G51j Blue screen of death problems

Just go the Windows XP route if you are so worried

I only have the issue with borderlands, and since I use my laptop for more than gaming I am more focused on what ideas the users get.

So far we know it is a software issue, but there are also RAM and power theories we must try!

It will be awesome to find out the issue to be power, so that we can all get 150w PSU and get done with it!

 

Happy new year everyone, I have new speculation on this problem.

As previously mentioned, it could be a GRAM timing issue... but this was apparently addressed in the 204 or 205 BIOS (don't remember which and I don't feel like digging the thread), and it didn't solve the issue (or am I misremembering?).

XP works without BSODs, so that leads me to believe it's some sort of BIOS/ACPI problem. There is a world of difference between XP and W7 in terms of power management features.

The new part is this -- there are numerous threads I've found about integrated audio and NVIDIA cards causing trouble with each other which result in 0x124. For a certain Dell system, NVIDIA's official response was to disable the C1E state in the BIOS. Unfortunately we do not have this option.

This leaves us with no option but to A) suggest it to ASUS and wait or B) edit: maybe try disabling the minimum CPU power state in a power profile (set to 100% as minimum)? I had originally put modding the BIOS as option B (which isn't even possible without a decompression utility -- let me know if there is one that works).

Again this is pure speculation. I don't have any hard info to back this up. I don't know if disabling C1E will get rid of the BSODs. Just wanted to throw it out there.

 

Anything works and it is a good theory! We must try it too in case the 150w PSU fails on W7!

 

Sigh. I'm digging into whitepapers now to get a better feel on this. I must admit I'm not up to speed on i7 architecture. If anyone can spot an error in my speculation please speak up...

Edit: Dug thru a couple Intel papers and I guess Turbo boost does need C1, and I assume that means C1E state on the i7. It's vague the way Intel wrote it. That was the part I edited out when ryzeki quoted me...

But if I am wrong on this, please let me know. I'm more sure of it than I was before reading the whitepaper but it's not explicit about C1E.

 

Just went through another BSOD with BIOS 205, fresh install of Windows 7 and the new Power4Gear upgrade. Isn’t ASUS slightly embarrassed at all by this? I mean it can’t get any more shameful than this; it has been more than 2 months since this issue was first reported and this freaking company hasn’t show a single bit of effort that they are addressing it. My respect for ASUS is gone and I’m calling them tomorrow to get some results.

 

Well the only difference it made for me was that instead of giving me a BSOD between 5~30 minutes, it now gives me a BSOD between 30~90 minutes.

Sefam: Man I want to thank you for going over to the asus forum and ripping them a new one, your right 3 months is too long to wait for a fix. If I took that long to follow up on something I'd be out the door.

let's take our frustration out on Asus I say we pick a time and a date and every G51j owner around the world storm the nearest Asus service center with pitch-forks and torches .

Seriously though I'm so pissed I just might start using Gigabyte boards and other hardware for my next builds.

ryzeki you have no idea how much I'm praying for the 150w PSU to be the solution!

 

I stressed the G51J-A1 here and never hit enough consumption to convince me that it is blatantly a PSU problem. If it is, that is great news. But it should be a bit more obvious if it was the PSU.

 

I know it's wishful thinking on my part, but I'm kinda' getting desperate. I've tried everything I know of to get rid of the problem. and without the ability to freely edit BIOS settings I'm getting a little edgy!

 

I think anyone who hasn't ditched their G51J-A1 yet is right there with you. I'm still hoping the PSU is the golden ticket, but I am not too optimistic.

If it comes down to BIOS problems that ASUS can't/won't fix, we are in some deep trouble right now because there is nothing (that I can find at least) to decompress the BIOS, which would be the very first step towards a homebrew solution. It's a format that none of the tools I have found will work with. As thalanix said to me in a PM, we're in the dark right now (as far as the BIOS is concerned).

 

you'd think that Asus would at least say something constructive to us in here!
hell they could even point us to a tool to decompress the freakin' BIOS.

 

Nobody knows. I certainly hope so, but if Asus hasn't been taking this issue seriously internally (even if only to prevent a new model from doing this again), it could happen again. I'd certainly risk a G51Jx before spending money on this.

There's a Sager model or two that would fit me perfectly, but I just know nothing about what a safe store to buy them from is, or if they're really as good as everyone claims (people keep acting like they have as good of cooling as the M15x, and none of the issues of these two systems, but...)

Return it. IMO even if you have to take a restocking hit that's safer than keeping it.

Installing an 8 year old OS is just not a a real solution.

 

Anyone tried to PM the ASUS representative account here?

 

Nope. But I am pretty surprised that they didn't reply here.

 

um what? they did reply here. a few times. Its just lost in this gigantic 112 pag thread with a bunch of unnecessary and useless chit chat.

 

I just sent Asus CC a PM regarding Allur's founding about power management issue. Hope he can contact the engineers or post their own progress here.

 

They didn't post in a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time. We have no idea if they're actually working on the fix or not and what's happening with it. Sorry for the confusion.