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    GSOD fix for G73 Owners - vBIOS update Guide

    Discussion in 'ASUS Gaming Notebook Forum' started by dkillone, May 9, 2010.

  1. ziddy123

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    If read Xeven's post he already experimented with that. This isn't Alienware's vBios modified for Asus, this is Asus vBios modified. The only ones who can make it like Alienware are Asus. Problem is at different clocks, the PowerPlay becomes broken.

    But RBE is available to everyone to use. Why don't you downclock like Alienware vbios: 100/150?
     
  2. Mandrake

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    So in the end what was special about the clevo vbios that allowed the G73 to install other drivers without BSOD?
     
  3. luca4s

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    thanks for your answer ;)
    sorry but i haven't this laptop right now :p
    In my country Asus sell this laptop only after an order .
    I have to wait until the end of this month.
    I read the minimum downclock reached is 300/300 for asus vbios, it's very good also 200/500.

    yes but also with modified asus vbios (a little overclock and you can find a better stability)
     
  4. Chastity

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    Clevo didn't have Asus techs touch it. :twitchy:
     
  5. ziddy123

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    BTW the Xeven v2 and bios I'm using are Asus vBios not Clevo.
     
  6. maev

    maev Notebook Guru

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    max 91 celsius is rather high GPU temp under the load?
     
  7. DCx

    DCx Banned!

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    No. And temperatures range greatly due to chip composition, elevation, ambient temperature and windows/fans settings.
     
  8. maev

    maev Notebook Guru

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    I used ziddy's bios (voltage modified xeven one) and I don't have overdrive enabled.

    Look at the screen below:

    [​IMG]

    Everything is blanked out, any ideas how to fix this?

    edit:

    GPU-Z went mad o_O:

    [​IMG]
     
  9. aramis109

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    Click the Key/lock button.
     
  10. Tim4

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    Just press button with key picture and agree to unlock overdrive feature.And there you go.Good luck!
     
  11. maev

    maev Notebook Guru

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    Thanks, made it working now. But still GSOD's, no matter what. Back to asus stock bios and asus april drivers :-( The one and only stable solution for my G73JH.
     
  12. ziddy123

    ziddy123 Notebook Virtuoso

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    For best results I've found

    Catalyst AI set to Advanced

    OverDrive GPU Clock 800 and Memory 900.

    I haven't noticed any performance loss but the temps are great. And better performance than 700/1000. Crysis everything High, temperatures were around 79-81C for MemIO and around 71C for Core.
    - Isn't that awesome? And the framerate average was still 34.
     
  13. Thanatospy

    Thanatospy Notebook Consultant

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    have you try futuremark 2006 or kinda bench tool with the stock clock vs 800/900 ziddy? im just curious of what is a "best results", my machine is very stable at stock speeds thank god, im a little afraid to test i got a bad experience using overdrive tool on a laptop amd video card and in my country we dont have asus support :( so a dead laptop means like 3 months without a pc hehehe
     
  14. streetlife

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    ok guys... am completely lost after flashing on ziddy's modified vBios... i thought i would be able to set the mhz over overdrive for particular profiles like - battery saver - go on 200/200 , high performance, go on 800/1100... however i do something wrong or dont know how to set it up...

    so am using 3 separate profiles in AMD GPU clock tool like - default, overclocked, underclocked, and swith them up manually as i need...

    as default with ziddy vBIos it goes like this

    as well as, when i am running on entertainment/battery saver, clocks are 200/500.... then when i switch to high performance, it goes on 700/100 ... HOWEVER if i want to have it on 800/1100, what to do?? So i simply ran overclock icon of AMD GPU clock tool... played etc... but later, when i want to go back for example on battery saver ( at 200/500 ) i am not able, the mhz are still 800/1100 and i need to switch it then mannualy again...

    so in other word, as soon as you modify something in AMD GPU clock tool, its the highest in the rank program, it means the values will override everything, even ATI ovveride from CCC...

    So my question is...

    Am i able, without using AMD Clock tool... to like, set battery saver mode, run on 200/200, ,set entertaiment and run on 600/800 , and 800/1100 for high performance only with ATI OVerdrive tool?
     
  15. luca4s

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    every ati card have different stable clocks. just try it with amd gpu tool and find which are best for your card.
    Personally i don't like this "jump". I prefer use 2 different OS: one in high performance and the other one in power saving mode.
     
  16. Tim4

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    Nope you cant. Best you can do using overdrive is to set you clocks 800/1100 and use it as high performance. On entertainment you will still have 200/500 thats all you can do.
     
  17. streetlife

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    thx, nevertheless, i got 2 GSODs today ... after 2 months... on ziddy's vBIOS... :( :( played resident evil 5 DX10 , after 30mins stripes...

    the first
     
  18. nikolai090

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    Try overclocking your card to 800/1100 or 705/1100, thats what Chastity posted to be stable for those who have GSODs on the 10.5 cats
     
  19. ziddy123

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    For me, I tested today, VGA out isn't working. HDMI does.
     
  20. aramis109

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    Yeah not end of the world but I'd prefer it to be working. Hopefully this is a stopgap until ASUS comes out with an official one.
     
  21. PulsatingQuasar

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    The only way to get a vBIOS update is if a lot of people directly complain to Asus that their solution isn't good enough.

    I doubt they read these forums.
     
  22. luca4s

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    in this forum i saw Asus Customer Care, i have in my buddy list!
    but maybe he answer rarely, hard to find :D
    but isn't a great problem if u using asus vga driver, maybe that the reason why asus didn't do nothing about that.
     
  23. 07torchgt

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    ok, ive read this whole thread,

    i seem to be a lucky one that has never had a GSOD, if you need a copy of my vbios just let me know... i have tried every release of the drivers and never had a problem... same with benching using amd gpu clock tool... if there is anything i can do to help just let me know...

    on top of that, other than enabling overdrive i dont see a need for me to reflash to xeven's v2... i dont mind tinkering especially to help but would there be any advantage to using his over the stock in my case?
     
  24. ziddy123

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    You can undervolt with Xeven's V2. I tried to undervolt the default Asus vBios and the setting didn't stick.

    .95 to .90v for battery mode is very nice. Increases battery life a little bit more.
     
  25. 07torchgt

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    is that done in overdrive?
     
  26. ziddy123

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    No that is done through RBE editor.

    OverDrice is ATi's automatic overclocking. Meaning the GPU is not permanently overclocked. It stays 700/1000. But when 3D is being used, the GPU overclocks automatically to whatever setting you wanted.

    It's very awesome.
     
  27. Chyros

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    Can I have a copy of your vBIOS? I didn't know I have GSOD until I've played Dragon Age on 10.5. GSOD under 2 mins. But I don't experience this on other games though.
     
  28. 07torchgt

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    sure but i can't seem to get RBE to backup my vBios for some reason


    any other means?
     
  29. ziddy123

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    ahhh

    got it

    attached here if anyone wants to try it...
     

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  31. Kalim

    Kalim Ceiling Cat Is Watching U

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    Has anyone done a binary comparison between the same version of the vBIOS from those that have had issues against the vBIOS of those who don't have issues? If they're a binary match, then there would be no point updating the vBIOS. However, if they claim to be the same version and there's a difference, well, that would be interesting.
     
  32. Chyros

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    Hmmm... Your vBIOS was dated 01/04/2010 but I've seen shipped G73s earlier than that. Could it be they have earlier versions of vBIOS? Going to compare my vBIOS from yours tomorrow early.

    Thanks for your vBIOS.
     
  33. Chastity

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    I believe Xeven checked that already with someone having no issues and found them to be bit identical. But please feel free to check! You never know.
     
  34. Chyros

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    Can I also have your version of vBIOS? Just going to compare. Thanks in advance.
     
  35. Chastity

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    I'm using Xeven's v2 vBIOS
     
  36. <MarkS>

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    Hmmm...really? Where?

    Pre-orders were taken, but shipped? Don't think so.

    (unless that's April not January...)
     
  37. 07torchgt

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    i have an A1 not an A2. the A1's shipped later so there is a good chance I might have something different
     
  38. DRevan

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    Mine is dated 01/07/2010 and it gives GSOD with Catalyst 10.5 in L4D2. :(

    wonder if they changed something else besides the date ... maybe they fixed something but also made the GSOD bug to appear? Like in World of Warcraft...they fix something in a patch but they make 2 new bugs :)
     
  39. Chyros

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    @07torchgt
    After binary comparing, we have identical VBIOS and VBIOS Date. Tried yours so I still experience GSOD on Dragon Age within 2 mins under ATI 10.5 drivers. However, it seems that GSOD disappeared on the new ATI 10.6 drivers. Anyone with GSOD issue willing to try ATI 10.6 reference drivers?
     
  40. ziddy123

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    I have said this so many times. I DO NOT THINK THIS IS A ASUS ISSUE.

    I truly believe this is an ATi issue. ATi has their HD5870s manufactured by TSMC who have reported numerous problems with their 40nm architecture.

    ATi I do not think they stress or test the chips thoroughly enough before shipping them to Asus.

    I'VE SAID THIS MANY TIMES. STOP WASTING TIME IF YOU HAVE GSOD. GET A REPLACEMENT, THIS IS NOT VBIOS OR DRIVER ISSUE, THIS IS HARDWARE.
     
  41. DRevan

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    Tried it with my original vBIOS, GSOD like with 10.5.
    Could you please try the WEI score? If it finishes without GSOD with this BIOS+10.6, than it really made a difference.
     
  42. Chyros

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    What game and how long before it happened?
     
  43. DRevan

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    Easiest to check with Windows Experience Index. If you can run it without GSOD, you are home free.
    (The game was Left 4 Dead 2 and it took about 1,5 min after the level loaded)
     
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    I see, I don't experience GSOD on any of that. WEI runs perfectly and 15 mins of L4D (Steam version) no GSOD. Anything else I can test that can trigger GSOD?
     
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    hmm, this is quite interesting.
     
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    So eager to test GSOD? well I for one have not yet recieved it, chances are you don't have it too.
     
  47. maev

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    WEI gsod's for me almost immediately for 10.5 and 10.6 mobility drivers.
     
  48. Chyros

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    Indeed. GSOD happens 100% on Dragon Age at Catalyst 10.5. It's not happening anymore on 10.6.

    Btw, did you restart after upgrading to 10.6? Because I believe the new drivers will only load after restart. ASUS' ATI 9.12 doesn't cause any GSOD and upgrading to 10.5 won't cause either until I restart the Windows 7 so I believe 10.5 drivers has not loaded until a Windows restart. Prolly same case on upgrading to 10.6.

    I have it on 10.5. On 10.6, It's quite strange that I'm not experiencing it anymore.
     
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    Hmmm, It's really strange that 10.6 doesn't cause any GSOD for me. This is exactly what I did...

    1. Using Xeven's TARD vBIOS V2 on 10.5 so no GSOD at all.
    2. Found out that there's new ATI Catalyst Mobility 10.6 drivers so right before upgrading to it, I flashed back my original G73 vBIOS (which is identical to 07torchgt. vBIOS dated 01/04/2010, G73JH-A1).
    3. Tried Dragon Age (with 10.5, and original vBIOS), GSOD under 2 mins.
    4. Upgraded from 10.5 to 10.6 and restarted my Windows.
    5. Ran Dragon Age for more than 30 mins and no GSOD. Tried DRevan's suggestions on WEI and L4D4, no GSOD as well.
    6. Double-checked my vBIOS by dumping current and reflashing my original vBIOS. Double-checked also my ATI Catalyst version and it says 10.6.
     
  50. DRevan

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    Yes I restarted. Tried 10.5 and 10.6 WEI GSOD after a few seconds, but according to the vBIOS date, I don't have the same BIOS...will try this older one, maybe they screwed up something in the new one.


    p.s.: Has any1 else tried "fixing" earlier a GSOD VGA with a non-GSOD vBIOS or this is actually the first time?

    edit: oh, so you are using your own default vBIOS?
     
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