i had my first working rog, that i literally loved as main pc... then last years decided to sell for good price and upgrade to 704gw, and i love this monster, but man...so many unreliability...i love this beast and if not was for those defects that pop out month after months i will say that it was my best pc ever easily).

Now stop, i'm sorry but my next laptop will not be rog, i will buy most probably pcspecialist vyper 17 for the refund price of my old rog, that have much better hw (10875h 8 core, rtx 2070 super maxp instead of stock 2070 non super of gl704gw). My second choiche is msi ge66, but if all go right i go for vyper 17'---

 

I got my laptop unlocked and i got all hidden menus.. auto undervolt in bios and speed Up My ripjaws memory from 2400 to 2800.. bios 308 unlocked by 239 genisis..

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Yea, its very justified. This is my second rog and never had any issue on both of them. Hope your new laptop works smoothly.

I will buy a new m.2 ssd i think. Stock 500gb 660p is not large enough. Is 970 evo plus 2tb worth the 70usd difference over sabrent rocket q 2tb?


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Hey guys.

Unfortunately I too ended up sending my device to RMA and had many issues with their service quality. Asus needs to get their **** together...

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earlier I had some issues with cpu boosting to max freq all the time, ended up solving it myself with speedshift on TS. Balanced mode(better performance) used to work like a charm but now its just like high performance and increases temperatures. So i changed the EPP on Throttlestop to 84 as its the default from windows. I wonder if its an issue with a windows update or something.

 

I don't know the reason my laptop after latest Windows 10 update is really slow and the fans are always noising...

 

Hi all,
hope there is someone alive in this Forum,
so I recovered a faulty GL704GW that i try to fix, and I need a vBios to flash it, I think it has an EEPROM problem. bcz it has code43 on the RTX2070 and some time when i try to check it with nvflash the eeprom is blank, empty and sometime its not.
did try to flash it with a uncertified vBios from the net, but im asking is someone can send me his vBios saved with nvflash.
here where am I now, so i need to test a "certified" vbios.

thx

 

Hi dear all.

My laptop is Asus ROG Strix Scar II GL704GV.

I decided to update Windows through the standard update system. So, together with the Windows updates, the Bios was updated to version 312 automatically.
As it turned out in this version, the possibility of undervolting is blocked, which is not good at operating temperatures of the processor. I decided to roll back BIOS to version 308. Everything rolled back well, the undervolting works.
BUT! After several reboots, the BIOS is updated to version 312 automatically by itself. No one asks me at all = (. Maybe someone knows how to deal with this? The Show or hide updates utility for Windows 10 (wushowhide.diagcab) does not find such updates ...
BIOS installation most likely begins before Windows boots. The BIOS installation file was saved somewhere in the system partitions, and each boot checks for a new version. But I could be wrong.

Please help! thanks