Asus rog gx500

Some places offer customisation on lid aesthetics with laser etching or vinyl etc.

 

Yeah that's always an option along with custom colors. But you really have to be careful cause once it's on there's no going back and a picture can look great but when you get the physical product it could look really bad.

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Seriously considering sending back the MSI gs60 ghost pro 3k I have thats arriving in a couple days. As a user of a macbook pro for the past several years, the asus seems like it'll be a much easier transition from macbooks than the MSI would given the GX500 is reminiscent to macbooks in terms of the style and layout of the keyboard and trackpad. It is quite a shame that asus only put an 860m into the gx500 and i'm not sure if im willing to sacrifice performance and raw horsepower for a machine thats just alot more aesthetically pleasing.

Are the chances of asus putting an 870m into the gx500 slim? Theres also a zenbook version of the gx500 called the nx500 which I assume uses the same motherboard as the gx500 to cut down production and development costs, but restricts these notebooks to the maxwell GPUs such as the 850m and the 860m as opposed to the kepler 870m.

My real problem is that I question the ability of the 860m to run todays games on high to ultra setttings, let alone keep up with the much more graphically demanding games that will be developed and released in the next 2 or 3 years thanks to the new standards set by the next gen consoles? Looking up gaming benchmarks, the 860m can barely even reach 30fps on watch dogs on high settings, which makes me question the 860m's ability to keep up with games in future.

Also, assuming that the 860m in the gx500 is maxwell, is there the potential to overclock the chip safely due to the lower power consumption and temps to boost the performance or even match the performance of the 870m or will this be highly unlikely due to the limited cooling in such a thin chassis.

UPDATE: So I decided to go with my gut and returned the gs60 after 2 days. The keyboard and trackpad being shifted down to make room for the cooling vent was a complete dealbreaker for me - using it on my lap meant that either the laptop was so far out that there was a chance of it falling on the floor or it meant that my elbows would be so far back that it was overall an awkward typing experience. Also the trackpad was ridiculously rough, tracking on it was uncomfortable and scrolling was even worse. Hope asus releases the gx500 soon!

 

watch dogs is just crappily optimized, nothing wrong with the gpu. if you download the mods you get much better performance. watchdog is never a good benchmark because ubisoft legit didn't optimize anything

 

The current 870m/880m are Kepler, while the 860m is Maxwell. So no, you won't be able to put the current 870 in the laptop. Maybe future models if they use Maxwell, and even then only if the chip isn't soldered to the MB.

The 860m has been shown to run almost all current, modern games at high settings or above at 1080p. In addition, due to how cool it runs, it can easily be overclocked and perform on par with the stock 870m, with minor impact on thermals.

EDIT: Note that there are Kepler versions of the 860m still out there. So be careful, and inquire to make sure you're getting the Maxwell version.

 

Not to forget with a cooler gpu your laptop will last much longer which is a major plus. I'm really thrilled about this laptop. Even though I've been looking forward to the gs60 pro for a while now I realize that Maxwell is what I really wanted. I don't plan on 4k gaming, productivity yes but definitely not gaming, I don't mind scaleing down especially since it does it well at least that's what I've heard (since it's a 2:1 ratio right?). The Asus also has a larger battery than the gs60 and I think the' extra' power draw from the 4k screen will be negligible.

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Not even a 880M can game at 4K with decent FPS.
Yeah I was looking forward to the G60 pro too but it just ran way to hot for me and the fans constantly being on seemed very annoying even when only web browsing on lite work.
This seems like a great alternative, hopefully it's not too expensive.

 

And hopefully it won't have similar issues.

I read somewhere the price starts at $1,700. I'm not sure if that's with a 4k screen but if it is that's a steal!

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I wouldn't call having no msata + a little bigger + heavier a con since its the trade off to keep it running cooler with less fan noise. Although, the rest of those things are cons which is lame.... I'm still going to go with the Lenovo and possibly change out the TN panel for a different display

 

lenovo took out the msata for the subwoofer, which is not a trade off for cooling, and it does have much better sound quality than gs60, not to mention its fans produce lower pitched noise because of larger size. a concern for the fan noise of gx500 is due to its small form factor it will most likely use smaller fans, which produce higher pitched noise that can annoy people more even at a lower volume

 

This IS the gaming notebook I've been looking for, a 15" screen with NO numpad.

Gotta feeling it'll be expensive as heck, though.

 

Maybe I should wait for this instead of getting the Razer Blade 14.

 

My gut tells me it will probably be cheaper.

 

There is no doubt the Gx500 will be cheaper than the RB14 it just depends how much cheaper.
My guess under it's gonna be under $1500 maybe even more.
A good price point would be $1200-$1300 starting but then again I might be dreaming

 

Somehow I doubt it will be that cheap. $1200 is what the Y50 is selling for. If the GX500 ends up being as good as it's looking right now, AND was selling around that price point, the Y50 would cease to exist.

I mean, why buy a Y50 when you can get the GX500 for about the same price?

 

I read an article about it that said the company's reps said it will be around 1800-2000 depending on configuration. It's really unlikely to be under 1500.

 

I bet it will be starting at around $1500-1700... The Asus N550JK with similar specs is approximately $1500 anyway & with a thinner body and 4k screen the gx500 is going to have to be more expensive

 

N550jk is $1150 on Amazon. It was $1100 last week. If I had to throw darts at the price, base model will be 256GB SATA 1440p screen at $1500. Add $200 for 4k, add $100-150 for 512GB RAID and add $300-400(maybe even $500 if they use Samsung) for PCIe 512GB. I am really hoping to see a QHD screen option like it was rumored. That's something that you can actually scale properly and actually game on. If 4k scaled to 1440p well enough, I would probably take that option, but I have a feeling that res will be difficult to scale(hence why it was ommited as an option in the Razer Blade)

 

256GB - 1440p - GTX860 for $1500 would definitely be the sweet spot for me (1080p for $1300 even sweeter!). I don't think they will do it, tough. No one has confirmed they will offer a res. below 4K, unfortunately. My guess is it will start at $1800 with 256GB and 4K.

 

Looks like Bang and Olufsen audio with this one too. No alternate display options listed but Sep-Oct are their dates. Sorry if this was posted earlier - I just noticed it today.
GX500 - Meet The Coolest Ultra-thin 15.6” Gaming Notebook

 

I just wonder where is the place for the heat to emit, I dont' see any vents at the back of the laptop ???

 

Intakes are underneath and the exhaust is probably up the top between the screen and the keyboard. Similar to MBP and many other ultrabooks with discrete graphics.

 

Anyone know if this laptop will have a HDD slot too or is it going to be SSDs only?

 

It states that in order to reduce heat and size that it will only have SSDs

 

4 x M2 SSD's =)

This laptop is looking like the one I'm going to purchase unless I end up with a Gigabyte 35Wv2 due to it having 870m.

 

I don't think its 4 SSD slots, I think its x4 PCI-E lanes for the SSDs to use, so if you use one SSD you get the full 4GB/sec thought-put but if you use 2 you get 2GB/sec for each. That being said if this does have slots for 4 M.2 PCI-E drives that would be amazing, it would be the first device to have up to 2TB of M.2 storage.

 

I think we can say with certainty that it won't have 4 M.2 slots.

 

that's literally impossible

 

You indeed are dreaming - starting price $1899 - which is $200 cheaper than RB. It depends on what the disk size will be for this option, but given the 860m vs 870m I say its not a bad difference.

 

Where did you find that price?

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/asus-rog-gx500-packs-4k-151353573.html

Estimated 1799-1999

 

In one of the videos on youtube - in english by Asus person

 

So I've read that the battery is 6 cells and 96Wh.

The MSI ghost gs60 has a 6 cell and 52Wh battery.

My question is: since the asus is sporting a larger capacity battery (regardless of the 4k res) and maxwell, how much longer battery life are we thinking of here compared to the 3 hours of "normal use" the gs60 boasts?

If this laptop not only dethrones the others for thinnest laptop, but also the longest living (pretty much anything over 4 hours and 8 minutes of the RB if I recall correctly), it'll literally blow away the rest of the competition.

 

Should be close to +50-75% the MSI so easily over that 4 hours.

 

So is it confirmed that it's going to be either a September or August release, or is it possible for an earlier release?

 

Waiting is always the hardest part. So far there is no new news maybe they will release it before school starts for all those back to school sales

Found a review which has a lot of nice pictures
http://translate.googleusercontent....kJrhgyFP7HD3N_DQnOVVL3NAjWxGle0Q#.U7y9BtDD_qB

 

That's my hope...I need a laptop for college and I don't want to settle. It's either this or the P34G v2, which is a great laptop, but this one has a bigger screen and 4K which is nice for movies and whatnot -- I'm not just going to be gaming, and I don't know if I want to have a monitor with me just to be able to watch things.

 

reall, how much 4K-mateial is out there to be watched? and how close do have to sit in front of the NB to see a difference to a already fine resolution of a FullHD-panel?

plus: gaming at native resolution? good luck - even an GTX880M would struggle with that in most games. you will use FullHD (which is possible without interpolation) almost ALL the time for gaming, trust me.

 

Well considering a decent camera can take photos in resolutions of higher than 2160p I'd say a lot.
I'd say 4k is great for productivity and photo/(4k)video editing. 1920x1080 is exactly 1/4 of 3840x2160 so scaleing will be perfect. The panel also reproduces 100% ntsc which is incredible and beyond perfect for photo editing.

I agree 4k is just no good for gaming on a laptop.

 

You're forgetting that the color accuracy on this display is also phenomenal, regardless of resolution, which is a noticeable difference.

 

That's the beauty of a 4k panel. You can use it in 4k mode when you need the extra pixels, and you can use it in 1080p mode without interpolation when 4k won't work (gaming, running certain apps which don't work well with these high DPI displays). I do a lot of photo editing, so I'm interested in the high-DPI display, but the 3k displays offered thus far didn't really work for me because they were too low res (1600x900 or 1440x810) in half-res mode.

The Galaxy S5 already shoots 4k video. I think it's going to be home video which drives the push to 4k, not movies and TV broadcasts.

That's both a blessing and a curse. If you know what you're doing (photo or video editing) or simply don't care about color accuracy, 100% NTSC is great. But most pictures and video on the web are calibrated for sRGB (approx 72% NTSC). If you display one of those pics on a 100% NTSC screen, the colors will be oversaturated. Basically the problem Samsung had with its OLED screens exaggerating colors. It's great that the screen can produce those vivid colors, but it also needs to map those colors accurately to the pic/video being shown.

Most screens with a gamut larger than sRGB have a setting for sRGB and wide-gamut modes. You switch it to wide-gamut when you need the extra colors (mostly photo and video editing), and switch it to sRGB mode when viewing web content. Color-aware apps like Photoshop can deal with both simultaneously (i.e. correctly remap sRGB pictures to sRGB color space while in wide-gamut mode), but the vast majority of apps can't do this so you have to switch the screen manually. I agree with Asus that the industry (and the web in general) needs to move to a wider gamut standard like NTSC. But this screen is just the first salvo in that change. It doesn't instantly make everything "better".

 

While the S5 shoots 4k a proper camera at 1080p would still look way better lol.

 

If you are referring to video, Netflix is already streaming some of their content in 4K including House of Cards, Breaking Bad, the Ghostbusters movie and others. It sounds like you don't think there is a significant observable difference between an HD display of 1920x1080 and a 4k screen. Personally I have been very disappointed in the entire PC display industry for years for being complacent and setting for ONLY 1920x1080 or less on displays. I can't believe most laptop's screens are still LESS than full HD unless you opt for a higher end model. CPU/GPUs get faster every year, Hard disks keep getting bigger, but computer displays? Nah people don't need anything better than 1080p to watch movies right? It has been quite stagnant. I have to give credit to Apple for the first to bring their Retina Displays (on a laptop) to the market. Finally two years later the rest of the PC industry has started to make the shift as well. I would like to point out that even just reading text on the screen or on the internet looks a lot more crisp and clearer at higher resolutions. Sorry for ranting. Although I'd been in need for a new laptop for over two years I couldn't bring myself to purchase a laptop that has a lower resolution than my Nexus 10 tablet at 2560x1600. Finally I have some options to choose from this summer. I am quite excited about them.

 

I have to disagree with you there. PC's have been tied to FHD because of hardware limitations up until now. I honestly think we're still another year away and 4k on laptops are for the early adopter. With an 860M, you at least have a chance of playing older games at native resolution but you still can't play any recent ones at higher than 20fps. It's all been about the user experience and gaming laptop manufacturers have all decided that putting 4k on past laptops would ruin that experience. I can tell you from experience, 4k on laptops is a little more trouble than it's worth. There are still lots of scaling issues that you have to manually deal with. Hopefully they get fixed but it will take time(and some things are abandoned so they will never get fixed).

Comparing it to a tablet is just silly. Tablets run FAR less sophisticated programs on a linux kernel that was designed for scaling at any resolution. Of course the GPU can run those apps at that res - It's apples and oranges. Netflix just started streaming 4k a couple months ago, so it finally makes some sense to get one of the TVs. I'm still not sold that it's necessary on a 15" laptop - I'd rather have QHD 2k for now and wait for all the legacy apps to get their scaling issues sorted and for Nvidia to make a mobile graphics card to handle it better.

 

Sorry if I was not clear, my main concern was with the image and text clarity on the ultra high definition screen which we would all benefit from. Reading text on my high resolution tablet is much clearer than on my FHD laptop, so no, I don't think it's silly. It is a perceivable difference.

Of course at this time a single GPU is not powerful enough to run modern games on high settings at an UHD resolution. There is no reason that the games cannot be run at a lower resolution. Heck that is what XboxOne does right now! (it is my understanding to allow for a decent frame rate and good user experience some games lower the resolution to 720p instead of the full 1080p)

Finally the graphical stack in Linux is handled by the display server (X, wayland, Mir), mesa (for 3d), the desktop environment or window manager (gnome, kde, etc) and the video drivers (nvidia/ati/intel). the Linux community is working hard at this time to optimize their software for ultra high resolution displays. I imagine it is difficult to code for it until you have some ultra high definition screens to test it on

Good news though initial HighDPI support has already landed in the most recent Gnome, KDE desktop environments and even in my favorite window manager i3. Yes there will probably be some growing pains for early UHD adopters, but I expect the text/icon scaling issues to be smoothed out swiftly. Besides, the more users that can test and file bug reports regarding the high dpi displays, the faster we can resolve the issues right? :thumbsup:

 

Higher DPI is more important on a tablet. Because they can be used in both orientations, they cannot do subpixel rendering (where a white pixel can be rendered as RGBrgb, rGBRgb, rgBRGb, or rgbRGB - effectively tripling the horizontal resolution). Laptops are almost always used in landscape orientation, and fonts rendered on it (fonts are the best candidate for subpixel rendering) have approx 3x the horizontal resolution than you'd expect from the screen's pixel resolution.

So unless you're using an OS which doesn't do subpixel rendering (OS X's subpixel rendering is a bit flaky and often needs to be tweaked for best appearance) or have Cleartype in Windows turned off, I seriously doubt your tablet's text looks that much better. If the tablet has twice the PPI, that means text is rendered at 2x the resolution in the vertical axis, but only 2/3rds the resolution in the horizontal axis.

This is one of the reasons Samsung and Google are playing around with different subpixel layouts on their tablets and phones. Your eyes have much better luminance resolution than color resolution, so being able to light an RGB triad with subpixel resolution is more important than being able to light red or blue pixels at the advertised resolution. The traditional RGB stripe layout prohibits consistent symmetric subpixel rendering on a device which can be viewed in two orientations. While some of the Pentile arrangements allow subpixel rendering in both orientations.

As for 4k on a laptop, 20/20 vision is defined as the ability to resolve a line pair (luminance-only) 1 arc-minute apart. For a sheet of paper or screen viewed from 2 feet away, this works out to almost exactly 300 DPI. This is why you often see 300 DPI as a target for printers (higher DPI is used to create greyscale dither patterns while still maintaining 300 DPI for the grey "dots"). Half of this, about 150 DPI, is "good enough" for most purposes, but you can see slight improvements up to about 300 DPI viewed at 2 feet (phones can be viewed from closer, so the "ridiculous" 450-500 PPI screens do have some merit).

1080p on a 15.6" screen works out to 141 PPI. With subpixel rendering, this works out to the equivalent of 424 PPI horizontally, 141 PPI vertically. So FHD on a 15.6" screen is just "good enough" vertically, and beyond 20/20 vision's ability to resolve horizontally unless you stick your eye closer than 2 feet. A 4k screen without subpixel rendering would just about match 20/20 vision's resolving power in both directions. 4k with subpixel rendering about matches it vertically, but nearly triples it horizontally. And probably a 3k Pentile screen with subpixel rendering could match 20/20 vision in both directions. (3k of physical resolution, or 3x1920 subpixels horizontally. Samsung has been advertising effective resolution, so e.g. their "1920x1080" AMOLED screens are 1920x1080 in effective luminance resolution, but only have as many subpixels as a 1280x720 display. Specifically, green resolution is 1920x1080, but blue and red resolution are half that.)

 

I switch to read between my iPad 4 and my FHD laptop everyday, for a year now, and there is definitely, definitely a noticeable resolution difference from my experience, which is why I can't be more excited about this laptop, a laptop which would give me the same level of reading experience as my iPad, at the same time for some moderate gamining !

 

only apple would have the nonsense to put something they can't fully power. the problem with higher res two years ago is that none of the hardwares had the capability to fully support it. a gtx680 is basically today's 880m, and we all know how an 880m performs on 4k. apple went with retina because they know MBPs are never high performance in the first place, you just don't expect people to play games on MBPs. QHD or UHD even as of nowadays are for the higher end products, so back then when all the manufacturers know that their highest performance model is nowhere near the level to handle 4k, why would they bother with it?

apple brought up the resolution race just like how amd brought up the stupid on-board graphics race. honestly, there's really no need to jump to that high with resolution with laptops. not only the majority of manufacturers are skipping 1440p, which should be the trend now instead of 4k, they are also forgetting other aspects. higher DPI scaling has a long way to go, colors didn't get much improvements.

100% NTSC to me is a much bigger selling point than 4k. I don't think we would be ready for 4k yet until new maxwells come out along with all the scaling fixes at the very least.

that's completely different, being able to read off something that you are holding in hand versus facing reading off a wall is drastically different. it's more about reading position rather than the sharpness of text that affects reading experience the most

 

Actually, I believe the 860m is close in performance to the 680m. The 880m is even more powerful.

 

heibk201 is saying it's the same chip, not same performance.