The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
← Previous pageNext page →

    Asus vBIOS V3: Everything but perfect PowerPlay

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by ziddy123, Jun 17, 2010.

  1. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    For me it would still GSOD unless i overclocked it. And if i used AMD Gpu Tool, after overclocking, i have to restart windows in order for powerplay to work again for me. Which is why i created my own vbios today.
     
  2. silvela

    silvela Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    107
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Well smile gerard...could u upload the vBIOS(viddys but with clock settings @705/1100) u js flashed ur rig with...How about the vga and hdmi did they work???
     
  3. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I created a new thread, check out my sig below. HDMI is working, vga i've not tested it.
     
  4. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    PowerPlay works fine. I dunno why he added that.
     
  5. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    It doesn't for me if i had to use amd gpu tool to overclock for a game.
     
  6. Freaxy

    Freaxy Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I think the thing that isn't perfect about powerplay is the fact that it doesn't go automatically. So you have to bind keys to set it to battery clocks if you're on adapter.
    Desktop card and I think the alienware cards too (correct me if I'm wrong) go to lower clocks if there's no 3D applications being used.
     
  7. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    my clocks adjust automagically
     
  8. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I set my powerplay high performance for performance in ccc and multimedia for battery. So when i want it down clocked, i just hit fn+space... That would work for except for the fact that i get gsod at 700/1000. Using amd gpu tool messes up power play for me. So i created my own vbios.
     
  9. Freaxy

    Freaxy Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    With the v3 bios? I can't get that to work :(
    I need to set maximize battery life and maximize performance profiles in CCC and bind them to keys. That way I can switch the clocks.

    I do that within CCC by keybinding profiles.
    Mine doesn't GSOD @ 700/1000. So I got the clocks at stock speeds.
     
  10. sgahertyuk

    sgahertyuk Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi, just want to check a few things, instructions at start seem incorrect in 2 ways...

    1.Your command says 'ati-flash' but ati program downloaded is 'atiflash'?
    2.Your command says 'stockv3.rom' but downloaded file is 'stockv3.7z'

    Probably stupid questions but being cautious and do not want to brick my laptop!

    Thanks in advance
     
  11. sgahertyuk

    sgahertyuk Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    12
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Sorry,

    Ignore previous figured both out myself. Did not know 7z was a type of zip file doh!
     
  12. jortex

    jortex Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    21
    Messages:
    58
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Ziddy, you are awesome! I have been 100% stable on this vBios and my HDMI works now!!

    Thanks a lot!!!!!!!!!!
     
  13. swaaye

    swaaye Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I have to say that it's somewhat astonishing that the BIOS on these boards does not have 2D clocks. I wonder why they didn't keep that functionality? There is definitely a temp reduction if you manually drop the temps with AMD GPU Tool....

    It almost makes me want to brick my laptop by flashing a full-featured desktop 5750 BIOS. Almost. ;)

    I have a few other ATI cards around, a 3850 and a 4670. Those cards have 2D, low-power 3D and high-power 3D modes. There's also a UVD mode again. That was really a nice setup.
     
  14. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    We do have UVD in our bios...
     
  15. swaaye

    swaaye Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    1
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    31
    I know. :) I'm just surprised that we don't have 2D clocks.
     
  16. BKoolReturns

    BKoolReturns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Ok, successfully flashed to Ziddy's vBIOS. Confirmed because OverDrive is now an option in CCC 10.7.

    HOWEVER, AMD GPU Clock tool reports my voltage as 1.15V, not 1.05V. What am I missing?

    Also, no automatic clock change when running 3D or video. It always stays at 700/1000. Chastity, you appear to be the only person with automatic clocks. :(
     
  17. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,044
    Messages:
    2,365
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    56
    My gpu automatically goes into UVD profile (500/1000) when i play a video in MPC... I use a modified stock vBios. Voltages however i think cant really be changed, even if you change the values in vBios, since as i tested the temperatures stay exactly the same with my laptop, which to me spells no changes in voltage and every program that can read the voltages tells me 1.15v. Just my observations though, i dont care much about undervolting anyway.
     
  18. Freaxy

    Freaxy Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    2D clocks and UVD aren't the same. UVD is for hardware accelerated flash and video. 2D clocks are for windows. This cards goes to it full speed (700/1000 by default) in 2D mode.
     
  19. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I read in RBE that each card has a certain range of voltages already set for them. But for us, we don't know what that set of voltages are. So what it meant was if the card voltage range is 0.8, 0.9 and we put 0.85, it will still be either 0.8 or 0.9
     
  20. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    If you want, my bios drops the clocks to 100/300. But you still have to manually set the profile in power4gear. But mine also over clocks to 705/1100
     
  21. BKoolReturns

    BKoolReturns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Ok so after a restart, my voltage is reading 1.05V in AMD GPU Clock Tool. Two hours of SC2 on Cat 10.7, no GSOD :) love this vBIOS so far.

    now if I could only get automatic clocks...
     
  22. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,044
    Messages:
    2,365
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Just switch to balanced when youre not gaming to get battery clocks, and if you watch videos it goes into UVD itself, but when you game use high performance to get the 3D clocks. Its not that hard to click twice :p.
    And dont get excited so fast with just 2 hours of playing. Youll be even more dissapointed once you run into another GSOD again...
     
  23. BKoolReturns

    BKoolReturns Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    2
    Messages:
    81
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    HellCry, please stop being a negative nancy! Its working, its doing what I want it to do, and I'm happy with Ziddy's product. I'm in agreement with Panzer06 on this one. I have no desire to do a bajillion consecutive furmark runs :p
     
  24. HeavenCry

    HeavenCry Notebook Virtuoso

    Reputations:
    1,044
    Messages:
    2,365
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    56
    Not talking about furmark, but it will probably happen again ingame as well as other people were at the start excited as you but later greatly dissapointed once they rain into GSODs again (myslef included, and ive tried every vBios clock/voltage i could think of and got GSODs in furmark as well as ingame, with some vBios settings its just less frequent is what i found out), just go through the threads and youll see. If such a simple mod as this vBios was a solution there would be nobody complaining anymore.
    Im not being negative, but realistic. Great that youre happy with it. Gratz.
     
  25. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I know what u mean, i thought this would fix mine, but it didn't. Hope your one of the lucky one's.
     
  26. CF-XXX

    CF-XXX Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    25
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    This vBios works super , I was very close to returning my G73 , I couldnt even run WEI without my G73 locking up when using ATI 10.7 The onlyway I could make it work was by using AMD GPU clock tool and OC the card to 705/1105 then everything would work great .

    Now I would like to ask some input on Bios update Im running 206 and would like to go to 209 Am I looking for trouble ?

    Also ASUS needs to learn how to make a light up keyboard whats with seeing the light under the keys bugs the heck out of me great laptop but ASUS needs to get there head out of there a$$
     
    Last edited by a moderator: May 8, 2015
  27. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    your power profiles may prevent your gpu downclocking. When I am in entertainment mode, my system boots to 200/500, uses UVD correctly, and will step-up to 700/1000 (or 705/1100 if Overdrive is enabled) in 3D mode.
     
  28. Landario

    Landario Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Hi :)

    Chastity thx for putting this stuff together.

    This is my first Notebook. So maybe you could give me a little help with those power settings.

    Usually i just leave the Notebook plugged in and it does not run on Battery and i usually use the High Performance setting all the time. Is it stupid to use it that way ?

    Also is it fine to use the Asus Energy Profiles or should i only use the standard windows ones ? And how did People "bind" them to hotkeys ...?

    Sorry for all those newbie questions, any advice would be appreciated !

    Thank you
    Landario
     
  29. boostedpgt

    boostedpgt Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    a BIG thanks for these. i finally updated to this the other night. then i updated to 10.7a. played crysis for 2 hours, while overclocked at 800/1100 and no problems at all. peaked at about 90 deg too.
     
  30. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    I usually leave it in Entertainment Mode, unless I'm trying to save battery life when unplugged. With more taxing games, I'll throw it into High Performance.

    Whether to use Power4Gear, I think the community has mixed feelings on it. I like it for having all the settings on one screen. But that's me. :)
     
  31. Matt.L

    Matt.L Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    Just coming back to report that after almost a month my G73 is still working perfectly on latest drivers using this vbios, and I play games on it almost all day every day. I flashed this vbios then overclocked by +20 on mem/core and now no problems at all running any game. Furmark runs fine too. It used to die after an hour of AvP, you could set your watch by it, now I can play for hours and hours. WoW, AvP, Borderlands, FF14 benchmark on 1080p for sixteen hours straight while I was asleep and then at work. It's fixed.

    HellCry = mad, though I still don't understand why.
     
  32. KRF

    KRF Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    12
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    I'll second this positive post. Been stable on vBios 3 with 705/1100 with only problem being high temps. A re-paste job fixed that. Runing Cat 10.7a. Playing COD2MW, WOW, LFD2, etc. with no issues (as long as OCed) Furmark now down to 88^C on 30 min. run (use to be 108+ before re-paste). Cross fingers, but I'm happy with my lappie.
     
  33. boostedpgt

    boostedpgt Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    another one here perfect after these vbios, i even had a couple GSOD on factory ASUS drivers even though hellcry says that it is impossible.
     
  34. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The only reason why u might not GSOD on this vbios is if you used overdrive. Other wise there really isn't any reason why you don't GSOD since it is exactly the same as the stock vbios at 700/1000 just a slight voltage decrease. So don't get your hopes up too soon.
     
  35. solrac13

    solrac13 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    87
    Messages:
    353
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hello Matt
    You say you can play hours of Borderlands??? I am wandering how is it playing, I am all in stock since purchase (6 weeks now) Never had an issue.

    But I have try this games wish are on my OK running games list!
    Prince of Persia running very smoothly
    Avatart also very smooth
    Prototype fine too
    Batman running so so, playable but no super smooth
    Aliens Predator so so too but acepteble

    And no ok list
    Bordeland running slow and grafiques are very bad
    Dragon of Age running slow too
    Metro 2033 running slow

    Do you guys think if i upgrade vBios and so on would make any difference?
     
  36. smile_gerard

    smile_gerard Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    25
    Messages:
    372
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I suggest you just wait for an official vbios to be released. It seems like there is a vbios being made at the moment by asus. So hopefully in a week or two something good might come out of it. Upgrading to this vbios only unlocks over drive and lowers the voltage and clocks. If u currently GSOD on your current vbios, then u will GSOD on this vbios as well.
     
  37. Matt.L

    Matt.L Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I play all those games and get great performance. Dunno what's holding you up. Make sure you don't have forced AA/AF in CCC, or something else that's unrealistic.
     
  38. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    I get 30-60 fps in Dragon Age myself. I usually set CCC to Application Control, and let the game do the settings.
     
  39. andi-bar

    andi-bar Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    1
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    hello,

    i want to install newest catalyst 10.7 but there are any problems if i install this driver.
    after install the screen goes wrong and the computer freeze.

    as solution i found this tutorial.
    i have flashed the bios with stuckv3.rom
    during this it shows me at OLD VERSION and NEW VERSION the same numbers. all numbers are the same.
    after restart and i start the GPU-Z information tool, all settings are the same as before the bios flash

    is it normal?

    are there another solutions for installing newest drivers vor ATI mobility radeon hd5870?

    thank u
     
  40. Junkera

    Junkera Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    hey guys!

    First of all, sorry for all the noobness, but this is actualy my first laptop... so here comes the questions =)

    Whats is the difference between flashing the Bios with the bios provided in this thread or flashing it with the asus support site bios!? I tried flashing with this one, using atiflash provided also here, but although it said success, the bios version in the bios didn't change. so I flashed with the asus one...

    also, i'm running the computer without power4gear, since I read some other users commenting that the twin turbo would only slow your computer down.

    last , but not least, i'm seeing a lot of you guys commenting on frequency, voltage and clock, but where do you change this? I'm running everything as stock, since i'm pretty much noob into laptops and all of this... any changes I should make?!
     
  41. notyou

    notyou Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    652
    Messages:
    1,562
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    Simplified: the BIOS ( NOT vBIOS) is the low level software that controls what your computer does. The vBIOS on the other hand tell the GPU what to do.

    You should not be flashing the vBIOS unless absolutely necessary since you do risk bricking your laptop if it doesn't work.

    As of right now, Asus has only provided BIOS updates, but not a single vBIOS update (though it appears they are working on it to fix the GSOD issues some people are having).

    Basically, since you're new to "low-level" tweaking (frequency/voltage for GPU), don't do it on a laptop unless you have experience with desktops (since they're easier to fix/replace parts if something goes wrong).
     
  42. Junkera

    Junkera Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    9
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I do have Experience in tweeking in desktops, but simple stuff, as clock speed for the processor. never tweeked memory freq. thing is, this bios does not support (at the bios program at least) this kind of tweeks. so I was wondering how everybody is doing it. I did flash the Vbios through the tutorial they posted in this tread. im not having Gsods anymore (apparently... wish I can keep it this way xD). i flashed the Bios through asus site, and the Vbios as i told you.

    Now I'm wondering, since i Didn't benchmark my system, if the Twin Turbo is something worthy or not, or if Should I tweek my voltage settings for taking out the most of the processor and videocard, because right now, im using it at the stock settings it got from all this flashing stuff.

    I am not using the power4gear software as well... since some users told in other threads it was useless, since windows power managment could do the same thing, and Twin Turbo mode was a waste.

    Last night I was searching the benchmark thread, and found out some stuff regarding the voltage multiplier with the twin turbo. they were saying that the TT mode did change the multiplayer from original 13x to 12x, and apparently were trying to figure out how to use that.

    My self... im not sure. All i did was using the windos grading system, with TT on and off. and off, i scored a better mark. awkard... Wish someone could give me some info on this.

    also, thank you all for this awesome forum!!
     
  43. Khaldum

    Khaldum Notebook Guru

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Working great for me as well, 10.7 Drivers and not one GSOD with slight OC 705/1050


    Thank you very much, Nice work.
     
  44. Splintah

    Splintah Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    278
    Messages:
    1,948
    Likes Received:
    595
    Trophy Points:
    131
    Just registered to say thank you. After updating the drivers to 10.7a and using this video bios I have played metro 2033 for about 3 hours and haven't had a crash yet. Granted before using this bios I had only had one GSOD so far. This has also seemed to remove the glitches/artifacting.
     
  45. Ex3beatnik

    Ex3beatnik Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    225
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    what version is the stock bios anyone know? 206?
     
  46. schockie

    schockie Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    124
    Messages:
    424
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Depends on when you got yours. Mine was on my doorstep the 7th of april, and it had the 203 bios. When you look now people are getting the 206 standard bios. So it rlly depends.
     
  47. Splintah

    Splintah Notebook Deity

    Reputations:
    278
    Messages:
    1,948
    Likes Received:
    595
    Trophy Points:
    131
    mine came with the 209 bios (got it on the 14th of this month)
     
  48. TnF

    TnF Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    31
    Messages:
    122
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Hi. I own a G73JH for about 3weeks, and i love it. It came with 209bios>>updated to 211 sucessfull and now running 10.8 catalyst drivers.
    I haven't got any serious problem yet, only some weird bsod and some , but some restarts and all are fine.
    Anyway i modded my stock vbios and i run it about 2 hours now and all stable:
    -Overdrive enabled(haven't overclock yet)
    -Changed powerplay profiles to some good ones
    0: 700/1000 1.15v
    1: 150/450 0.90v (dxva/video/UVD)-tested 1080p mkvs both uncompressed and h264
    2/3: 120/350 0.9v battery modes
    Hdmi tested fine/bored to test vga-99.99999999% also fine.
    btw when you flash through atiwinflash try not to move the mouse, close all apps, have power cord in. If you have FAIL error, retry...if it keeps try to re-flash stock, then restart and retry. Also if ***ing winflash doesn't opens(dunno why) flash it through RBE. And always use latest versions. And make backup of your own vbios.



    modded vbios:
    Download g73mod3.rar
    vbios md5: E048203D2E7FB660BB40324B18386983

    stock(aka asus new vbios):
    Download stockg73vbiostnf.rar
    vbios md5: 92EDBCAA12BED66E5EE56A800BB84C61

    Also could someone answer my questions so i can tune vbios a little more??:
    -Has anyone a tool that reads properly core voltage? amd clock stays 1.15v at all times
    -I heard about msi vbios(i have both new, old, and clevo's vbios) having 0.8v at idle-can you post vbios?
    -Can you explain why if i downclock to 150/400 by downclocking the core first works but both at the same time doesn't?(i think it has to be when i downclock to 150 i het 149.73 which works---how can i set it in RBE?/doesn't accept decimals)
    -Where from the gpu fan is controlled? mobo bios or vbios? Clevo has unlocked fan settings. Has anyone flashed clevo bios?-i assume hdmi/vga doesn't works

    Also keep in mind in 25 of this month i go to uk for studies and i will haven't go extra laptop. I don't wanna have to rma. I have 4670 on my desktop but i had another pci gpu card so everytime i bricked wasn't a problem. And i think when vbios is bricked pc, stays at Post. Maybe when you remove the card can pass post and make blind flashing. Can anyone confirm this?

    Thanks, TnF
     
  49. Chastity

    Chastity Company Representative

    Reputations:
    1,295
    Messages:
    6,545
    Likes Received:
    336
    Trophy Points:
    251
    @TnF: I take it you missed the sticky post about the new vBIOS?
     
  50. DCx

    DCx Banned!

    Reputations:
    300
    Messages:
    2,651
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    55
    My first one (april 10th) was 203 bios too. The replacement that came 2 weeks later was 206, I believe.
     
← Previous pageNext page →