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    Asus rog gx500

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by IKAS V, Jun 3, 2014.

  1. Oukami

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    Saw this on the nx500 forum
     
    Oukami, Sep 24, 2014
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  2. meowmeowmeow

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    yes mediamarkt has the nx500 listed for these prices
     
    meowmeowmeow, Sep 24, 2014
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  3. Derek712

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    What does the color of anodized aluminum have anything to do with heat dissipation? It's just a .002" thick oxide layer for corrosion resistance. The color is aesthetic only as far as I knew. Color only affects heat absorption of light, which as you said only really applies to the sun. If I'm wrong, please show me where you learned this.
     
    Derek712, Sep 24, 2014
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    In an active cooling system it won't make any difference.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 24, 2014
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  5. franzerich

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    Damn, would have been great, with new GPUs but then I saw this...

    What a bummer. That really turns me off. So they desperately want to sell the old GPU crap first before upgrading. No thanks, Asus.
     
    franzerich, Sep 25, 2014
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    Lol at that price i can't imagine many buying it; that's just shooting themselves in the foot by directly competing with apple's macbooks which sell because of apple's brand and hype, this won't, not at that price. The price that many of us will be willing to pay for this is somewhere around US $1600 - $1700 max for a fairly equipped model. then they can charge more for the much highly upgraded models and what not.
     
    GamingBound, Sep 25, 2014
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  7. Solandri

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    Color (particularly in the infrared band) affects emissivity, or how well the object radiates away heat energy (as opposed to conductivity, which would govern heat transfer from the raw aluminum to the anodized layer, or from the copper heatsink to the air being blown over it by the fan).
    Emissivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The ideal radiator is perfectly black.
    Black body - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The following is pretty close to the same experiment we did in physics class.
    http://littleshop.physics.colostate.edu/activities/atmos1/ColorAndCooling.pdf

    White dissipates heat faster than silver. And in the experiment we did, black dissipates it even faster than white.
     
    Solandri, Sep 25, 2014
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  8. Pustul

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    Interesting point but I doubt it will have a huge effect on cooling a laptop. Most of the cooling comes from cooling the heatpipes with fans not from the heat the laptop chassis emits.
     
    Pustul, Sep 26, 2014
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  9. Meaker@Sager

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    Yes in the thermal cooling equation of the notebook with the fans on it would be an insignificant term the engineers would discard when doing their calculations, lets put it that way.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 26, 2014
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    Narpa, Sep 29, 2014
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  12. nipsen

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    Oh, not more than that. >_-

    Not sure if serious or just dumb, asus.
     
    nipsen, Sep 29, 2014
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  13. Pustul

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    2500€ just lol
     
    Pustul, Sep 29, 2014
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  14. nipsen

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    Now, now. It probably comes with cocaine vouchers and a season pass at the massage parlor. I'm sure there is some reasonable explanation for this.
     
    nipsen, Sep 29, 2014
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    GamingBound, Sep 29, 2014
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    A single early shop listing is not a great way to judge the actual price ;)
     
    Meaker@Sager, Sep 29, 2014
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  17. Pustul

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    Pustul, Sep 29, 2014
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    Same price in all websites - 2499€.
    Same release date - 8 December.
    Coincide? I think not.
     
    esfomeado, Sep 29, 2014
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  19. SympathyRS

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    Nice, 2500€ for a GTX860M :eek: I hope this isn't really it, they should at least offer a better card (GTX970M-GTX980M) for the price or the price is just really ridiculous.
     
    SympathyRS, Oct 1, 2014
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  21. esfomeado

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    I will only give 2500€ for this pc only if come with a gtx 980m.
     
    esfomeado, Oct 1, 2014
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  22. SCARed

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    gx500 with an tx980M? :laugh: :laugh::laugh:

    this would either mean they can spare themselfs the keyboard backlite - because the hardware inside the NB would start to glow from heat ...

    or the hardware would throttle BIG time. and I mean, both, the CPU as well as the GPU. third option would mean jet engine like cooling under load. and I mean a REALLY high volume of air pushed through the NB - vacuum cleaner level or above.

    seriously: the GTX980M is the flagship of the upcoming NV-generation of mobile GPUs. thos chips are meant to be only used in very good cooled NBs like the MSI GT-series or Asus G751. or "bricks" like the 15'' Clevo gaming-barebones. no way it could work in such a thin and light NB like the gx500.
     
    SCARed, Oct 2, 2014
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  23. ganon4

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    I think the "bad" bet from asus is just that most people I saw in forums want this laptop and don't care much about the 4k screen since if they take this for gaming on the go with light form factor and can't play in 4k, the 4k become useless.

    For me, I like to have 4k screen for design purpose but if it will drop the price by 500$, without a doubt I'll leave that 4k screen for a 1080p.

    Asus should had let users choose but they just want to say "Hey look that amazing gaming laptop 4k with that slim factor" when yeah pretty cool but can't handle 4k gaming so.. :)
     
    ganon4, Oct 2, 2014
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  24. Travoli

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    I heard the new cards run cooler than the old ones, but have not seen confirmation either way. Do you have sources that show the new chips running hotter?
     
    Travoli, Oct 2, 2014
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  25. iaTa

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    Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-4710HQ,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. GX500JMC

    Check the spec and the model.
     
    iaTa, Oct 2, 2014
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  26. SCARed

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    Sorry, I still don't believe it. Check the Infos on the 980M on NBC - the TDP may be a little better than for 880M, but not that much. We are still talking of more than 100W and other thin and light laptops with only a 860M with its TDP of roughly 45W tend to get hot though.
     
    SCARed, Oct 2, 2014
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  27. Derek712

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    That's such a crappy score though... A little worse than the 870M on the Razer Blade. Why would anyone want to shell over big bucks for something so heavily throttled. The 960M would probably perform identically to that and run a heck of a lot cooler. I think that score came from a prototype or something and we'll never see it in real life.

    Edit: Also at the top it says Graphics card is not recognized. So it's going by the driver to identify it, which could easily be a shared driver between the top tier 900 series cards. I'm not believing it.
     
    Derek712, Oct 2, 2014
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  28. Oukami

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    What is the score for the 870m?
     
    Oukami, Oct 2, 2014
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  29. Derek712

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    I got 4240 on the GS60 and 4170 on the Razer blade
     
    Derek712, Oct 2, 2014
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  30. Oukami

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    On the fire strike extreme test?
     
    Oukami, Oct 2, 2014
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  31. Derek712

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    Oops, no - I didn't even notice it said extreme. I stand corrected then, that's a good score. Man, I always miss that... I wish they'd just name it something different
     
    Derek712, Oct 3, 2014
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  32. iaTa

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    Yep GX500 + 980M = yes please.
     
    iaTa, Oct 3, 2014
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  33. ArthurG

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    GTX980M doesn't exist, it's GTX880M
     
    ArthurG, Oct 3, 2014
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    heibk201, Oct 3, 2014
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    It does make a large difference, it is the same test though sort of. Surprisingly the difference tends to be the same as sli vs non sli. So a single card in normal scores around the same as 2 cards in extreme.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 3, 2014
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  37. CapitanShinChan

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    2.500€ is an insanity price for the laptop.

    4K screens are just marketing in laptops with 15" screen-size. I really prefer a 1080p anti-reflective screen, better battery performance and a really good cooling system. I was really interested in the GX500, but for that price I'm going to look for an alternative.

    Sorry for my English, it's not my native language.
     
    CapitanShinChan, Oct 6, 2014
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  38. sparkle999

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    Maybe. I'm seriously considering this one though. My 5DMk3 takes 22MP images: the high resolution plus the wide gamut on this one is seriously appealing. I had a 17" monstrosity previously and it's collecting dust now. Just too big and heavy to lug around. This has plenty of grunt for games. So, if it turns out it can handle the heat reasonably well and can manage a respectable runtime off mains for normal duties, then this could be the one....! Setting myself up for disappointment no doubts...! On the price front however, I am inclined to agree with you!
     
    sparkle999, Oct 6, 2014
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  39. sockfish

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    If I'm reading this right, it sounds like some notebooks will still come with the 860m and 850m. So it's entirely plausible that the GX500 could have a 860m still...

    At the top of the product stack, the GTX 980M and 970M replace the GTX 880M and 870M, while GTX 860M and 850M continue as the "mainstream gaming" notebook GPUs; 860M also continues to be offered in two variants, a Maxwell GM107 version and a Kepler GK104 version, though the latter hasn't been widely used.

    AnandTech | NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M and GTX 970M: Mobile to the Maxwell
     
    sockfish, Oct 7, 2014
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  40. SympathyRS

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    That could well be true, so the GX500 might actually come with a GTX860m :mad: I really wish it isn't though, especially for its "price".
     
    SympathyRS, Oct 7, 2014
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  41. Solandri

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    Looks like I'll be jumping ship as well. Asus HQ now says the GX500 likely won't be available until 2015. It's too bad - the specs on the GX500 were almost exactly what I'm looking for. If it had been available shortly after being announced in June, I would've gladly paid $2500+ for it. But I've been lugging around an external keyboard with my current laptop (with a busted keyboard) for nearly 6 months now. I can't wait any longer, I need to replace it.

    Gx500 - Page 3

    Also, unless the cooling in this laptop is miraculous, I really doubt you'll see a version with the 970m. Tom's Hardware is estimating the 970m as having a 95 Watt TDP. (nVidia didn't reveal TDP, but they did release a slide claiming ~2x performance per watt of Kepler. And preliminary benchmarks are putting it just below 2x the 870m which has a 100 W TDP). The Maxwell 860m has just a 45 Watt TDP.

    I'd been hoping the 970m would come in at 75 Watts which would put it in line with the Kepler 860m. A 25 Watt increase is plausible for a thin laptop. A 50 Watt increase is almost guaranteed to cause throttling. (Not saying it can't be done - the GS60 with 870m hasn't shown throttling. But its case is also substantially wider and deeper than the GX500, potentially allowing for bigger fans.)
     
    Solandri, Oct 8, 2014
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    The 970m will be below 100w (around 80w as far as I can tell) but that's still pushing it for smaller devices.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 8, 2014
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    It's true that 4K screens, just like Mac retinas, are just marketing in laptops with 15" screen-size, but I'm more intersted in accurate colors and 100% of adobe color space coverage.

    Almost all ( maybe actually all ) laptop screens you can currently buy suck. I would much rather pay $3000 for a laptop with a really good screen than same amount for a laptop with the fastest GPU/CPU combo and what's currently sold as screens. Speed is worthless when it all looks like crap.
     
    poskok, Oct 9, 2014
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  44. Lendari

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    Is this thing real? This GX500 was announced 4 months ago and there's already a whole new generation of graphics adapters out since the announcement. I haven't seen one vendor actually selling this.
     
    Lendari, Oct 9, 2014
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  45. rehv

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    See past pages... Yes it is real there's even a benchmark using it with the 980m
     
    rehv, Oct 9, 2014
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  46. Lendari

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    I can't find the 860 version anywhere... it doesn't show up on Google, Amazon, Newegg, EBay or Tigerdirect as far as I can tell it doesn't exist. There might be review samples, and youtube videos, but thats not the same as a mass produced device. If someone could post links to vendors who have this in stock for sale, that would be awesome.

    As far as the 980 GTX benchmarks. Do you know if this was an "official" machine or if they bought it with an 860 and installed a 980. Again links to vendors is super helpful.
     
    Lendari, Oct 10, 2014
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  47. siperiea

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    It's real in that it physically exists in the universe, but i think you're asking if it's been released to which the answer is no.
     
    siperiea, Oct 10, 2014
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  48. Lendari

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    I see. That's kinda the gist I was getting. Since the original announcement was over 90 days ago, you'll have to forgive my lack of faith. :)

    Vaporware - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
    Lendari, Oct 10, 2014
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  49. siperiea

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    If it hasn't been released, no amount of faith will help anyone find one in stock for sale. Once it is released the previews will turn into reviews.
     
    siperiea, Oct 10, 2014
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    I think it's best to wait until then if you can to draw any conclusions or get something else if you need a system now rather than waiting.
     
    Meaker@Sager, Oct 10, 2014
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