Asus Scar II - GL704GW, i7 8750H, RTX2070, 144hz

In RDR2 i get 90 degrees in balanced mode.. but i hate the noise so i will try 3 ghz as you said

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I thought benchmarks were enough for stable gpu voltage curve. I was wrong. Whenever i started playing outer worlds the game would immediately crash. Thought it was due to cpu turns out i had to decrease clocks for voltage. Even a 5 mhz decrease made games playable. But after couple hours it bsod'd. So another 5 mhz and again.

Not to mention gpu throttles at 86C anyway. It hovers around 1550 due to thermal limits. I really wanted to push to 1600


Also is it possible to make keyboards white and the led strip rainbow?


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I set league to be played using integrated graphics. 144 fps stable. Would recommend. No need to use rtx which would also prevent screen tearing. And you can actually play without using headphones/hearing jet engine.


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well of course IGPU let pc run cooler, 5-10 watt if i'm not wrong vs 115 watt of rtx 2070. Using IGPU is the best choiche for apps and older games. I use rtx only for photoshop and games (newer ones are out of intel gpu possibility by far ahahah, and some titles are challeging even for the 2070, like red dead or other heavy games)

 

I think this is a great laptop at this price thanks to rtx 2070. Why isnt more people talking about it? You buy rtx 2060 at a higher price and 9750h is not worth it at all. 5

Did anyone try changing thermal paste, is it hard? Worth it? I have arctic silver 5 but I used it first like 5 years ago. Do the thermal paste "expire" ?

 

i think that few people atually know that gl504 and 704 GW have FULL spec rtx 2070... many persons think that are all max q versions, so i think they buy the cheapest one they find or the pretty ones... actually this 704 is the perfect laptop (should be perfect if this had optimus switchable with gsync as zephyrus and a bigger battery, 80+ wh instead of the good 66wh, removing the ancient hdd bay for a second m2 drive and using the space for more WH on battery).

The only thing i literally hate about this laptop is wsad keycaps white (but i think that should be replaceble with normal ones buying on the web and removing carefully) and the camo thing on palmrest, if this was only fake carbon like the left side should be MUCH better.

 

today i just opened my 704 after 5 month to clean the dust... well there's a fair bit of dust especially near the fans, seems that i gained 1° compared to before. Is not a game changer but even 1° is a good revenue for a free clean

 

I actually use the hdd bay lol. I just need storage. Even 1tb is good enough.

The non white white backlight bothers me more than transparent wsad keypads i think. Like rainbow effect looks cool but it distracts me too much. So I use static white. But its not really white since it is done by blending all colors, especially on the edges.

They always do weird gamer tricks but most of them is stupid. The led stripe is genuinely good though.

Can cpu be bottlenecking rtx 2070 monstrosity? I keep close track of gpu stats and while playing fallen order at ultra setting the gpu utilization is like at 60-80% while there is clear room for improvement in terms of fps. But cpu thermal throttles. I am also using custom voltages if it matters. Gpu reaches the power limit faster than thermal limit. Surprising and good.

Also i ran prime95 for hours with no crush but a simple unpack bsod' me. I think its due to single core? I had to reduce undervolt cpu by 2.

My thermal paste should arrive soon. Looking forward to those paste.


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i'm playing too fall order...is not the cpu to bottleneck the gpu, it's the ****ing ram speed's that bottleneck both cpu and gpu in many unreal 4 games... unfortunatly that chipset doesnt support 3200mhz, that are needed to unleash more fps when cpu and gpu both work over 60-80 fps... our luck is that in the majority of cases 2666mhz are good enough to let games run at 80-110 fps.

I have the confirm in shadow of tomb raider, i have 86 fps maxed out 1080p but gpu bottleneck is only 77%, and cpu doesnt work hard, so the culprit is the ram... i have no problem because i'm a 60fps gamer, i prefer resolution over fps, when i can force games at 2k it's a glory for eyes (many engine can go internal resolution higher than the monitor ones) or when i play 4k on my 55 inch tv...

 

Hi!
Newbie here.
If i add 16gb more, can it help in games fps?

 

if your pc have only 1 stick yes because you are single channel, and bus is too little for this combo of cpu/gpu... if your pc is dual channel don't update, you have already pretty much the max performance that you can achieve from ram except if you run apps or games that needs over 16 gigs

 

i have just 16gb in a module.. so i will buy another one!

 

I see that makes sense. I guess its the same issue in games like tw warhammer 2. Gpu utilization isnt at 99, cpus are at 80c. Memory bottlenecking. Thats so sad. And we cant do anything about it.

Also I replaced the thermal paste, admit I am a ****ty thermal paste applier since I do it once every 5 years but damn there has been no change at all.


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seems that on my 704gw i'm able to undervolt cpu to -125mv on the core, and 80mv on the cache (before i used at 80mv for both)... doing this i'm able to sqeeze another 100 points on cinebench.

stock=2450 r20
80/80mv=2660-2700 points on r20
125/80mv=2800 points

This profile SEEMS stable on my machine (i tried 1 hour of gaming and different cpu stress test) but only time will tell if is perfectly stable or not

I already test other voltages, because on my 704 i can't go over 85mv for cache (error or crashed even at 90mv on cache), but on core i can go even over 180mv, but basically i think that this isn't effective because r20 point's is just the same as -125mv...so for security i locked at this freq.

Obviously i never repasted, this is with stock asus paste

 

I am getting some bsod. Uncorrectable error, equal or less and last one was store data structure corruption. It always happens during light gaming such as lol, hearthstone and not heavy load. I run prime95 for hours with no issue. Idk what to do. Do I undervolt the cpu less aggressive or decrease the curve for gpu? Or is it something else totally? It's always the ntoskrnl.exe that fails. I check it with blue screen view with minidump

 

try to use laptop temporarly without undervolt and curve, just to ensure that is something related to this.

 

I downclocked the gpu to 1320 on all volts. It still crashed during playing disco elysium. Is it the cpu then?


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just use pc without undervolt to exlude that is a hw problem...then if not crash try before only with cpu UV, and then only with gpu UV... if doesnt crash try with both combined UV

 

I am not sure if this is where to post for the Asus Hero 3 G731GW but I did a repaste of mine and wanted to share in case it helps anyone. I did kryonaut and thermal pads. Took me about 3 hours due to having to clean all the goop they put on instead of thermal pads.

Results have been great! Cinebench R20 went from 2500ish to 3000 due to no longer thermally throttling the CPU. In gaming results have been a drop of 10-15 degrees CPU depending on the game. The GPU hasn't dropped as much mainly due to the CPU being more unrestrained and the shared heatpipe I imagine. Still about a 5 degree drop however.

 

beautifull work...what brand of thermal pad did you use and which in terms of thickness? I plan to repaste next year my 704gw

 

I used Fujipoly 0.5mm 11.0W/mK. https://www.amazon.com/mod-smart-Fujipoly-Extreme-Thermal/dp/B00ZSJR2KE?ref_=ast_bbp_dp

I bought 2 of the 60x50 and one 100x15. I ended up with some leftover, about half of one of the 60x50. Probably would be fine with 2 of the 60x50 but in case you make a mistake in cutting it, it helps to have some leftover. I probably wouldn't buy the 100x15 next time as it is not that wide so only has more specific usage.

 

thx for info! Nice work man!

 

Okay i reduced undervolt on cpu by 15 mv and decreased the curve by 20 mhz on gpu. It is much better but i still get blue screens!

I dont get it at all. I finished the new star wars game without any issues. Played warhammer 2, no issues but this ****ty(graphically only, personal goty) unity game called Disco Elysium which has oil paintings as graphics is killing my pc?! Why? And when i get a blue screen its always accompanied with some scary ratting sound from the pc.


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Low load, means crazy high clocks due to how CPU and GPU clock boosting works, and it might show you instabilities, reduce your GPU clock more/give it a bit more voltage, or it might be the GPU VRAM OC that is too high.

 

Yea but it was stable during unique heaven which has 99% utilization.


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unigine is not a great stability test... some games are not stable, myself included when i was fine tuning my OC profile. So go down until is stable in the problematic games, same for cpu...

 

bad times here... my 704 has something odd with battery since last week. Radomly it discharge istantaneously, something never happened. It did 3 times on last week. Now i reverted to the old bios 307 of june, just to exclude something strange on the bios side but i doubt, probably battery has just started to damage itselfe (this tech on the battery is just so OLD and lack of stability).

Maybe on jan i will send laptop again on repair(2 time, first one motherboard)... what a waste of time...

 

I am really disappointed of the lack of support from ASUS... no more BIOS updates since months... already gone?

Dell is another planet, I never forget the support I had with my Alienware 13R3 also after years!!! No way, my next Alienware or GigaByte.

 

well latest bios have all security fixes for know branches, and on the hhw sides the 308 bios is really mature and well performing... so i don't understand what to update if all is go in the right direction?

Anyway guy's next week i will send my 704 on assistance, my battery problems are still here, i've done many tests on the sw side and none of those worked...so the only way is just to replace battery (should be on warranty, i hope they will change it and don't do just a format on the system, because i'm pretty sure that's not windows)

 

Lmao I dont even do BIOS updates. It has stock bios. It's just such a dangerous thing to play with. If it aint broke dont fix it, I dont like bios updates.

Anyway, I just realized the audio software for this laptop and its pretty good. I was complaining about the audio output and this fixes it. BUT it really screws if you dont constantly change it. I tried to setup manually for each app via the advanced tab but I cant change the option to set one for chrome. I either listen to music or watch twitch on chrome. For other purposes i think theater is superior to gaming mode but as I said it makes chrome sound very weird. So I have to manually change it each time. Is there any fix for that? I only want some gaming apps and vlc to use theater but it defaults everything to music ans i cant even change Chrome.


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sorry guys if i was lacking here... my 704gw is on assistance by 1 week as i said sometimes ago, waiting for repair parts (so slow this process of part sending on asus here in italy). I hope it comes back next week.

 

bad news here... so my laptop come back from assistance, they changed battery but the problem is still here. I think that's the motherboard that have some problem hidden somewehere, that manifest in this form with battery problem (some sort of excessive need of watts that kills the battery or maybe some bad restitor).

Now i'm again in contact with asus support, trying to diagnostics what's going on, but i think that they have less knowledge than me because they want only a battery ricalibration (on a NEW battery that do same behavior of the old one LOL) and battery report to analize it.

What a mess... i'm done with asus. They changed 2 motherboard on last april 2019 (after only 1 month from the buy of the laptop) because even the replace part was damaged (and i think that the mobo here is still faulty somewhere), they took laptop out for 1 full month at the time; now they changed battery for this new problem, and they took laptop for 2 full weeks, without solving NOTHING.

This is insane for a 2700 euro's of laptop (i buyed it on sale at 2000 euro's, it was the cheapest 2070 when i buyed), worst assistance ever. Horrid. I hope that this goes well but probably i'm stuck with a laptop with a faulty mobile experience.

 

End of story:
asus analized my battery report and for them 55% drain in 8 seconds is just "normal, depends by conditions of the sw needs". What a sheep that person is!

So, i'm tired to go on on this, can't resend laptop on assistance and stay out for another month because i use this for work, not only for gaming...so i will stay with a faulty experience. Fortunatly i use laptop on AC most of the time, so should not be a big problem for most of the time of my use...but what a bad tecnicians here on asus italy, horrid story.

 

For those of you who would like to lower your temps on the GPU side of things with lm. Please this mod it's simple and easy. PLEASE DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN AS YOU COULD CRACK YOUR MOTHERBOARD. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGE YOU MY CAUSE BY ELECTING TO DO THIS MOD.

Use the paperclip mod used on clevo laptops only on the GPU side!!! It worked for me max temps for me on GPU side is around 70c with lm applied and thermalpad 0.5mm running at 1600 to boosted 1900mhz with 800mhz memory oc. CPU dont pass 72 on full load at full turbo speed 4.1ghz!

 

and don't like LM on laptop cause of liquid spoilinq and possible corrosion of the heatsink (is by far demonstrated that after 6 to 12 months on LM the heatsink is slightly to highly corroded). Honostly i think that the best solutions here is by far using the best non conductive paste on the market (kryonaut, or GC extreme, phobya and so on) plus good thermal pads instead of this white mess that come stock from asus.

But, just for curiosity what is paperclip mod? where to find?

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...ctive-cooling-mod-for-p775dm2-p775dm3.803626/

 

nice tips but it seems too extreme to me... still prefer a good kryonaut repaste, having 85° but in safety. Those processor have not problems running at 85-90°, the real thing is let not throttle them... and for this job kryo is just so good... i will repaste next year i think...

 

I actually returned my laptop. The power limit is too low. I got me a cb0090nr.

 

power limit of what? cpu or gpu?

 

Both I noticed in my throttle stop and during gaming. My processor would drop speed and my GPU would up clock then my GPU would down clock and my processor would up clock but during these few seconds this happen my fps would drop in any game even wow to 12 to 20 fps!. That 230w power brick in my opinion isnt enough unless the board itself is probably power limited. I even had my CPU and GPU undervolted. CPU was undervolted 65mv and my GPU was at 1000mv GPU would hover 1945mhz and CPU would hit 4015mhz and was uber cool at 65-75 heat wise and my GPU would hit up to 77. They should have went with a 330w. Anyways I went with the hp cb0090nr after a return on the other hp because the 90nr was put on special for the same price as the 50nr. It has a 9750h (4.5ghz) And a full fat 2080rtx that I modded the vbios for 200w! Stays nice and cool and i never hit power or thermal limits. I super happy. It costed me 800 more bucks then the scar but it's all I need plus I got it with a 3 year extended warranty included that covers accidents. I got the scar for 1100. With a 2070 in it and a 8750h.

 

hp seems a real monster even compared to this 2070 full fat...

just for sake of curiosity anyway, the 2070 have 115w tdp, i monitor the gpu with hwinfo e afterburner, and basically it never throttle down designed 115w even when on my laptop it arrive on thermal throttling at 97° (probabbly bad repsating from asus assistance when they changed me motherboard because before i was getting about 7 degrees less). I don't think that's a understimasted charger, because i can game pretty much stable at about 3.4ghz and 115w on 2070. The strange behavior that you had when it loose 20fps seams like you was using silent mode armoury profile, that locks gpu at 75° thermal limiter, and in that case when hit 75° the 2070 throttles to retain that peak temperature. But if you balanced or turbo, it NEVER throttle under the design 115w (1440mhz) even when hit 87° degrees that is the maximum thermal limited of the 2070 bot desktop and laptop.

You can't hit 1900mhz on a mobile gpu, because tdp is as i said 115w, the desktop 2070 hit 1900mhz but at 175watt, and the full fat laptop 115w can't go as high because is limited from vbios, My maximus overclock (that's not real overclock as on desktop pc, this is more a fine tuning of voltages and frequencies thanks to afterburner) is about 1600mhz, basically almost 200mhz more than the 1440mhz that it should peak when there's a 100% gpu core load at stock.

How you mod vbios on hp? it's an easy thing that can be done on all rtx laptop?

 

I liquid metal both gpu and CPU and undervolted and overclocked gpu. I put fujilopy .5mm thermal pads on all vrm areas covered by the paste the company put Temps stayed at 75c max on both and cpu always hit it's intended 4.015ghz do to temps. I used throttle stop and it told power limit was a indicator of throttling. I blamed the power supply because even though its rated at 230watts you never get that full rating max you'd probably get is 90% efficiency which is around 200watt. Board alone will eat 40 to 60watts plus GPU 115watts plus CPU which if it stay at it's intended 45watts you'd hit a minimum of 195watts but CPU never stays at 45w. 330w plug would lift that issue. Nothing would starve for power.

The mod for the hp works because it comes with a 330w power supply. The 2080 is rated at 150w but can be modded to take 180 to 200 depending on what you want. I opted for the 190w it's a balance when sharing power with the CPU which allows my 9880h to hit its 4.6ghz on all clocks without it throttling since again I put liquid metal on both CPU and GPU undervolted them both and overclocked gpu. Plus the heatsink on this hp is no slouch. The mod was very easy to do. As the instructions are on here on this forum.

 

Hi everyone.
I am new here on the forum and unfortunately my first comment about this product is not very positive. I switched from ROG G73SW, used it approx 9 years almost without problems ... so the feeling from the first touch of this performance and speed was something magical ... only one disturbing thing was the noise from the fans on full load, but after some reading on the web I found out that at this price range/1790euro/ was nothing better at that time. I bought the GL704GW on 7. 31. last year, after a week I installed the second 16GB RAM from Crucial, 1 TB WD Blue SSD and of course I bought one headphone a ROG Delta ... after cirka 3 weeks of use it started to make problems, the left fan was randomly shooting up from zero to maximum RPM even in silent mode without any load and that all beside of 36 C degree of the processor and the rtx2070 card was turned off ... so there was no reason to increase the cooling.
Must say I like keep up to date the PC software, I installed every time new drivers etc. ... so I started to roll back everything , one by one, nothing helped. Restored, installed the windows from the hidden partition with old drivers helped for a while, 2 days maybe, but the problem came back. That was a sign, the problem is in hardware ... but man never knows for sure ... After all I dismonted the RAM , SSD , ... put it back, ... not helped ... again new updates was released, installed but the same situation so from old original 302 BIOS I was going straight to the 308 version and tadaaa what a wonder again nothing changed, after a few hours of use was everything the same ... with time it was worst, the left fan was non-stop on top RPM even if I was only in the BIOS ... on the web I found Info that if the fan connectors will be only reconnected it helps so after I did that for 2 weeks had no problems and again back in the chaos of high speed rpm ... so after time I sayd enough, let´s try RMA ... I get back my notebook after 1 week. Taked out from the box and started to read the RMA protocol ... shortly: We checked the notebook but the problem was not showed up, everything is in norm.
Ok? They reinstalled the windows and thats all ... so the first day I get NB back is the problem here again,yes only after a few hours of use ... now I made some videos about that and this way I have evidence what I can left on the desktop for the next RMA haha

 

How are you gieffe22 and how it is with your notebook battery problem? It is solved now?

 

I had similar issues with my 8750 version. I had lm on processor, kryonaut on gpu and aplhacools .5mm thermal pads on vrams and mossfets around the cpu and gpu. Machine seemed to have decent temps, so no warning on temps and yet fps would plummet on graphically intensive games. At first i thought that it must be power limit that the machine is reaching, but after awhile i started thinking that maybe the problem is on the vrams and mossfets. so i opened the machine an lo and behold some of the thermal pads on mossfets and vrams were parched and dry, while some where like brand new. It seems that the cooling unit is not truly even and so on some parts contact with pads and cooler is only partial, and so air gets on these pads and causes them to dry. Incidently if the contact is not good, the memory gets really toasty as does the the mossfets and that is the thing that caused throttling on my machine. After i swapped k5 putty to all vrams and mossfets and swapped to gelid extreme on the gpu(its much more suitable to laptops than kryonaut since it´s really solid compared to kryo witch is bit too watery for laptops imo) + kept the lm on cpu all the stuttering and lag spikes have been gone. Temps are awesome and the machine runs "relatively" quiet. Gelid even seemed to drop the temps on gpu by couple of degrees down.

So long story short if you have pads on these machines I´d swap em out and get k5 instead, its dirt cheap, works really well and must be easiest **** to put on computer, just goop plenty of it on machine and it does the job + you can reuse it if you need to do it.

 

no man, still problematic, i'm living with it just to avoid to resend laptop in assistance for another 3 weeks (here in italy they are slow). I kept chargin to 100% when i know that i have to use battery instead of using the left percentage that i had before sleeping

 

this is the only problem that never come out on mine unit, stock with stock paste. It's pretty hot (95 on cpu and 87 on gpu at stock without undervolt both), but it's NEVER throttling on heavy duty games (probably because asus use that paste from factory on vrams and mosftetss instead of pads)

 

Yea i think that is the reason they put that goop on the machine, guess they figured that they can´t make straight cooler . You really have had bad luck on yer unit, this stuttering and bad thermals/loud noice has been the only issue with my unit so far, but at least for last 4 months the system has been running really well. Alltough if I had knew this ahead of time I would have waited for omen 2080 variant that was on sale during summer for "measly" 2k on amazon, got my friend to buy that version and it has been awesome straight from the box.

 

Welp I winded up returning the omen lol I had bad luck the mobo died after having for little over 1 week. B&h has been great. I now have a g703gx (will receive it by friday) from asus with a 8950hk on it and a full fat 2080. It uses 2 power brick =/ not happy about that but the unlocked CPU is nice. I'm not happy about the LCD panel it's not thin bezzeled.. I gonna see if I can achieve 5ghz all core! Lmao.

 

Had same problem. Local service center ordered new fans three times before it got fixed. Fans/connectors I was told is the problem. Good luck man! Make sure your next lappy is not Asus, cause they are horrid.