G73JH 6970M upgrade infomation

The more i test and look for bugs the more i am starting to realize that a format and a fresh install is a must.

Fixed the sleep bug by uninstallig all the power4gear stuff and installing the latest version. Sleep mode works now

Using Aida64 i found that the mobo still know that there has been a 5870 in the JH. A fresh install might fix some problem. Will do a format on monday.

 

A format and a fresh install of windows and all the drivers fixed all of problems except the fan speed.

Found out that the CPU fan is ACPI bus so might be able to change the speed via ubuntu to see if changing that will effect the GPU fan as well. Also might get more info on how to control the fans

Strange thing is i have had 3 shutdowns in game. Temps were about 83C.
Might be something i missed as i did not have this before and then i was running OC.

 

I'm going to try this mod very soon. I just disassembled my G73JH and modded the heatsink. I used a small metal chizzle and hammer to cut off the metal juts on the HS. Works like a charm. Now I'm waiting for the HD6970M and miscellaneous parts arrive to finish the mod. I believe I'm getting the Eurocard version from Ebay. I don't really mind if the fan runs full speed all the time. I hope this mod will extend the life of my laptop for another year before I upgrade to the new Ivy Bridge and Kepler architectures. I will update with progress and post pictures soon.

Since I have the unit disassembled, I'm thinking about upgrading to the 920XM. Will the stock power supply work with both the HD6970M and 920XM upgrades?

 

From what i've seen/done, the stock adaptor is a little too weak for both the 6970 and 920. I used a 180W targus universal in order to supply enough power but i do no overclocking with my 920, but as DH48 said you will need to have a 240w to be safe with any overclocking and just for normal functions and the peace of mind that your adaptor wont explode . You can try the stock adaptor but its gonna be very stressed because it cannot provide that much power and thats never good for a psu.

 

What are i`m doing wrong i have purchased a clevo HD6970M mxm 3.0 type B

ati black comp

heat sink is on

.93bios update

i push the button light go on screen stays black laptop goes out

what are i`m doing wrong ? i follow the steps from DH48

have i purchased a broke card ??

 

I'm sure you meant BIOS 213 not .93 vBIOS for the 5870m, right?
What mods you has done to the heatsink? Pictures?
The notebook shuts down automatically? Maybe heat protection.

 

no i got .93vbios 5870 is now stil running

where do i get bios 213 ? http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&m=G73Jh&p=3&os=30 <=is this the right one

is that required for the hd6970m ?

i`ll will try it

and i have follow the picatures from first page purchased a new heat sink cut of the parts
and add on the chips small heat sink i have drill little holes in the bottem of de case and purchased a coolmaster laptopstand with 3 fan`s the are replaceable and it have place them under the gpu
i`m sure it is not a heat problem
when i push the on button de blue light go on 1/2 second and than its turning of screens stay`s black drive and fans are not turning

i`m on me work now later this day i wil upload picture and movie what is happening but i can maybe is the problem the wrong bios :S
about 4 hours i gonne send picture

your my hero sow fast reply

with no overclock stock 150watt? or do i need a upgrade to 180watt ?

i only chance 1 hdd in to a ssd
tanks for your help

 

OK. Check all things with care.

The vBIOS is on the GPU. You updated your 5870m? That's fine but has no influence here.

150W power adaptor should do it (I too have no other). I can boot with a 65W adaptor without problems.

Maybe a cable (wifi -> white) is pressing on the reset button.

 

bios 213 is that required for the hd6970m ?

about 2 hours i gonna try it

for now i gonne put the 5870m in the g73 start up do the bios thing than i do again the vbios
than i put the hd6970m in it and it should work ! do i mis a thing


i have try again saturday i gonne buy a new one

 

yes you have to buy a new one, with a broken gpu laptop turns on but no screen , do a test without gpu and see the result you get compared with gpu inside.

 

I can see that you have the GPU mounted with only one screw. Does the GPU have support on the other side ? if not then there might be you problem.

Hmm odd when my first GPU died it did not shut down like your notebook did. It just turned on and ran with a black screen.

The card has to sit in the MXM socket perfectly.


Were did you buy the GPU ?

 

yes it fit perfectly its verry strange

and i cant upload a video that i can show what happens

but i have change it now for 4 times from 5870 to 6990
5870 works every time 6990 not even one time

6990 = clevo

yesterday attempt with new 213 bios got no effect

saterday i gonna buy a new one hope that it work

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by first attempt i have used 1 screws and full up like in the description on the first page but i got same problem now im being lazy :S and dont use al the screws for testing

with the new one i will use everything and completely put together before i hit the powerbutton

 

If you bought it from the shop then I would just return it and say it did not power on. Did the same thing with my first DELL GPU and they just replaced it with a new one.


One thing i need to add to the first post is do not rush with the swap. Take it slow and have all the parts needed. The GPU has to have pressure from the heatsink and the mounts on the motherboard if one is missing then the heatsink might not cover the GPU and that could lead to overheat but as you have not been able to boot it for the first time it might be something serious. If the 6990M is out at the moment look at the GPU-s core to see if it might have been damaged by the JH heatsink.

 

there is no damage heatsink is also good but overheating if it dont fire up?

 

i dont know where to post my question but i see you guys here have a lot of experience with GPUs on g73jh, so maybe someone can give me a answer to the following: what is the the distance between the GPU memory chips and GPU heatsinks on HD 5870m? I assume it somewhat less than 1mm but i need a more exact figure.

Sorry if this sounds a bit off-topic.

 

No, this is a good question.
My experience was, that 0.5mm thermal pads are too small/thin. I'd purchased good 0.5mm pads for my swap, but while watching to the mounted heatsink there was a small gap between VRAM and heatsink (I guess 0.1-0.2 mm). I decided to reuse the stock ones from the 5870. These are thicker (~1mm) and elastic and squeeze a bit. IDK where to buy such ones or why Asus uses different colors/types on one card.

 

1mm is to much as the thermal pads are 1mm.

I got a spare JH heatsink at home and can try to measure it on the 5870 after i get home.

 

Yeah i had that experience too. I mounted the heatsink with 0.5mm pads and the second i tried to install the heatsink on motherboard i flipped it a bit and all the pads were laying on the table. So i reused the stock ones as well.

But the main reason behind my question is to use copper shims with TIM on both sides instead of T-pads like in the picture below. Shims are sold of different thickness. from 0.2mm to 2.5. Just need to pick the right one.

cool!

 

Hard to measure but the GPU core is about 1mm higher then the mem chips.....but on the heatsink the core copper plate is about 0,3-0,4mm lower then the part that is on the mem. chip. so the answer you are looking for is about 0,6-0,7mm without any thermal pad and paste.

Ill try to find better measuring tools.

 

to day brand new card and it works fine gpu temp 74´c play battlefield 1080p 35frames sec.

i`m happy !

dh48 Thanks !

 

Hi all,

I was wondering if there is a buying guide for 6970/6990m cards? I have had a forum search, as well as google and ebay and am not finding info on places who sell them.

I would like to price a Clevo 6970/6990m and keep an eye out for any specials. I presume some companies that sell Clevo based laptops also sell the cards separately.

I could PM all the G73JH upgraders in this thread, but would benefit more people to have the info posted for all to sell. If the start of this thread, which has the great upgrade info, also had a list of suppliers for cards that'd be very handy.

Cheers!

 

Hey Dionysius!

What settings in BF3 are you using?

 

Strange the 6000M series seems to have a lot of faulty or at least fragile cards.
Hope the 7000M series is better


But graz on the swap Dionysius.


Can anyone post 6970M Idle and load temps in HWinfo?

I am moding the heatsink again and want to see im getting a anomaly or i was realy able to get the mem. temp down 6c.

Word of Tanks is still a killer for the GPU. I hit 95C and get thermal shutdown. Skyrim with HD pack and batman AC work with no problems. I changed the bios settings to 100C so far no shutdown. Might need to to a re-paste and add a heatplate for the bottom of the GPU.

Cant wait for the 7900m cards

Room temp is 25c:
Idle temps:


And the mod i am working on:
280GTX heatsink kit 6 euros


Moded 6970m heatsink. (Still need to take it apart to add the rest of the heatsinks:

 

1080P and high i dont have time to try to the max monday evening
and i will try and upload HWinfo screenshot


gpu temp max 87´C

 

look at this a chinese guy gave me this pic and he can make this for 60$ is it worth?

 

I have the same doubt. I have only found a few on ebay and none of them were Clevo/Dell.

Any buying tips would be appreciated

 

try this one
AMD Radeon Mobility HD6970M (BlackcombXT); 2GB DDR5; MXM 3.0b; VGA Module | eBay

 

What are the conditions of this build-up? Will your craftsman buy on his own the 6970/6990 heatsink + G73JH heatpies with heat exchanger and put them together, or you have to provide him with all the "raw material" -> he will just do the work and send you back the "finished product" 6970/6990 G73JH heatsink for $60 (including postage)?

 

no I dont need to send anything he has a lot of g73jh heatsink he just modified it and sell it for 60$ but that price is without shipping , but the shipping is the prob , he asks 48$ for it to send in DHL , and this heatsink is for 6970m , the idle temps are 42 C - 54 C so somting like that he sent me a screen shot of load and idle temps , pm me if you need it.

 

So, in theory, 7000 series cards should use less power, right? So we might actually be able to toss in a 7800/7900m into the JH? I'm new to notebooks, just got my G73JH, interested in keeping it alive for a while if I can.

 

more pictures of g73jh custom made heatsink for 6970m


This one is how he have made the fan controller and and he is using a asus g73sw motherboard for this and it works have a temps but its in chinese so i dont want to confuse.
edit : but with this motherboard he tests with his asus g73jh hd 5870m vga card.

 

Thanks.
Can I try de 6990m also ? I searched Ebay and found that the difference between them is about $100.
I have already bought my 920xm and the Alienware AC adapter.

 

nice buy but , please dont buy hd 6990m idk if it will work without a prob.
6970m is good to go buy a clevo or a dell card.

 

$110 is a very good price for the "final product" delivery, because you save time and money as well. I'll start monkey biz with my notebook after April when the warranty will become over and up to that time I need to make little savings for it as well.

I'm also curious about 6990m card or the coming generation. If the craftsman will be able to build and sell these genuine heatsinks for other cards swaps into G73 he will for sure find some tens (perhaps hundreds) of customers around the globe .

 

yes , he makes rock solid parts, and sell for reasonable price , he have made 10 - 15 custom heatsinks for g73jh to fit othercards in it. He Said some people in this forum cut the jh seatsink and fit small heatsinks over it wont control the heat the heat transfer is very low, but if its connected with jh heatsink the fan works to cool everything.
Im not the 1st person to see this , many chinese people buy custom heatsinks from him.

 

If you can get a custom heatsink then it is good but the fan control is the part i am worried about. It only uses one thermal sensor that only gets its reading from the heatpipe or the side of the GPU. The GPU does not emit heat evenly thats why it has 3-4 thermal sensors on it to regulate the fan speed.

Yes it will work but under heavy load and OC i have doubts.

 

I think he has only mounted 1 thermal sensor for gpu and one for cpu, because the motherboard he is using is g73sw , with hd 5870m vga, so fans run at max to reduce it he have setup this to keep fan at certain speed.

 

So he says the ATI card works with the Nvidia mobo ? Hmm interesting. There have been a few attempts but the SW does not boot with any other card exept the card it had in it. The cards are not killed as they boot in other noatbooks but the SW just will not allow it to boot with any other GPU.

 

wait a min , he sent me a picture , at first I too didnt trust him then he sent me a screen shot. wait il upload it and post.

 

That's weird.
The SW has the totally non-MXM-looking GTX460m like the JW.
svl7 tested a 6970m in the JW without luck.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus-gaming-notebook-forum/576937-6970m-g73jw-fail.html
The only thing I could think of is that the SW accepts the Asus 5870m.
Was this a 5870 from a JH?

Cooling the electronic parts:
Till now I think it's overrated. Cooling is better but not essential.
My 5870m in the MSI barebone has no cooling for these parts at all. Just the DIE and VRAM are covered. At this time (2010) Dell heatsinks covered all the parts yet.

 

But look its a g73Sw motherboard, idk asus have made it to work with other cards. and he have done the test with the vga card from g73jh .


for cooling he said with hd 6970m in , at load
test with furmark for 10 min
memory clock 972
core clock 760
gets 80 C - 89 C

 

Even MXM-upgrade tested the SW and it did not even boot. Card worked in a nother laptop.
It would be good news if the SW worked. Might want to test a 580 or higher nvidia GPU in it then.

 

For a custom heatsink, i think the best solution would be a fully copper heatsink with an additional 50x50x10 fan on it. (it should fit)

 

mxm-upgrade.com it totally wrong ,did you see few months before they said asus g73jh or jw cannot be upgraded. and Now they say g73Sw cannon be upgraded , do you know why they say this? its because the fans run at max and they dont have the heat sink for it.
that chinese guy got a big shop , so he did a test with a gtx 570 with g73sw motehrboard but it didnt work but it worked with asus g73jh vga card in it.
idk why you guys wont belive it.,

yes its the perfect choice but no one alive for making it. hehehe.

ps:go take a look at mxm-upgrade.com in the front page its still there. they have mentioned,it gets into socket properly but it wont put up anything on the screen , so you say its true.
how to fix a fan over it?

 

The owner of MXM-upgrade is on holiday and they tested it on the SW and assumed the same for the JH. As soon as he is back the page will be updated.
I talked to the MXM and they said that there was no boot.

Well would try copper if i could find a place that would selle a 7mm thick plate the size of the R3 heatsink.

 

are you sure its SW? cant it be Jw?

but do you have the tools to make it fit perfectly in g73jh?
I found a place where they have several copper plates? but I cant remember if they have 7mm think ones.
try googling it, .

 

As it's a hobby of evgasr2 to crosspost everywhere.
I had answered in the other thread.

This thread is for facts!!!

 

dont try to be smart , if a lil kid wears the dress of a gentle man , whatever he does he cannot be a gentle man.

I didnt even tell you anwser my questions , I just posted a fact, that a guy sells a custom made heatsink for g73jh to fit 6970m cards in it.and sw mobo supports ati cards.

 

So I got my Eurocard HD6970M installed and the lappy powered up and the video comes on (a big sigh of relief). However, when I went to bench the card, I noticed that the clock speed does not go beyond 400Mhz. I tried setting the clock speed with various utilities (MSI Afterburner, CCC) but the clock still does not go beyond 400 MHz. Do I need a different vBios? Help!

 

Powerplay is set to what ? 400 should me the so called media setting also when i watch movies the GPU is at 400/900. The clock speeds that you set do not make the card stick to the settings like the 5870 did. It will go up to the set speed if load is detected.