G50V - 9700m GT overclocking

Signifigant...GTA IV went from unplayable at native yes to enjoyable.l

 

What is the maximum temperature when 9700M GT runs at that speed ?
I used your 705/1770/920 BIOS ROM and GPU-Z to log the temperature, after long time playing some games I checked the log file and I found the maximum temp is around 90-94. So wonder is it safe to let my 9700M GT run at that speed. Can it run at your speed. Moreover, I prefer to play in native resolution (1680x1050) do you think that resolution significantly increases the temperature? I hope i can force my VGA run at your speed

 

it very slightly affects it for me. 87C tops on full load. in part, that's due to living in a cold environment (room temp atm is 18-21C).

 

anyone want to try this on win7?

 

a bios mod will work on any device that relies on the bios; in this case every OS.

 

Even though my graphics card and cpu are on stock settings I should be getting around 5700 on 3dmark06, like most the problem, i did some tweaks on vista that were advised and yes I noted the system was indeed a bit faster, but you see, when I run 3dmark06's benchmark, instead of at least getting the regular 5700, i only get around 5200, that is right after defragging (did that yesterday) and other clean up things.

Anyone got an idea as to why i'm only getting that? (3dmark06 settings are the default ones.)

 

wrong thread. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=3dmark06+scores+lower+than+usual&btnG=Search&=

i still need someone (running vista/7) to confirm with rivatuner that on low 2D the mem clock is 600.

also, if someone's running 7, can you check if you can use ntune and 169.04 to overclock?

 

I have 7 installed. 7 64bit

you mean if it's possible to overclock WITHOUT biso mod with ntune and 169.04 drivers? or WITH bios mod?

 

the mod is just changing the default clocks, so either will work (as long as its going over the default). since it's using vista drivers i doubt it, but it's worth a shot.

 

I tried with Windows7 64bit and either the 179.29 official nvidia for notebook beta drivers and with the dox's 181.20 drivers to overclock with system tools 6.03 but no luck. As usual only the shadres can be overclocked. What else could/should I try?

 

nothing else really. everything that didn't work most likely won't work with 7, as it uses the same drivers. so a bios mod is the only option.

 

ok, so I am confused...

I unistalled my drivers from within explorer and asked me to restart in order for unistall to take effect. When I did my resolution became really big, windows rating for graphic performance dropped to 1.0 and hardware read standard generic video adapter. I downloaded one of ur files, to c:/ and did what you asked. Ez Flashed from Bios. Now, what do I do? Am I supposed to install the drivers again or modify something else?

 

yep. install the newest drivers from laptopvideo2go.

 

Can you increase more in memory clock? i know DDR3 can get better OC clock speed. What is your highest mem clock you can get? now i'm running at 725/1000 (core/mem) do you think the mem clock can be higher? if so can you make a bios for me. thanks

 

I am really worried to modify the bios...
so far with the directo console overclock and the shaders setup at 1850 I reached 6300 in 3dmark 06....
How much more can be reached with the other mods?

 

I'm sitting at 6600 in a rather unoptimized Vista. Only reason I can't go higher is because of the stupid Singapore climate. Have gone as high as a whiff under 7k so it might be worth it for you.

 

@riky: i've gotten 6989 with 725/1800/1015 and xp pro 64 (stripped down and optimized to the max) WITHOUT directconsole
@dorekofu: never tried going to the max because of ntune killing my system (and then thinking i may have done something). 1050 was easily achievable, i don't know if it was stable.

i can't provide checksums, since EZflash doesn't see any new files on my hdd's (could be since i did some NTFS tweaks, namely the
disable last access/edit times). done the same method as the others, should be safe.
undid the regedits, and still cant see any new files... old stuff is read just fine. anyone had this before? (i know its the wrong thread, but i figure the most bios flashing would be from the people here )

it doesn't read them from C, but now decided to start reading from D. odd, since i didnt change anything other than a cold boot... ahh well. 720/1800/1040 had something like CE35 or C3E5 or something like that.

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Releases B

720/1800/1020
720/1800/1040
720/1800/1050
720/1800/1060
720/1800/1070
720/1800/1080

http://www.zshare.net/download/541319572bdab10b/

Like usual I take no responsibility for anything done as a result of using the above info etc. etc.

 

thanks, i'll check for stable.

The good new is it can run stably at 725/1800/1050(hope the mem clock can be a litte bit higher). But how can you get 6989 mark, i only get 6667 on Vista 64bit. What driver version did you use?

 

xp pro 64, stripped down to the bare minimum (and stopping all unnecesary services). 185.20.

all thats needed on xp 64 (server 2003):

-DHCP (is you use the net)
-Event Log
-RPC
-Audio
-Security Accounts Manager

(make a shortcut to shutdown -a to be able to cancel the autoshutdown after killing the DCOM process)

 

I have 6607 Score on 3dMark06 default settings on Vista using 725/1800/1000


edit/* My 3dMark06 score using win7 is 6623 with the same bios, and no cpu overclock at default settings (free 3dmark version). if anyone cares....

 

I can play Crysis well with medium to high detail, no problem.Got artifact in Brothers in arms Hell highway. Does anybody get this problem?

 

could be the driver.

Dox' 181.20 had some shading issues on cod4 (in particular, the side wall of the building on Broadcast, as visible from the roof). nvidia's 178.23 had no issues, 185.20 doesn't after a cold boot, does after restarting cod4.

 

second the wall on broadcast. Just saw it, not a big deal tho.

 

Hi there !
I plan to use Thalanix overclocked Bios, but i'm wondering :
- As I'm under vista 64, I'm unable to find my maximum settings with rivatuner. So which speed combo should I use to be safe ?

 

705/1770/920 should be stable on the majority of cards (if not all), so you can use that as a staring point. run furmark (or a graphically intense game) to test temps and stability. flash something higher if everything works.

if you get stuttering after a cold boot, that means the temp is hitting 95. artifacts should be fairly visible, and if 3d stuff crashes it's clocked too high.

some stuff to note:
-test every game you plan to play, not just the benchmarking tool
-bootup clocks are 275/500/400 (3d low), so no worries if it isn't stable
-each step up is 1/5..1/3C

edit: updated the guide to include the standard way of bios overclocking (for vista users)

 

i know im double posting, but everyone using my bios should read this.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/378/1004378/why-nvidia-chips-defective
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/947/1013947/nvidia-should-defective-chips
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/374/1036374/nv-should
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/052/1050052/nvidia-chips-show-underfill-problems
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/400/1038400/nvidia-g92s-g94-reportedly

this includes all the listed chips, and mostly likely every die that comes off those fab lines. the 9700m is most likely one of them, even if its a G96. if people still want custom-clocked bios, im always here, but i would highly advise against it since it greatly increases the chance of killing the gpu (with warranty void). 2d sectors might be still good, so not completely SoL. if you can software oc, that would be the single best way to do it.

and a little offtopic; ezflash requires 8.3 names to read, so anyone with the NtfsDisable8dot3NameCreation registry tweak should remove it (= 0), reboot, reextract the bios, and readd the tweak after.

and using the pll found in the tweaking thread, i can run prime95 stable @ 3.1GHz, 1.15V, 61C, or CoD4 stable @ 3.05GHz, 1.15V, 65C. GPU stays near 85. 500MHz is a decent overclock to boost your 3dmark06 score (even if it doesn't make a difference graphics-wise)

 

Who knows how deep Nvidia's troubles go, but don't worry about it too much, for the G96 at this point at least. It's too new for those problems to show up yet. You're right for advising everyone to take a serious look at those articles though, especially the last one. There is something seriously bad going down with Nvidia's fab and/or engineering.

 

but then i have to post a teaser as to what could be D:

7088 on xp pro64, 185.20 drivers, 725/1800/1044 GPU clocks, 3003 MHz CPU. without hardware monitoring (and firefox+photoshop), maybe even a defrag, and that could have been over 7100.

(the CPU could go to 3.3GHz+ running prime95, but stuff randomly crashes)

 

C'mon man go for 7100! Defrag that mutha!

That is sick tho. One day I am going to have to fry this thing.

 

7096
so close yet so far...

temps are 60+ CPU and 87-89 on CoD4 with the above settings. usually above 30fps outdoors (70+ inside) @ maxed settings, native res.

 

Only 87~89?! Wow... I wish I was wherever you are.

the inq isn't exactly a reliable source... In any case, 2 or 3 year asus warranty should be plenty enough.

Just download a bunch of speeds and test them out. run any benchmark or game for at least an hour and then check your temps. As long as they don't go much over 90 then you're fine.

 

Thalanix,

Basically, you are saying after 2 years when our warranty expires my gpu will die on me? Because in that case I would rather OC it more in hopes it dies sooner, maybe get it replaced before my 2 years are up. Also, in any case, anyone think Asus is going to do anything about this issue like Dell and Hp are? giving extended warrantees to those affected or a recall or something like that i guess.

 

Hi again...

There's something i don't understand about Thalanix clock speeds lists :
- Why are there 2 differents lists ? The advise of taking 705/1770/920 speeds for a safe overclocking meens picking the first list, so what is the purpose of the second one ?
- What is doing the "95 treshold" ?
- What is doing the "200 mem fix" ?
- The last edit comment by Thalanix says "Separated XP/Vista steps ". Where are these steps (I'm under vista 64) ?

I'm sorry for those questions, but I don't really want to fry my card
Many thanks !

 

i'm not saying it will die, im not even saying it's affected. but it "four board partners are seeing G92 and G94 chips going bad in the field at high rates", and the 9700M (G96) is just a higher clocked 9600M (G94), theres a chance that they're using the same fab line and the same faulty design.

if it becomes an issue, probably not. i haven't heard of extended G1S warranties.

the lists just include different clocks. someone asked for higher clocked mem, so i uploaded some using core/shaders that are stable for him.

originally, the temp threshold was set to 105. i changed it to 95 (for obvious reasons)

in rivatuner, on low 2d, the mem would always jump to 600MHz. i couldnt get anyone to confirm it, but i had that problem with vista 64, xp 32, and xp 64. changed it to 200, and rivatuner read 200 (meaning it wasn't read wrong)

it says "Vista" or "XP" above the instruction lists (and theyre numbered separately)

toronto's summers can get especially hot, so i'll be going lower soon might as well get as much as i can out of winter. prime95 @ LFFT's for 3 hours, CPU @ 3.05GHz/1.15V doesnt cross 67C.

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edit: if i underclocked the 2d step (in decrements) to juice out an extra 10..30 mins of battery life, would someone test it? i dont have much time for benchmarking/testing now that the term started.

 

Thank you for you precision, Thalanix.

On a side note, I can confirm the 600 mem Mhz clock on low 2d...

 

if anyone gets the sound-of-doom, i may have found a solution. this also has to do with the no-sound-when-post-explosion-disabled (even though ive never had that problem).

using http://www.sonicspot.com/guide/wavefiles.html as a guide, module FA contains the sound. if someone wants to take a risk, i can remove the module and create a bios image without or using an empty wav file.

 

Well... Did I do something wrong ?

I uninstalled nvidia drivers (+cleansweeper), flashed the 705/1770/920 bios following the guide, reinstalled 179.28, everything is fine, I notice the new speeds, and a improvement (~200 3dmark06, now 6000). Temps are far below the one I had before (before flash : max 83°, after flash : max 77°, in 3dmark06)

I decided to flash with the one step higher bios, but without un-installing / re-installing nvidia drivers. And then, I have BSODs in 3d, 2d, on the desktop, all the time.

I revert back to 705/1770/920, reinstall drivers, everything is fine.

Does it mean that I should uninstall nvidia drivers before the next flash, and then reinstall ?

 

3 possibilities (in order of likelyness):

1) drivers
2) card can't support it
3) you nuked your windows install (don't say i didn't write to back everything up )

you might need to remove any trace of "nvidia" from the registry and maybe even uninstall the video card via dev manager (make sure the Event Log service is running). if any of the above fail, you can always do "Boot Last Known Good Config." from F8. this restores the registry based on whats written in the log files during the previous shutdown.

and it it's the nv4_disp infinite loop BSoD, you can count on a windows reinstall

 

When uninstalling video drivers and running Cleansweeper, I'm asked to delete every nvidia drivers including sound, but I'm only removing the graphic driver. Should I remove everything nvidia related ? Meaning sound drivers are part of the graphic driver ?

And if I have to reinstall windows... Well it may be the time to say goodbye to vista... Xp g50s seem really faster than those under vista, is it just an impression ? I can't pass the 6300 limit, even with a clean and optimized os, and I see others with 6500-7000 scores...

 

They shouldn't be. Only remove the Nvidia graphics drivers (NOT the chipset). Consider reinstalling your sound drivers while you're at it.

 

Big thumbs up thalanix! A healthy 1000 points more in 3dmark here. Everything works like a charm!

 

NiBiTor 4.8 now supports the 9700M vbios. from what it looks like, the default .89V can be raised to 1.05V (couldnt find the address for it, so big thanks to the author). if anyone whos running low clocks with a lot of headroom for extra heat wants to try, let me know.

 

Hello there again.

I'm currently using the 730/1800/1020 -- B33E bios without any problems and temps max out at 85C. Was wondering if you have any bios laying around that has higher clocks than this, I could try it out. Cheers!

 

give me some numbers + bios version, and ill have them done.

 

these are isane clocks

 

I am insanely jealous...

 

Okay let's go for 740/1800/1040. I reckon you can apply these VGA clocks for the newest bios (210) as easily as for the 209? If so, I prefer the newer bios Thanks alot for all your efforts, thalanix!

 

http://www.zshare.net/download/552109165e2fd303/

bios 210,

740/1800/1040
740/1800/1060

 

changing the voltage to 1.05 seems to have lowered my temps a little (from 86 -> 84), but that means the stock is 1.16V, which is not in the VID table. it also could mean there are other/higher voltages, but i dont want to risk my machine to find them.

as for people who want higher mem clocks -> if a game freezes (could be 5 mins in, could be 5 hours), its the mem thats clocked too high. if there are pixel artifacts, its the core. if there are triangles, its the shaders.

 

Okay I tried the 740 bios now, but I get some noticeable stuttering in GTA 4 and 3dmark score stays about the same - this means that I reached my max OC? I'm used to getting artifacts when I clocked my desktop rig too high, but this is not the case here. Not one single artifact anywhere. In any case, thanks for the bios and the peace of mind thalanix