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    G74SX 560m (192 Bit) Overclocking results & Temps

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by dizzyscure1, Aug 23, 2011.

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    Anyone try NVIDIA Inspector 1.9.5.5 ? If so what settings and scores?
     
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    I tried Nvidia Inspector but i couldnt adjust the core??? so i didnt use it LOL!
     
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    so i recently purchased a malibal P151HM1 which has the 1.5 GTX560M, with the latest firmware and on stock clocks i scored a P2203 and when i tried the 900/1800/1625 it actually dropped to P2180... little surprised by the results. in both tests the max temp was 73C. any ideas?
     
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    nevermind afterburner just didnt load the right clock speeds... so at 920/1840/1625 im getting around P2600...

    I tried bumping it up to 950 but i started to get flickering and artifacts... so i had to bring it back down... whats weird is my system stock max temp is 74C but even at 920/1840/1625 the max temp is still 74... i noticed that yalls asus are staying cool around 60C thats crazy i guess my setup for cooling doesnt have much head room... i dont want to go over 80C right?
     
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    GPU Temps should stay under 85-90C
     
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    I've been doing a little overclocking on mine. I cant believe how cool this runs compared to my old G53sx. Even clocked to 920+ core it sits nicely around 65 - 67 degrees. Where as my 460m clocked to around 800mhz would be around 85 to 88 degrees. Its just shows you how good the cooling is. or improved lower wattage the 560m is.

    My G74sx is running Witcher 2 alot smoother than the G53 ever could. I hope it can handle Skyrim which is really what I got it for....
     
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    What is the maximum stable oc that you guys've reached with the 560m 1,5Gb?

    Mine max stable was 920/1625/1800... whhile playing with no visual crashs
     
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    285.27 is out already and performance really seems very good, you can try for better performance
     
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    okay, i'll try it out....

    edit: i found that those drivers are just for desktop gpu.
    edit2: most stable oc i've had til now was 875/1750/1550
     
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    Glad to be back in the forum. Hello, how are the FPS on your Crysis 2 on those OC? Can you post pics with FPS on Crysis 2 on either or both high and/or very high setting at 1080p (with HR Texture and DX11, I assume). Much appreciated.

    My copy of Crysis 2 has only high, v high, extreme and ultra setting (limited edition C2). Some of the other 560m OC'ers should post pics too with fraps. Thanks.
     
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    Crysis 2 on Asus G74SX GTX560M 3GB @ 940/1880/1500 Gamer/Hardcore

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    Thanks for the pics and vid. Didn't you guys noticed how between High and Ultra at 1080p with HR Textures and DX11 that there's almost no difference in graphics quality. It's also nice to see the FPS comparison between a 560M and a 460M. This is on regular OC of 810/1685 and stable with Max GPU temp. of 80*C after 2 hrs. of gaming.



    Mine are like these. View at 100% Browser zoom 'cause pics gets stretched and lose detail after uploading here.
    High: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4043/crysis22011092503535457.jpg
    http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3033/crysis22011092502492804.jpg

    Very High: http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9936/crysis22011090617305628.jpg
    http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8219/crysis22011092502503227.jpg

    Ultra: http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6260/crysis22011092503542757.jpg
    http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/1503/crysis22011092502484261.jpg


    Rifle Display.
    High: http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9568/crysis22011092503565353.jpg

    Very High: http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/1865/crysis22011091011145947.jpg
     
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    So should I try core-900 shader-1800 memory-1625 on my g74sx-xn1? this seems like the sweet spot am I correct or will this differ from each laptop even if there exactly the same? Also this "throttle stop" is this somthing one must install before overclocking?
     
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    It all depends on your card, everyones is different. Yours might go higher than that, or maybe it wont be able to reach it. Just overclock it a bit, run a benchmark and make sure there are no artifacts and overclock a bit more. Repeat until you get to a point where you feel comfortable, or until you start seeing artifacts. Just push back a bit if you start seeing artifacts. Also keep an eye on your temps.
     
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    Guys,

    Do you think it is better to have frequencies like 860 core 1720 memory or decrease the memory freq in order to rise the core freq so lets say 875core/1600 memory ?
    What is the benefit to have high freq memory compared to high freq core, that's the real question I guess as I know the bandwitch depends only on the memory freq !

    Thanks for your answers !

    X6813/16F2 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@860/1720 1v - m4 128go - 2x2@1333 hyundai
     
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    Damn , you guys makes me wanna try thoses crazy values ... i was at stock yesterday , tried a bit a goes to 805 Mhrtz , and Battlefield 3 is now smoother ... makes me wanna try harder :x

    I'd like someone could answer pau1ow , i was wondering if anybody can tell me what does exactly thoses settings are ( i mean , more core clock means more xxxx , more memory to push texture higher ? etc .. )
     
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    @Catzoo dont worry, you can easily push your 560m up to 875core and 1700 memory without any concerns ! They are really up to those frequencies and you will get something really smoother under BF3 !

    I'm playing with my config (sig) and BF3 runs very smoothly : 1440x900, Textures ultra, all other settings medium and filter anisotroping x4 !

    Need some feedbacks tho regarding these core and memory freq !

    X6813/16F2 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@860/1720 1v - m4 128go - 2x2@1333 hyundai
     
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    Where not talking about the same graphic card no ? Even if i know that the 560 is just a boosted 460.

    The problem is ( with every games , especially Battlefield and Crysis 2 ) the G74SX screen becomes SO BLURRY when you get under 1920*1080 ... Even 1600*900 looks so ugly. At native resolution , on Crysis 2 or BF3 , FPS are WAY lower than 1600*900 , a resolution we should be able to use , but not with that screen ... i may think about buying an external one , maybe lower resolution will look better.

    Btw , you're talking about 1700 in memory clock , seems that in my software , the end of the bar is at 1500 ...
     
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    Dont use msi afterburner or asus tweak clocks, but NVinspector :)
    I understand your issue with the screen, that's quite a shame. I'm not playing on the laptop screen because for gaming this is not the best.
    I have connected an external LCD display for better latency and frames.

    X6813/16F2 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@860/1720 1v - m4 128go - 2x2@1333 hyundai
     
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    I use nvidia inspector ;)

    Just goes to 815 , seems to have no change ingame. i'll see if i'll push harder ( i know i can do it , but now the Asus is my primary gaming setup , and the price i paid , it must last for a loooooong time , i don't wanna use it to quick by boosting it too much , having it burn in a year )
     
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    You will not bur anything as you're not operating on the voltage. Even if you do, gtx460/560m are rated 0,95-1v so you're still in the safe margin.
    Unless you got an unfortunate card with defective vrms you'll be perfectly fine.
    Also 815 is still a bit low, I guess 840-1670-1600 it's fine for you.
     
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    I have a g74sx-xn1 and I tryed the 900/1800/1600 clocks and played dead island the game crashed and froze up . Got an error saying display driver had an error and shut off on my task bar.. Why can some people with same system overclock that much and not have a problem?!
     
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    That is because every individual card is different. But keep in mind with the display driver crashing it could just be a driver issue. What driver version are you using? I still have mine OC'd to 900/1800/1600 and never have any problem in games, but with these new beta 285.38 drivers I actually get that error while running some adobe programs. Nothing wrong with my overclock, just some issue with the beta drivers.

    Try putting it back to stock and playing for a bit to see if its a bad overclock or a driver issue. If its a bad overclock try going back to like 875 core and see if thats stable.
     
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    I have the same beta drivers and I went back to factory gpu clocks and it didn't do it. As soon as I overclocked it crashed in about 10 minutes and the card was only at 65c least that's what msi afterburner said. Should I have those 2 bars linked or unlinked when I set it to 875? If unlinked what do I set the shader to? And what should I set memory to?



    Also I see some of you guys running the memory at 1250 and others at 1625 what is the difference between this why do some choose to not even touch it?
     
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    NVinspector as easy as Msi afterburner to overlock??
     
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    You guys will laugh on how easy NVidia Inspector is. You actually move the Shader slider and the core clock follows since they're locked just like in Afterburner.

    You have way, way higher option on adjusting the memory with Inspector. Watch your Memory and your bandwidth Gb/s with GPU-Z.

    i.e. At 1674 memory you'll have 80.4 Gb/s bandwidth. Which kinda helps keeping the FPS steady and no/less dips, ..constant FPS.

    I have went as far as 833/1753 memory with TW2 (9.1 volts.) I just don't like my GPU getting too hot (80*C), so I opted for 828/1728 memory with bandwidth of 82 Gb/s (76*C GPU temp after 3 hrs.).
     
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    I'm asking again , is it normal than i can't go more than 1500 ?

    [​IMG]
     
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    lol select "unlock max" on the top right corner and smile :)
     
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    Woo , nice :)

    DAMN I WANNA TRY BUT I'M SCARED.

    You're probably thinking i'm stupid x)
     
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    No man, i feel your pain. I know that feeling of being afraid when doing something new.

    Look at me: ive been into OC business with desktops since 6 years now, ive ranged from extreme air cooling to watercooling, but i was rather a noob in laptop OC'ing.

    Every laptop and every gpu released acts differently, while in desktops things are almost always the same (well excluding manual cpu overclocking in the old fashion way, when there was just a bios with a myriad of settings, getting my E8400 up to 4,3ghz was not easy, and totally AT AIR!).

    Ive began to look into vbios modding/overvoltage/ocing laptops starting with my m860tu which is still going strong, equipped with a vbios hand crafted fx3700m.

    Anyway back on topic, raise your memory to the current limit (1500) and see if it is stable. If it is, simply click on Unlock Max and keep doing 50mhz steps increase and do some more tests.

    By tests, if you want to speed up the process, everytime you want to game for a long session just oc the memory with additional 50mhz. If your favorite game still stable after some hours, raise a bit more, until the driver crashes, or artifacts (most likely).

    I guess youll be fine at 1500-1550 range, that will give you a niiiice boost in bandwitdth and performance.
     
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    Thanks for your advices ;)

    I read a few time ago that overclocking was not that dangerous , but while you're testing for the stability / artifacts , you can break your card when thoses artifacts are coming , it may be to late. May be something wrong , but i was a bit scared. :)
     
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    Well artifacts technically are caused by the corrupt data stored in the VRAM, which happens when the clocks reach their max potential coupled with the physical limitations of the chips itself.
    As long as the drivers recover or you shutdown the system when it happens you'll be fine.
    Issues of a long term damage is when you repeatedly hammer the VRAM chips with extreme voltages or clocks to gain performance when OCing.
    Long story short, just push it but stay on the conservative state of things.
    Tbh I've seen people's pushing their VRAM beyond 1700mhz which is way above the physical limit of the VRAM chips on the gpu, at least on gtx460m.
    I can go above 1620 as an example but since I'm core limited to 835 I see no point of having 80gbs bandwidth with that core clock.
    For 20/20.1 pixel fillrate,76.5/77gbs is more than enough.

    Remember that ocing is all about balance: pixel fillrate needs to be feed by a good bandwidth. Too much bandwidth actually makes performance worse, same happens with high core clocks with low bandwidth.
    I'd say for 825-30-35 core clock 1600/1650 VRAM clocks is the sweet spot. Badically is the same performance as 850-870 @ 1450-1500.
     
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    Really interesting @Kingpinzero it sounds you know a lot about o/c !

    I finally pushed my gtx460m into its limits that means : 878/1756 (core/shader) and 1680 memory max temp is 77 after 3dmark 2011, BF3...

    What do you think about this o/c ?
    I also performed 860/1720/1720 but the temp was rising to 82 degrees and I was startn sweating lol

    That looks good ?
     
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    Yep you're in thermal range, but limit those clocks for benchmarking, as I stated 1650 should be crash-proof in gaming sessions.
     
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    Crazy how the tempeture rises when I push the memory clock to 1720 instead of 1680, +5 degrees !

    Anyway, 3dmark2006 gives 14606 and 3dmark2011 2411 which is not too bad for gtx460+i5 - will get the 2820qm qs soon tho !

    MSI Barebone 16F2 - i5-2410m - GTX460m@878/1680 - M4 128go - 4go@1333
     
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    I'm finally decided to try , but i don't want to burn anything so i'm asking again.

    When you're talking about values like XXXX / XXXX / XXXX , it's GPU Clock / Memory Clock / Shader Clock right ? In this order ?

    So , taking my last screenshot , i'm already at 1630 as a shader clock ? Is it too much ? Many people here are using 1600 as a max no ? or am i wrong ? Why do only that very last value seem to change the GPU Clock ?

    I tried to understand the last post , but it seems like something is missing to me. Maybe because of the " words " use , Vram and Core are which values in Nvidia inspector ?

    Sorry if it feels noobish :/
     
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    Gpu/shader/memory

    The Gpu clock and shader clocks are usually locked by default, so the shader will be double the gpu clock unless you unlock it.

    Currently at 900gpu, 1800 shader and 1625 memory with no problems. Set up a profile in MSI afterburner so that in 2d mode it goes back to stock and only overclocks when im playing games.
     
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    Thanks !

    So first Try here ( soft ) : 850 GPU / 1700 Shaders / 1500 Memory : +1K2 Boost on 3DMark 2006 ( 16200 kinda ) , and i went from P9200 on Vantage to P10100 :D
     
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    The tdr issue has been fixed in the next driver release, at last is what ManuelG said over nvidia forums. There should be other new nifty features as well like a frame limiter, can't wait!
     
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    On the 280 drivers and at 900/1800/1625, I get in the 2600's in 3DMark11:
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,ASUSTeK Computer Inc. G74Sx score: P2624 3DMarks
     
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    3 is the golden number for benchmarks.
    Always run tests 3 times.
     
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    Hey guys, im very new to overclocking and ive spent the last few hours reading fourms and trying to figure things out. i want to get the most out of my GTX 560M 3GB card safely. I just got BF3 and am only getting like 27 FPS on High Settings. so i want to overclock my GPU to get more fps for smoother gameplay without sacrificing visuals. ok so i have MSI Afterburner and put in 920/1840/1625 and when i booted up BF3 i had way worse visuals then at the standard 775/1550/1250. so how is that possible? to have worse graphics then before...can someone lend me a hand with this whole overclocking thing please

    EDIT:
    i7 2630QM
    GTX 560M 3GB
    16GB RAM

    LASTEST:
    ok so i tryed restarting my laptop after i changed it to 900/1800/1600 and then booted up BF3 and i gained fps just like i wanted!! but now im wondering if can push it even more...hmmm
    I got P2616 and according to MSI Afterburner i got 55degrees max while running the benchmark.
    you think i can squeeze out more for BF3? or play it safe and keep 900/1800/1600..
     
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