BIG NEWS!! New Asus Sandy Bridge laptop G73SW IS COMING SOON!!

Do you have any pictures???

 

Should be mid Feb~March and only the 2630QM will be available.

Just a blury picture of G73SW took with my cell phone, both G73SW and G53SW look identical to the G73JW and G53JW:

 

Owh man,this is gonna be so costly to get a 2720QM..
Why $399 when the difference of price between 2720 and 2630 is only less than $50?

 

As we know from producer-to-consumer chain, the middle man (retailers) get the max profit, hence $50 from producer is, $399 to a consumer

 

Wow,well maximized *coughs*
It is sad though that Optimus will not be available for G53 and G73,sob..

 

Ken,
1. What processor in the current G53 lineup does the 2630 matchup against. 2. Any idea when comparison tests will be run?
3. Will they be against the current versus the new
4. Any mention of any other changes to the G53 or just processor?
5. How about pricing?

Looking forward to getting this in a few weeks.
Thanks, Tim

 

It performs as-good-as and even better than the i7-940 XM

 

Here is a review of Sandy Bridge processors (with another laptop) Review Intel Sandy Bridge Quad-Core processors - Notebookcheck.net Reviews

This is Notebookcheck's verdict : "We saw repeatedly that the i7-2630QM processor, i.e. the entry-level of the new quad core family, can outperform the hitherto strongest chip, the i7-940XM in virtually all tests. This impressively points out the success of the new CPU architecture, which largely exceeds the impact of simply higher clock rates."

I have to purchase a replacement for G51VX-A1 and am waiting for the SW series to be released rather than picking up a JW. Also, you can take a look at Mobile Processors - Benchmarklist - Notebookcheck.net Tech to compare the cpus.

Cheers

 

Really excited about the new sandy bridge G73s, but can someone who owns it help me out with this question?

I really like gaming on the coach (some simple civ 5 with the touchpad). Is the G73 just to big for using on the lap? Do i need to restrain my greed and go for the G53?

Also, how do you guys think the cooling will hold up with the new SBs? It draws a lot of power according to tests. I have had enough of fried Dell XPSs in my lifetime.

 

I'm expecting a lot of hardware and software problems from the first gen sb.cpu using notebooks.
They were pushed out on the door without too much work put in them.
Just take whatever they can from prev. gen computer and sit new cpu in them with as less work as possible.

And LOL what is the point of having a cpu with integrated gpu when the notebooks can't even use it ... guess they cut the time out that it takes to implement it

Pushing mid end gpu in 'high' end gaming notebooks .. they cut back a bit on redesign the cooling parts so they can't put any better in them without the case melting ?

Will take at least half a year until they can put out a 'new' notebook that actually worth to buy.

 

Even without optimus implementation, it seems like there is still some battery improvement to expect with Sandy Core CPU, as shown by this 2h54 endurance : Asus G73SW-A1 and G53SW-A1 Benchmark 3dmark short review - BTOforums.com

 

Windows just show you a remaining time from current consumption.
Deeper tests with BatteryBar would be more interessting.

 

$399 for an upgrade from 2630QM to 2720QM with G73SW. HP, Clevo, Alienware, all of them charge $170 - $200 for it. To pay $200 for the work to change CPU is little too much imo

 

i wonder if the g73sw 3d will have glossy screen or matte screen like its earlier jw3d brother? bcuz g73sw has glossy. any info, much appreciated!

 

Well,I think it's that expensive because ASUS G73 and G53 are hard to disassemble, so they charge more. Those laptops are just too neat, the screws must be taken off from below the keyboard.

I'm just quite dissapointed that G53 and G73 won't make use of the Integrated Graphic Card, kind of a waste.
If I'm not wrong, Alienware MX17 and the rest of the newer laptops from Sager and MSI are going to implement this Optimus feature so that gaming laptops would be taken to a newer level, less power consumption which means longer lasting hours, wee!!

 

The M17x r3 is not going to use Optimus and the Intel IGP.

Also if you notice on this page:

Dell News from CES: Streak 7 Tablet, Venue Smartphone, Enhanced Dell Stage and More - Direct2Dell - Direct2Dell - Dell Community

It states that the new XPS 17 "i7 version now supports Optimus, unless configured with the optional 3D FHD panel – this uses the discrete GPU full time".

So I would guess that Optimus or more likely the Intel IGP doesn't play nicely with 120 Hz.

 

Source please. I know yesterday the UK site was advertising 6hrs battery life, which would mean Optimus is being utilized.

 

The P67 chipset which the M17x r3 is going to use doesn't support the IGP.

Mobile Intel 6 Series Chipsets - Technical Documents

Intel 6 Series Chipset Datasheet - Page 51.

EDIT: Scrap that looks like the Dell press release was incorrect (surprise) and it has the HM67 chipset which means theoretically it can support the IGP.

 

Then when will we see gaming laptops with Optimus?

It might affect the Ultra light and portable series laptops' market sales,but I believe many gamers would love to have a longer battery life laptop when they are not playing intensive games.

I've been waiting for the G53SW but sadly,no Optimus,sigh..

 

You'll probably see it with a gtx460 equipped m17r3

 

Is this true? Anything above 4hours battery is VERY welcome in my home And hopefully they'll be 15inchers too!

 

The M17x-R3 for sure uses the Intel IGP and offers switchable graphics when the GTX 460M is selected. The chipset employed by the M17x-R3 is the Intel HM67. You can get all the info. about it in the AW forum.

 

Sorry to go off topic but, no switchable graphics if the 6870 is chosen? Switchable graphics is pretty huge factor for me to decide on a mobile gaming rig. And I don't think the 460 GTX is better than the 6870. That and I don't care for 3D gaming, just screen quality.

That price point sure is tempting though. I like the design better than the chunkier G53/G73. If it's similar pricing in Canada I will consider it against the few ASUS models I'm comparing, one being the G53SV.

 

I don't think switchable graphics works with the 6870m right now. The user manual for the M17x-R3 states that it uses optimus to switch between the integrated intel and the nvidia 460m. Why don't you like the 460m? They're about equal though I'd give the edge to the 460m. And yeah the price point is very good, more so if you know how to get your hands on the proper discounts. Take a look at what I configured:

 

The G73 is bigger than the M17X? I think its pretty thin and not chunky at all.

Anyways I just picked the first 2 websites i pulled from google searching "g73 dimensions" and "m17x dimensions"

I got these results:





8.5lbs

	Asus G73	Alienware M17X
Height	1.8"	2.1"
Width	12.6"	12.7"
Depth	16.3"	16.0"
Weight	9.68lbs	11.68lbs

Id say based on that the G73 is quite a bit thinner and lighter.

Also when it comes to price I have never seen an alienware product even close to what Asus costs but out of the states I guess pricing may be different.

 

M17x-R3 dimensions:

Dimensions and weight:
Computer Model
Alienware M17x-R3
Dimensions
Height
Front
44.5 mm (1.75 inches)
Back
45.0 mm (1.77 inches)
Width
410.0 mm (16.14 inches)
Depth
304.0 mm (11.97 inches)
Weight with 9-cell battery and optical drive (starting at)
4.26 kg (9.40 lb)


As for pricing, see above. Dell is famous for discounts. If anyone wants the M17x-R3, wait on EPP to get it, they have automatic 10% off for EPP or 16% (or more) if you can get a Boeing discount. This new M17x is a direct competitor to the Asus G73 and HP Envy and isn't AW's flagship system. Since the G73SW supposedly lacks switchable graphics and doesn't have HDMI In like the M17x-R3, I think the M17x-R3 is clearly the better choice. Why buy a SB notebook that's 17" if it can't utilize the integrated gfx? Dell claims the M17x-R3 can run as long as 6 hours on battery.

Edit: One last thing I want to point out: The M17x-R3 will be upgradeable to the 6970M (and possibly 485M) in a few months once the card is available. Since the AW uses MXM 3.0b, it's simply a matter of buying the new card from Dell (or Clevo) and dropping it in the system. Asus AFAIK does not give you such an option and likely won't support the 6970M.

For those that are curious, I've also attached a photo of the M17x-R3's cooling so you can compare it to the G73.

Also promotional video showing what it looks like and features. It's easy to see that it's got a similar profile to the G73 and likewise is confined to a single GPU:

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HDMI in? thats pretty cool. I hope that catches on with other brands. Not something I have a use for but I have seen a few post here and there asking how to hook a video game system to the laptop screen.

Sadly even after all these discounts I think it would still cost more than the G73 and the G73 is sure to come configured much better stock, the AW systems get very expensive very fast when you start upping the stock configuration to match what a simple G73 stock configuration looks like.

 

Hi guys! I thought I'd let you know that I've started the G73SW Owner's Lounge and I'm slowly putting in stuff as we go. Please be patient as I'm not a professional benchmarker and there is bound to be errors and oversights:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-reviews-owners-lounges/547044-asus-g73sw-owners-lounge.html

 

G73SW-A1 just released on xotic for $1792!!! heck yeah Im gonna get it ASUS G73SW-A1 - XOTIC PC - ASUS Gaming Laptop ROG

 

Here's a quick excel sheet I made, it was a bit rushed so that's why it's cluttered:

 

The AW I can configure on Dell's site with same parts as I can configure the g73sw - intel 6300, 8gb ram, 2 x 750 gb hdd, fhd screen, - comes to a total of 2419 dollares

 

Unless I am wrong, I remember reading in a forum that it has the same LGD02C5 screen as the G73JW-3DE, which is matte.

On the other hand, as for the G53SW-3DE, reading that the newly revealed (CES 2011) Asus lamborghini VX7 15.6" has 1920x1080 screen or optional 3d screen at 1366x768 makes me assume that the G53SW-3DE will also feature a lower resolution display, just like the G53JW-3DE

The 6870 performs less than 5870. Considering that the 5870 and GTX 460M were in the same performance range, one giving the edge to the other depending on the game played, I am not so sure that the 6870 outperforms the GTX 460M.

 

Strangely, there are some discrepancies in your figures, according to Alienware's own site.

Height: 51.31mm to 53.59mm (2.02 inches to 2.11 inches) – Front to Back
Width: 405.89mm (15.98 inches)
Depth: 321.31mm (12.65 inches)
Weight: Starting at 5.3kg* (11.68 pounds)

 

Those are for the old M17x. Dell just copied and pasted the old dimensions and weight specifications onto the new site. Joker's numbers are from the user manual. I guess I'll go with the 460 GTX once it's finally out for us Canadians .

The reason I didn't want to before was because I thought the 6870 was at least as good or better than the 5870. Quite odd that they decided to make it a slightly weaker card. Perhaps thats why ASUS is also using the 460GTX only as a step up is the 6970 which would ruin the price point.

 

It's easily clocked back up to a 5870 spec though. I wonder what else the 6 series has over the 5.

 

Damn, second generation i7s already. This always happens, buy the top of the line laptop then months later, something pwns all over it. Damn, would love the extra power.

edit - but a gtx 460m? why? And I noticed people still calling the company ati. Isn't it just amd now?

 

Surprise! G73SW-A1 shipment arrived today, I'll run benchmarks and test some games today.

 

Excellent! Looking forward to seeing how this stacks up against the older G73s, particularly in CPU-bottlenecked games.

 

Here is the Vantage score with Physx disabled, CPU score is much higher than 740QM's 11661:

 

We received a few G73sw-a1's today too. We took them right out of the box and ran some benchmarks on them. Here are some detailed images of 3dmark06,Vantage, wPrime, and CPUID/CPUZ/HWmonitor(idle). 3dmarkVantage does have physx on but does not have any overclocking. We will run some OC on it next and post our results.

By the way forgot to set my thread count to 8 on wPrime. Reran the 32M and got 10.67 seconds. Reran 1024M and got 343.528.

 

hey joseph, can you run tmonitor and wprime together.
want to see how high all four cores run. thanks
CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting

 

The first-gen i7s have been out there for quite some time (at least 2 yrs)... And these i7s' architecture remained closely similar to the earlier Core series... So it is high time Intel came up with a new architecture to address the bottlenecks....

But I wouldn't be too much worried if I had a top-of-the-line first-gen i7 - you wouldn't notice much of a difference for next 2 yrs at least...

 

Sorry T-monitor does not support this processor yet. Got an error message that says "processor not supported". Both CPU-Z and wPrime do not pick up hardware yet very well on the new chip. I'm sure new versions will come out soon enough.

 

hummmm.. what about hwinfo?
HWiNFO & HWiNFO32 - Hardware Information and Analysis Tools

http://www.hwinfo.com/download32.html

 

5150Joker, Im interested in the m17x price-point now that it is seemingly trying to compete with the G73s. However, so far I have found EPP very confusing (as how to sign up and get discounts), I do believe I can get into EPP thru my college or friends/familys companies. From what I could tell on the EPP site the coupons look horrible atm, and I couldn't find anything useful. Any insight on how to get some discounts or is there just nothing good being offered atm?

 

Also, calling in (instead of doing it online) will get you an even bigger discount

 

AW M17X has HDMI in?But y would we want a HDMI in for when we usually HDMI out to a bigger screen which is much better?

Anyway,how's the temperature reading for both G53SW and G73SW? Improved a lot?

 

so you dont have to cart your tv on a trip with your ps3 or xbox...that's why.
works great to play at a friends for a all night gaming session as well. quite a few good reason to have hdmi in...grabbing video content as well might be a good one.

 

So what's cheaper? A mx17, or a G73/G53?

Is Optimus fer shizzle in the mx17??? If yes, then I'm getting it for sure. Bye bye Asus for not having such an important feature in my life. Also, I've played with the G73 at BB several times. It's not that big. I'm 5'4" and the shelf/table that it sits on is taller than I am. The lappy is up to my neck, and picking it up that way, it's not that big, so nothing to worry about, folks.

 

HWinfo32 does support the new processors: