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    G74SX 560m (192 Bit) Overclocking results & Temps

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by dizzyscure1, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. dizzyscure1

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    Just got m G74SX today heres some quick results on stock clock, my AC is set at 74F. OC results,

    Core = 900
    Shader = 1800
    Memory = 1625 <- Maxed out on MSI AFTERBURNER :(


    Stock Clocks - Furmark 15 minute run @ 720p = 68C
    Overclock - Furmark 15 minute run @ 720p = 70C
    Overclock - Furmark 20 minute run @ 720p = 71C
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 23, 2011
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    Next up will be 3DMARK11 with stock clocks & OC, ohhh yeah i have 8gb of Kingston 1600mhz Ram & a SSD AS511S3-120 GM-C installed now also. The version of 3DMARK11 im using is the free version and im on the original drivers, 268.37. Well SDMARK11 keeps giving me error messages when all the benchmark completes and wont let me view my score so im updating my driver right now.

    Stock Clocks - P2033
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 23, 2011
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    '.', hexadecimal value 0x00, is an invalid character.
    This is the code which 3DMARK11 gives me everytime now??? what does it mean?
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 24, 2011
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    I will Clock my card the exact same as yours tommorow night, i think it will be interesting ;) but right now i need to figure out what the hecks going on with 3DMARK11 and the error which it keeps giving me. '.', hexadecimal value 0x00, is an invalid character. still giving this to me, i will try to fix it tonight. rest of the results i will post tommorow night.
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 24, 2011
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    :D I think it's only normal that your OC can beat his stock although not by much :) . Anyway, 3DMark 11 OC'd I'm getting P2532, YMMV. I'm sure other G74 scores are higher. :)
     
    Croesus, Aug 24, 2011
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    The difference is the CPU to be honest and slightly higher GPU scores, I was hanging around high 2600's before upgrading to the XM and that is the difference with the physics and combined score.

    Temps are low 70's for GPU same with Furmark the CPU well thats another matter ;)
     
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    Sweet!!! Yeah, I've always been jealous of the GPU score figures from Radeon machines. You rock!!!!!
     
    Croesus, Aug 24, 2011
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    @ Expert : my cpu was running at 2.2Ghz ! 2.6 is turbo !
     
    patkilla99, Aug 24, 2011
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    yeh i know but mine is the same cpu see my sgnature, also how the heck did you get it to run at 2.2 and make 3dmark 11 read it as 2600mhz ?

    i tried to overclock it with setfsb and it cannot go over 1.89 ......

    also in 3d mark mine read as 1900mhz yours is 2600mhz ..... can you explain to me why ?
     
    eXpert, Aug 24, 2011
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    Its getting tough me having to keep explaining how these CPU's work..

    The reason why he can overclock higher than you can:

    From http://forum.notebookreview.com/asu...m/605765-g73-53-jh-jw-overclocking-guide.html

    The way in which the CPU works is that it will automatically run the turbo at the multipliers locked for each core. Meaning that the clock speed will run higher when only one core is active but lower when all four cores are engaged. Raising the FSB using Setfsb will not change the multiplier as an XM can it will just raise the CPU Clock rating.

    As a QM example. 1.73ghz (4 cores) - 2.93ghz (1 core) FSB raised to 2.0ghz (4 cores) - 3.2ghz (1 core)

    Another example is the stock 920XM:

    1 Core Active: 24 - 3.2ghz
    2 Cores Active: 18 - 2.4ghz
    3 Cores Active: 15 - 2.0ghz
    4 Cores Active: 15 - 2.0ghz

    In your case when all 4 cores are active at stock your 740QM will run at 1.73ghz or with your overclock you mentioned 1.90ghz. Patkilla with his overclock as high as it is can run 4 active cores at 2.22ghz from what he said above but it would appear that 3DMark registered it running at around 2 or 3 active cores because the turbo was running at around 2.6ghz. 3DMark may not give an exact example of what speed the CPU is running at so I would not go by the clock speed mentioned in the 3DMark results you can see the difference by comparing exactly what speed the CPU is running at overall.

    To sum up your 1.90ghz at 4 cores to Patkilla's 2.22ghz at 4 cores will be the difference 322mhz more each core.
     
    Yiddo, Aug 24, 2011
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    322mhz on each core is a perfect as it will affect alot of games that cpu intensive especially games that use 4 cores like starcraft 2 and black ops and such ...

    yeh i know how it works, it is just the fact that some can overclock and others not just killes me same with the gtx460m ....
     
    eXpert, Aug 24, 2011
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    Your 460M can go over 800MHz, mine is stable at 800MHz max !
     
    patkilla99, Aug 25, 2011
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    Mine is stable in Crysis 2 at 800/1600/1550.

    Is stable in benchmarking/BCBF2/Dirt 3 and others at 814/1628/1620.

    So yes, its a matter of luck if it Oc's better or not. I saw peoples being stable at 825, even 830. Anything above 814 ends in a driver not responding error, but it doesnt go to p2 state (203mhz) instead it goes back to stock clocks (675mhz).

    I cant understand the reason of it honestly, it may be a driver related problem, or a limit on the gpu itself.

    Also i can bench at 823/1648/1400 but the lower memory clock actually performs worse (its normal afterall) than 814/1628/1620.
     
    Kingpinzero, Aug 25, 2011
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    @Dallers Don't high jack the thread! This is mean to be about the G74sx 192 560m overlocks. Not your G73jw....
     
    Hendrickson, Aug 25, 2011
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    Firstly people are comparing the 460M 192bit as well so go read the thread before mouthing off at me.

    Secondly I was talking about my G73JH not the G73JW.

    Thirdly go learn the meaning of hijack because last time I looked comparing results was not hijacking.

    and finally I dont care what you think anyway, so it matters not.
     
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    Dallers, are you looking for a time-out?
     
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    Why because someone who is rude to me for no reason thinks im not going to tell em where to go? Maybe he should have read the other posts before shouting his mouth off at me when I was only discussing with Croessus the difference in 3DMark scores but no one else who was also not discussing the 560M got mouthed at so he can jog on.

    When I stick up for mine and others opinion I seem to get a Red mark against my name every single time but others can mouth off and be rude at me as much as they like and their posts get left alone and they get nothing for it. I will argue my side until I get banned which wont be far off im sure, but at least im not fake.
     
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    Come on guys, let's all not get serious and fight over our fun hobby :D. Where's the love.

    I guess one of the reasons why we don't see much G74 posts is that not a lot of people owns it yet. So it doesn't really matter, to me personally, even if we see eXpert, patkilla99, dallers et.al. post about their G73's. The truth is, I was a bit sure this G74 thread will get pushed to third or fourth page again in just a few hours but their posts bumped it back up so its all good :). Come on guys, group hug :D.
     
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    Google GPU/CPU binning. You'll find the answer to your question.
     
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    Im still not able to do anything with 3DMARK11 :( i think my SSD is acting up windows freezes and all that good stuff LOL! but im about to try VANTAGE so stay tuned!!! :)
     
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    Heres my 3DMARK VANTAGE Scores.

    Stock - P9195
    OC - P10761

    My OC was 900/1800/1625
     
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    I am usning the latest drivers which are messing me up, how do i roll them back to a earlier stabile driver/version???
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 25, 2011
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    Are you getting the crash to black screen then message saying NVIDIA crashed when you start the bench? I had that a few times. I thought it meant that I was unstable from clocking too high.
     
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    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but your crashing is a throttling problem. ThrottleStop might solve this.
     
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    Oh, thanks for pointing that out. So throttling must be off for a stable overclock, or just when you are initially setting the clocks? Does this also remove the safety limits which prevent chips from burning up like they used to during bad overclocks?
     
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    Thanks man im aware of the binning, in my experience i had a few challenges back in time starting with agp 4x gpus and a few amd CPUs as well.

    I was just asking if something was related to the fermi architecture or the oc process.
     
    Kingpinzero, Aug 26, 2011
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    Now, the thing i can see is that GTX460m and 560M have a high oc potential but a low performance gain !!
     
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    Probably if the card had a 256bit bus and a few more shaders the performance would be much more "bold" in Oc.

    Anyway a 20% oc is always a good thing, it can leads to alot of fps increase. As an example in TW2 with my custom ini I can average 35 fps on stock; when I Oc to my stable (800/1600/1600) I can boost 40-42 of average in the same sample zone.

    That's a great increment if you ask.
     
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    I had a 17% OC and got about a 17-18% increase in performance. I think thats really nice!
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 26, 2011
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    P11032 @ 925/1850/1600
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 26, 2011
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    ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    How about you enable tesselation and stop cheating?

    It's stupidly easy to tell when you have messed with it. I just take a similarly clocked 5770 desktop or 5870M where I know it's legit and then see how your GT1 compares and see if your GT2-4 getting further and further apart.

    Oh and look, maybe next time you can run it wireframe mode? Or photoshop a screenshot at the end with really big numbers? Or post a 3dmark 06 score as a 3dmark 11 score?

    It's all the same.

    Oh and you guys make me sad, while I can bench at over 900mhz core, I have to dial it back down to the mid 800s to get it stable in all games *sigh* such a poor core. Luck of the draw I guess.
     
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    So far im really happy with what the 560m can do, was running Starcraft 2 today for about 1hr @ 925/1850/1600 and not one problem. i will try to bench @ 950 soon just to late tonight.
     
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    Finally replaced my SSD which was randomly freezing on me, heres some
    3DMARK11 scores

    Stock - P2057
    OC 920/1840/1625 - P2457 <--- My 24/7 clocks, i might bump it up soon though! :D
    OC 950/1900/1625 - P2516

    950/1900/1625 is the highest ive gone on the 560m i think the GPU needs/ wants more Volts, one thing is for sure the temps arent keeping it from the max OC ;)
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 29, 2011
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  40. Croesus

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    Thanks for the results. For your 950 though, I think P2516 is a bit low(?). Make sure you're not running anything in the background. Can't wait to see more.
     
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    I thought i closed out all programs, ill run it again a little later.
     
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    On second thought perhaps it's a fine score. In my experience 922 is my most stable giving consistent results after testing more than ten times in benchmarks and games. Anything north of 930 made the scores inconsistent, sometimes even lower than 925.

    My average from my 922 is P2542.
     
    Croesus, Aug 29, 2011
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    wow i really need to retest then.
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 29, 2011
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    Reran 3DMARK11 @ 950/1900/1625 and got P2514
    Also 930/1860/1625 and got P2483

    I am on the stock drivers that came with the G74, i think that might have something to do with the scores.
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 29, 2011
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    Hi everyone, first of all sorry if my english is not good, it is not my first language.

    I just received a G74SX-XT1, and I want to know up to where is safe to overclock it?, which parameters?, I'm a total noob on that matter i don't want to fry it, it was a present from my wife.

    Mostly I will use it to play WoW, haven't tried another game, normally in Orgrimmar full of peopple on Ultra (Vsync and Tripple Buffering On) I have between 25 to 37fps on average, haven't tested in a 25m raid.

    Croesus do you use 922/1844/1250 for every day use or only when gamming?

    dizzyscure1 you use 920/1840/1625, as you say, as your 24/7 normal usage, right?

    Both setups are pretty much the same, the only thing that makes me think is the difference in the Memory Clock, 1250 vs 1625, what does that difference do? can you please explain me...

    I will try both setups tonight and see what give me better results, but as i mentioned before i really don't want to fry my new laptop :)

    Thanks everyone.
     
    Quandth, Aug 30, 2011
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    QUANDTH I would suggest you bring it to around 900/1800/1625 for 24/7 use.
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 30, 2011
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    Thanks i will test it tonight.
     
    Quandth, Aug 30, 2011
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    Cool stuff! let us know those results ;)
     
    dizzyscure1, Aug 30, 2011
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    My scores 3Dmark11, Driver Version 280.26, did not use ThrottleStop (doesn't work for some reason):

    Stock Max 62*C During Test:

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G74Sx score: P2190 3DMarks

    OC 920/1840/1625 Max 65*C During Test:

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G74Sx score: P2588 3DMarks

    Never Overclocked anything before, MSI afterburner made it super easy

    (Tried previous posted settings, nothing new, Just to compare scores for others looking)
     
    Boosted_01_R, Aug 31, 2011
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    I only use OC when I'm gaming for more FPS in Ultra and 1080p. Only a few games needs it though (The Witcher 2, Metro 2033, Mafia II). Running stock on most of my games and its still smooth as silk and remains frozen cool. For WoW, the 560M stock will still give you smooth framerates. :cool:

    Sweet! Keep em coming. :)
     
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