G50VT 9800M GS Overclocking?

Has anyone overclocked their T9400 with setfsb? If so can you help me as I have only ever overclocked from the BIOS.

 

Its not possible, theres some kind of blocker on there. I tried and as soon as I take it above standard games restart, sometimes the whole PC! I was really annoyed.
Has anybody ran vantage with the new GTS clocks? I only got 2680ish for GPU, wondering if that was about right or not...

 

Crappy. Oh well 2.8ghz keeps me happy!

 

Can someone please post a working link of the latest DOX or which ever other good mobility drivers? I'm having a hard time finding them for some reason.

Also I talked to Asus techs today regarding a different issue and I mentioned that whenever I try to launch NTune I get a BSOD, they said it's because NTune is not meant to work with notebook GPU's and that I should be careful when using any video driver other then from Asus site because nvidia supplied drivers for Asus are tailored specifically for these notebooks. Is this guy full of it, or are they suppose to say that for warranty purposes? What's the deal?

 

the Asus drivers are specifically customized to work with your laptop as far as sleep/hibernate and those kinds of settings go...with that said, most drivers from laptopvideo2go.com (where you can find dox drivers) work fine with most laptops... your not going to hurt anything by trying out different drivers and finding one that best works for YOU.

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showforum=122

 

I see, thanks for the info =)

 

Impresive score!

But what resolution did you use for that?

I got about the same score under 3dMark06 at 1280x780 (max free version resolution)

I haven't flashed my video bios at all, the only thing I did was:

3DMark06 at 1280x768 with CPU in turbo mode @ 2.9ghz, GPU with DOX 182.05 OP and 560/800/1400.

Cheers!
RayanMX

 

Hey Rayan, those scores are all at 1280x1024 without the dox drivers. i really must give them a bash and see if it helps at all. i was hoping to get 10k without oc'ing the GTS..

 

Thanks for your response betc!

So, basically you got that score by flashing your card to a GTS Bios?

Cheers!
RayanMX

 

hells yes. all GTS scores. i think no GS was around the 9k mark

 

i managed to get a bit over 9k without changing the voltage and with lower than the GTS speeds

9111 3dmarks
SM 2.0 Score 4102
Sm 3.0 3792
Cpu score 2540
@(557-850-1350) with (182.05 DOX)

anyone got higher score with V1.05?

 

@betc,

I got 10205 3DMark points with my 9800M GS without changing Voltages or GTS Bios.

I'll post a Youtube video tonight!

In the meantime here's a screen capture:


( DL larger version here)

I can't imagine the score if I flash the GTS Bios!!!

Cheers!
RayanMX

 

Unfortunately your #dmark06 score is at 1280x768 resolution--the default setting is 1280x1024, so you need to run it at that to get a true score. In my experience it will be about 90% of your score at that lower resolution.

I've gotten a little over 11,000 points at 1280x768 (in XP and with the voltage mod).

 

RayanMX: If you want to base your 3dmark scores against other people you are going to have to run it at default res or it doesn't mean a thing. I could run mine at 800*600 and boast how high my score is

At default in 06 I get ~9400

Also I just wanted to come back to this thread and let you guys know that I have been doing a bunch of gaming Sup Com: Forged Alliance, Fallout 3, Left 4 Dead, Unreal Tournament 3: Black and a few more games without a single crash due to the GTS flash. Solid as a rock!

 

Well I just replaced my T9400 with a P9600 and I guess in doing so it shed some light on the cooling part.

The P9600 is faster but runs cooler than the T9400, as a result my CPU temps are of course lower, but the downfall to this seems that the FAN is controlled more by the CPU as my GPU temps are a tad higher...

My guess is the FAN is controlled by both but the thermal threashold must be hit by the CPU for optimal cooling.

Guess its time to OC my P9600 to get it warmer, haha... With the Asus program it OC to 3Ghz factory, HAHA nice

Anyway I paid $220 with shipping for my P9600 and thus far its great.
Best part is my warranty is not void because the tape was not on my CPU all the way and came up clean... But I am not new to this stuff I repair notebooks for a living, but just wanted to share that with some of you.

I now wish I would have popped the GPU heatsink up and put my artic silver 5 on it instead of just the CPU but they are two seperate parts and I figured the less I have to remove the better if I ever need to warranty

 

Sounds good, Bryanu. I wish I could get one of those for my X1, as I'm dabbling in PS2 emulation now and that eats CPUs for breakfast, but I don't have the spare cash at the moment

 

I totally understand your point Exostenza and jacobxaviermason, but I wasn't trying to boast or anything. I was under the impression that most everyone uses 3DMark06 free edition which defaults to 1280x768 but I guess that's not the correct default resolution then.

Anyhow, I just ran another test at 3DMark06 (pay version) on Defaults (1280x1024) and got the following result while overclocking the laptop to 2.9 Ghz and the video card to 620/850/1450 and using DOX 182.05 drivers.

9830 3DMarks which isn't exactly 10205 but still a good score...


( Larger version here)

Remember that in my case I'm not changing voltages or BIOS.

Next project: Change the GS BIOS to a GTS BIOS.

Cheers!
RayanMX

 

Sorry, didn;t mean to give you a hard time, RayanMX. And 9830 is really darn good for the GS. I'll bet once you mod your vbios to 1.11 volts you'll be able to top 10,000 easily. I've been able to run 3dmark06 at 605-930-1610 clocks since I modded mine. Good luck!

 

Holy smokes RayanMX you got 620mhz on the core without a volt mod!??

Also, so no one has had any luck with over clocking the T9400???

 

Nah no problem jacobxaviermason, on the contrary... Thanks for letting me know I was using an incorrect resolution.

@Exostenza, well yeah... Amazing indeed but I'm really on the edge. A bit higher and boom video card stops and starts again after a 3DMark06 crash so I decided to lower my settings just a bit, but I'm still in the 97XX range just to be safe.

The cool thing is that even at those speeds, I see no significant rise in temps!

I'll try to mod the BIOS later next week and see what happens...

Have a great weekend!

RayanMX

 

Wish you all would use the 3d mark vantage, lol

Thats the one I have and I dont want to install another progy but just wondering what people are getting in that one.

 

I get P3104 on a g50vt a1, on 185.20 DOX. I think thats a bit low.. Any ideas?

 

I can't get my shaders over 1500 or my Core over 600 even with the volt mod or I get artifacts / crashing. I did bump my mem up to 850 though.

Bryanu: vantage is made for better cards and for some reason doesn't provide me with my max temps like 05 does. Even 06 doesn't get my card as hot as 05 and vantage doesn't get it as hot as 06. I am looking for a program to really stress my card and for some reason Vantage just doesn't do that.

 

RTHDRIBL is a good way to stress your GPU. Mine only stays at 85C because the fan kicks in to OMGBBQ mode.

 

RTHDRIBL doesn't get my temps very high. I go about 8C higher in 3dmark05 with max settings than RTHDRIBL.

 

gives higher memory a noticable effect? or some points @3dmark?

 

Hmm...I dunno then. I've also tried FurMark and that only gets to 85C as well.

 

Get 3dmark05 crank it up the max settings and loop every test 3-6 times have gpuid record your temps to a file and find your max temp in there. its gonna be higher than 85 i think!

 

I get about 400 more 3dmark06 points with the vram at 930mhz than at the stock 800mhz. So yes, it does have a noticeable effect.

 

Remeber on a video card RAM is not monitored for heat and is always the first to burn itself out when over clocking. I can take mine further than 850, but I don't want to ruin the lifespan of the card!

 

I've done something dumb, I've begun to recieve crashing in game and want to revert back to my original BIOS, but I've lost the bootable flash drive with it on. Would it be possible for somebody to upload their original bios? I'm on the default system BIOS, so whatever the systems from before Christmas had on.
Thanks a whole load!

 

its on my guide thread.

 

If you head to my post with G50VT-X5 Im doing benchmarks with various overclocking settings, The highest stable clock I have gotten so far is 782mhz/953mhz/1955mhz core/memory/shader and its player really stable. Ive been playing crysis warhead on this setting for the last 2 hours with NO signs of glitches or problems, and a small fps gain, with the highest being at gamer settings, with an avg of 24fps vs 21 on default clocks. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=367670 is a link to the thread.

 

does anyone already tried Gta 4 and see the temps?... i got a crazy 96c temp (stock clocks).. or somethings wrong with my machine?..

g50vt-b1
T9550 2.66ghz 6mb L2 (OC'ed to 3.0)

 

or somethings wrong with this game ?... My 9700mGT gets up to 93° in this game, and it's the only one. The others sit around 89 max.
Eating 100% cpu all the time, plus high graphics (not so nice) = lot of heat ?

 

Mine goes low 80s on GTA IV, you temps are safe, but theres no reason why they should be so high...

 

I'm curious as to how the 9800m GS would fare against the n81vp's ATI 4650.. Is the 9800m GS better or ati's 4650? A friend of mine is contemplating on getting either one.

 

i got the settings maxed out..3 settings are on very high.. the rest are just high....no idea though... cod 4 even got 96c gheeez...

 

9800 GS should be better since it has a 256-bit memory bus and the 4650 has a 128-bit bus. Around an 1800 point difference in 3dmark06, if notebookcheck is to be believed.

 

notebookcheck should only be a rough guide as to the actual performance of both cards. yes its true that a 4650 is comparably lower in performance than the 9800m gs, but the 128 bit / 256 bit bus argument is voided because the 4860 which is a 128 bit bus runs faster than the 9800m gs and is slightly better than the gtx 260m which just came out recently. (see gt725 vs sager 8662) 4860 is about 10% better than a 4850 which means that technically it should be slightly faster.

4860>4850>260m>9800m gs
128 vs 256 bit bus... ati wins!!! and is built on a 40nm manufacturing process compared to 65 and has gddr5 WOOHOO

 

Reminder, the 4650 is a mid-range card

the 9800m GS is a high-end card (lower end of but still qualifies)

Comparing memory bus bits directly to performance is not relevent between two different architecture cards.

Note that even in the same architecture, using faster-clocked RAM at 128 bits can actually give just as much performance as lower-clocked RAM with a 256-bit bus.
4 lanes at 30MPH = 2 lanes at 60MPH!
Remember, this is just the indication of the "number of lanes" between the memory and the GPU.

The whole concept that 256-bit cards are always better than 128-bit cards is a major misnomer. While generally true within the Nvidia cards, the 8700m GTs were 128-bit and even the same manufacturer as 7900GTX, yet the 8700m GT eventually beat both the 7900GTX and its newer 7950GTX cousin.

 

my smarter brother ^

 

-The recovery disk came with your computer.
-The overclocking program called Direct Console 2 that comes preloaded on -Your computer overclocks your CPU not GPU
-The "standard" bios is just the newest one so go to the asus website and get the newest bios

This post has nothing to do with the thread make a new one next time so more people will help yo.

 

uninstall the drivers and reboot into safe mode and clean with driver sweeper then reboot again and get the official 185.85 drivers installed on your computer and see if everything runs smoothly.

 

Ey buddy iv done that well still same problem iam goin to forgett butt gaming on the notebook its too much hassel

TAnx 4 ur help

 

Hey guys hows it goin!! I got my G50VT-X5 a month or so ago and im getting into OC'ing it. So I went ahead and installed DOX 185.55, and downloaded GPUZ. I have a couple of questions.

1. How can I monitor the temps in real time while im playing fallout 3?? Will it work like Fraps and show it in real time??

2. After I installed the Dox drivers some things happened lol. System information now says I am running 9800M GT.. And both the system info. and GPUZ are stating that I am running at PCIE X1.. Well it says IRQ: 16, Bus X1. Gpuz says Pcie X16 @ X1.

Now I had heard that it switches to X16 when it is needed is this true??

Asus G50VT-X5
Vista64bit/SP1
Stock settings atm

 

The way that Dox designed the installation treats the 9800m GS as a 9800m GTS... or GT in your case. A bit odd since a 9800m GS is the exact same card as a GTS, just with slower clocks than the GTS. GT is a different card entirely.

But don't worry. I had the same thing happen to me with my X6. No stability issues.


I have no idea what's happening in GPU-Z though. And you'll have to find some OLED mods to get your GPU temperature in real time, I think.

 

HMMM.. Well if anyone has any idea why its saying its at X1 that would be great to know.

 

Could you post a screenshot?